If you are threatened by CRT ...

[BoyNextDoor]

It's Marxism with a racism chaser.

Unsurprising you associate it with Marx (despite Marx offering no critical assessment of race). Just another boogeyman you do not understand and so you fear it.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Unsurprising you associate it with Marx (despite Marx offering no critical assessment of race). Just another boogeyman you do not understand and so you fear it.

It take the Marxist paradigm of oppressor-victim and substitutes vulgar ideas of race for Karl's vulgar ideas about economics. It's been that way since Gramsci was cooling his heels in prison, wondering why the masses hadn't revolted yet and how could the communists shift their message to better undermine harmony and "pour the sweet milk of concord into Hell." Race and culture, of course.

 

[zipman]

If you are threatened by CRT then you do not understand what CRT is.

First post was /thread.

 

[dan_c00000]

Here's the specific proposal from this low-wattage racist mountebank:

"The [Department of Anti-Racism] would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won’t yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas. The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas."

But don't worry, this unaccountable gang would be staffed with "experts" like - wait for it! - Ibram X. Kendi. I'm sure you're shocked.

You used literally the second sentence of the link I sent you! Good job! You didn't read the title of the article where it says Constitutional Amendment though I see. Because if you did you would have owned yourself so hard you're head would have fallen off your shoulders.

Since Kendi is recommending a Constitutional Amendment it would be subject to the Supreme Court. Just like all the other Amendments are. Also, it would have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states and it even needs 2/3 of all of Congress to even propose the Amendment (both of which are extremely unlikely to happen). So there's two major forms of accountability there.

Also, as a department of the federal government it would be subject to oversight committees of Congress. For example, the Department of Homeland Security is overseen by the United States House Committee on Homeland Security.

You have literally just admitted to not knowing how the Constitution or the federal government works. So I have to ask: are you really that fucking stupid or just racist?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Will you provide the exact quote from Kendi saying that he wants racial dictatorship?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You used literally the second sentence of the link I sent you! Good job! You didn't read the title of the article where it says Constitutional Amendment though I see. Because if you did you would have owned yourself so hard you're head would have fallen off your shoulders.

Since Kendi is recommending a Constitutional Amendment it would be subject to the Supreme Court. Just like all the other Amendments are. Also, it would have to be ratified by 2/3rds of the states (which is extremely unlikely to happen). So there's two major forms of accountability there.

Also, as a department of the federal government it would be subject to oversight committees of Congress. For example, the Department of Homeland Security is overseen by the United States House Committee on Homeland Security.

You have literally just admitted to not knowing how the Constitution or the federal government works. So I have to ask: are you really that fucking stupid or just racist?

LOL, okay, let's review:

* SCOTUS has no role in the drafting or ratification of Amendments. Amendments are, by definition, Constitutional because they become part of the Constitution. And the SCOTUS would be subject to this department, too, not a check on it.

* Amendments are ratified by 3/4 of states, not 2/3.

* The department Kendi posits would not be part of the Executive, since all departments in the Executive are subject to the Executive, i.e. the President. This department would not be, as evidenced by the fact that it would be overseeing the President to make sure he doesn't do anything that disturbs Kendi's idea of equity. Ditto for Congress...this department will be the final arbiter of whether Congress's acts are put into force. This department is, essentially, a Fourth Branch and superior to all other branches...and it's run by unelected "experts" like Kendi.

It's a dictatorship.

Other than that, you're spot on...LMAO.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

I posted it before you even asked for it.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I posted it before you even asked for it.

Post it again, for the people in the back seats.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Post it again, for the people in the back seats.

"The [Department of Anti-Racism] would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won’t yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas. The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas."

 

[IrezumiKiss]

"The [Department of Anti-Racism] would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won’t yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas. The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas."

What about this is a "dictatorship?"

 

[Bud_Spencer]

What about this is a "dictatorship?"

What do you call an unelected body that can veto or implement any policy it chooses at any level?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

I posted it before you even asked for it.

You've been shitpisting for 3 days straight. It's kinda hard to find the peanut in those turds.

"The [Department of Anti-Racism] would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won’t yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas. The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas."

Dictatorship fail.

Do you have a problem with racists being slapped around for their racist policies?

It's been fun making you blow yourself up the past few days but it's become boring so feel free to post more lies and bullshit without fear of being exposed.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You've been shitpisting for 3 days straight. It's kinda hard to find the peanut in those turds.



Dictatorship fail.

It's been fun making you blow yourself up the past few days but it's become boring so feel free to post more lies and bullshit without fear of being exposed.

So you see no problem in an unelected body of "experts" policing all federal, state and local governments, not to mention private entities, for anything it doesn't like?

Tell me, Luke, what is the difference between a dictatorship, a junta, and this?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

So you see no problem in an unelected body of "experts" policing all federal, state and local governments, not to mention private entities, for anything it doesn't like?

Tell me, Luke, what is the difference between a dictatorship, a junta, and this?

Do you have a problem with racists being slapped around for their racist policies?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

It take the Marxist paradigm of oppressor-victim and substitutes vulgar ideas of race for Karl's vulgar ideas about economics. It's been that way since Gramsci was cooling his heels in prison, wondering why the masses hadn't revolted yet and how could the communists shift their message to better undermine harmony and "pour the sweet milk of concord into Hell." Race and culture, of course.

