United Healthcare (MN) to deny patients.in Emergency Room

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I guess the board members And CEO's are not making enough money.

Insurers deciding your health matters as opposed to doctors.... privatized healthcare always means large segments of the population will be denied healthcare for "profit" reasons.

Healthcare is a human right.
Having National Healthcare will restore the US to great Country status.
 
How Original Medicare covers emergency room costs

Medicare Part B (medical insurance) generally covers emergency room visits. You will be generally covered if you have an injury, a sudden illness, or an illness that quickly gets much worse. If you make an emergency room visit for a non-emergency, you may not be covered.

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Bonus...

At least 30% of emergency room visits in the US are considered non-urgent, according to one compilation of research published in the National Institutes of Health.

The problem is these unnecessary emergency room visits steal resources away from patients who are in life threatening predicaments and drive healthcare costs up — for patients and EM departments — even further.

If emergency departments are able to reduce their number of non-urgent emergency room visits, there’s an estimated cost savings of $4.4 billion per year.
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This is one of the holes in our supposedly great health care system. Emergency room care is expensive, it costs a ton more than going to an urgent care or a regular doctor. Not to mention that treating people with non emergency needs can delay treatment for those with life threatening issues.

The problem here is people because their kid has a sore throat or they have an ache or pain, go to the er rather than going to a regular doctor or an urgent care place (these days, urgent care places are often 24 hours a day) This is a big problem with older people, they will do it for every ache and pain, it is why medicare B says for emergency issues only. The hospital is not going to weed those patients out, they will treat them and the insurer gets a huge bill (if it is a managed care network, it will be a negotiated rate, but it is still a lot more than a dr's office).

I am no fan of health insurance company, but they do have a point, people shouldn't be running to the ER for these kind of things, they should be going to a doctor or UC place.

Note this isn't the same thing as people going to an ER because they don't have insurance, that is another kettle of fish, it is what the idiot GOP promotes as people without health insurance can always get treated at an er so why do we need ACA or the like *grrr*
 
I guess the board members And CEO's are not making enough money.

So start an insurance that offers Champaign HC at rock bottom prices! :)

Insurers deciding your health matters as opposed to doctors.... privatized healthcare always means large segments of the population will be denied healthcare for "profit" reasons.

Somebody has to PAY.

Shit cost money.

Healthcare is a human right.
Having National Healthcare will restore the US to great Country status.

No, it's not, HC is in fact a service industry. Because someone has to PAY.

The only thing we need to do to restore the US would be to get the government out of all the shit it's managed to fuck up for everyone....like HC.
 
So start an insurance that offers Champaign HC at rock bottom prices! :)

Somebody has to PAY.

Shit cost money.

No, it's not, HC is in fact a service industry. Because someone has to PAY.

The only thing we need to do to restore the US would be to get the government out of all the shit it's managed to fuck up for everyone....like HC.

Doesn't cost YOU money, Welfare boy. You don't pay one fucking dime out of pocket for your health care, but you routinely call for your fainting couch over corporations forfeiting profit from other people. Y'know, the ole "freebies for me, but not for thee!" horseshit that you peddle.
 
Doesn't cost YOU money, Welfare boy. You don't pay one fucking dime out of pocket for your health care, but you routinely call for your fainting couch over corporations forfeiting profit from other people. Y'know, the ole "freebies for me, but not for thee!" horseshit that you peddle.

Why must you lie about absolutely everything Rob??

It does cost me, it's just really cheap, and I don't get any welfare or freebies.

Your lies are not horse shit that I peddle Rob.
 
Health care is one thing, and health insurance is quite another. Single-payer would nationalize the latter, not the former.

No, it's not, it's a service people voluntarily engage in.

1) So what? Nationalization is a No-Go...this isn't Soviet States of America.

2) It effectively does, control the money control the industry.
 
Except the freedom of commerce.....kinda a biggie to us liberal types.

I once attended a science-fiction WorldCon in Toronto. At a panel discussion, I forget on what topic, I asked, "Is there any downside to the Canadian health care system?" All the panelists said in turn, "No," "No, "No," without further comment, and with an air of faint surprise at the question. Several hundred people were in the room, a big room, and nobody dissented. Even in the U.S., I expect you'll have to look hard to find anybody without money invested in them who really cares about the "freedom of commerce" of health-insurance companies (which they do have in Canada, they just play a far less important role than here).
 
Even in the U.S., I expect you'll have to look hard to find anybody without money invested in them who really cares about the "freedom of commerce"

Most people don't think about any of these things.

Just because you don't like a certain service doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to engage in it. Just like with drug dealers, abortion clinics, sex clubs/workers or whatever...if you don't like what they're doing don't patron them.

But if there is no harm or eminent threat involved here let consenting adults be.

I would like to see an offer that gives max freedom for everyone to get their way.

The federal government should create a legal frame work/process for states that WANT to join and pool their resources to provide a public HC option to their residents. The ​States that don't? Can do their own thing, or leave and do their own thing.

There is no rational reason we can't use our system and structure to get the majority of people in the majority of states what they want. There is no need to try and force 1 size fits all 50 states on such divided issues than just to rub the other sides nose in it and pick a fight. That's just pure antagonism.
 
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Most people don't think about why it is they get to wake up in suburbia, hop in their SUV and go make a middle class living.

It is freedom of commerce that allows that.

Just because you don't like a certain service doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to engage in it.

Wage slaves for sure don't...they just do their 9-5 and collect their check/bennies....then vote for "free" shit without thinking about what that really means.

I would like to see an offer that gives max freedom for everyone to get their way.

The federal government should create a legal frame work/process for states that WANT to join and pool their resources to provide a public HC option to their residents.

The ​States that don't? Can do their own thing, or leave and do their own thing. ​

There is no rational reason we can't use our system and structure to get the majority of people in the majority of states what they want.

here is no need to try and force 1 size fits all 50 states on such divided issues than just to rub the other sides nose in it and pick a fight. That's just pure antagonism and it's going to take some epic leadership to overcome the current levels of it in DC.

Wow...I coherent line of thought for once....it only took about 10,000 shit posts.

Bravo👏
 
As far as I know, doctors do not have the right to refuse treatment to a patient