You really are all over the place, aren't you. Marx and CRT not comparable in the sense you are trying to compare them. In fact I believe the biggest negative critique of Marx on the left to date is its failure to address race, and the failure of its present adherents to "adequately" incorporate race into the paradigm.

As for CRT - you seem to mistake having an assessment and contemplation of history and how it shaped and shapes current events and their social consequences with an intent that you yourself be persecuted.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

What do you call an unelected body that can veto or implement any policy it chooses at any level?

Where in that are people unelected? If someone is appointed to a level of governance then they're supposed to have been vetted for experience. Then they hire people who go through the same process.

This is no shadow chamber run by Masons funded by George Soros. I know CRT and everything surrounding it is making you pee your pants, but there's nothing going on that's gonna have men in black burst into your home in the middle of the night and body bag you into a White People Re-education Camp.

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[Bud_Spencer]

Do you have a problem with racists being slapped around for their racist policies?

I have a problem with unelected bodies having plenary power over elected officials. That's a real threat to democracy, not the phony shit the Dems are ginning up.

And given the list of things that are racist these days (knitting, math, pets, classical music, porn, etc.) there's not much these "experts" won't be vetoing.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Where in that are people unelected? If someone is appointed to a level of governance then they're supposed to have been vetted for experience. Then they hire people who go through the same process.

This is no shadow chamber run by Masons funded by George Soros. I know CRT and everything surrounding it is making you pee your pants, but there's nothing going on that's gonna have men in black burst into your home in the middle of the night and body bag you into a White People Re-education Camp.

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Well, we know they aren't appointed by the Executive, no? And how do we ensure these are "experts" in the position? Kendi doesn't say, but it surely isn't through election.

And it's not hard to see constitutional crises arising on an almost daily basis. Kendi is a complete moron on top of being a moral pygmy. Not even mentioning the inevitable corruption of this junta.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

I have a problem with unelected bodies having plenary power over elected officials. That's a real threat to democracy, not the phony shit the Dems are ginning up.

Which officials are "unelected" in your scenario?

And given the list of things that are racist these days (knitting, math, pets, classical music, porn, etc.) there's not much these "experts" won't be vetoing.

Ah, histrionics is the inbred breeding ground of desperation.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Which officials are "unelected" in your scenario?


Ah, histrionics is the inbred breeding ground of desperation.

Not my histrionics, nancy-boy, but the Left's. Each and every one of those things has been declared racist by the Left. Your pals. And that's a tiny portion of the things the lunatics have determined oppress BIPOCs.

All of these people on the DoA are unelected. Kendi doesn't say, but it's pretty clear he has a certain type of person in mind, not someone you can trust the racist populace to elect, right? I'd bet this low-wattage Himmler would put professors or other reliably insane people in charge of selecting this junta.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Here is a passage from Kemdi. There is a lot to unpack here:

The racist champions of racist discrimination engineered to maintain racial inequities before the 1960s are now the racist opponents of antiracist discrimination engineered to dismantle those racial inequities. The most threatening racist movement is not the alt right’s unlikely drive for a White ethnostate but the regular American’s drive for a “race-neutral” one. The construct of race neutrality actually feeds White nationalist victimhood by positing the notion that any policy protecting or advancing non-White Americans toward equity is “reverse discrimination.

That is how racist power can call affirmative action policies that succeed in reducing racial inequities “race conscious” and standardized tests that produce racial inequities “race neutral.” That is how they can blame the behavior of entire racial groups for the inequities between different racial groups and still say their ideas are “not racist.” But there is no such thing as a not-racist idea, only racist ideas and antiracist ideas.

Are "mainstream" advocates of race neutrality a bigger racist threat than those that advocate a White ethnostate?

 

[WillJ8787]

Wait, are you saying that this "theory" can't be tested? That it's an article of faith, dependent on no evidence at all?

And this isn't a religion...how?

Nope, BoBo, not saying that.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You really are all over the place, aren't you. Marx and CRT not comparable in the sense you are trying to compare them. In fact I believe the biggest negative critique of Marx on the left to date is its failure to address race, and the failure of its present adherents to "adequately" incorporate race into the paradigm.

As for CRT - you seem to mistake having an assessment and contemplation of history and how it shaped and shapes current events and their social consequences with an intent that you yourself be persecuted.

I'm quite focused. Gramsci noted Marx's omission a century ago, and that's when he decided to attack the culture, partly through race. The Frankfurt School just continued the project.

CRT assumes the conclusion. It doesn't even attempt to prove its central dogma. It tells us to take it as an article of faith. Are you dressed for church?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Nope, BoBo, not saying that.

CRT says that. Any questioning of CRT is met with the claim that the questioner is racist.

I've never seen that with any other, real, theory, like quantum superposition. Maybe this isn't really a science at all, but a religion.

 

[dan_c00000]

* Amendments are ratified by 3/4 of states, not 2/3.

You're right it's 3/4 quarters of the states but 2/3 of Congress is needed to propose the Amendment in the first place.

Either way it absolutely destroys your point because there's now 2 forms of oversight it has to go through before even getting passed.

* The department Kendi posits would not be part of the Executive, since all departments in the Executive are subject to the Executive, i.e. the President.

At no point in Kendi's post does he say any of that. You simply made it all up. The word president, executive, or Congress does not appear in his post. You're just assuming that all three branches of government would allow this to happen.

Also, what Kendi is describing is something more akin to an independent agency. In other words something like Amtrak, based on your bullshit, would be considered dictatorial.

So again, are you that fucking stupid or that fucking racist?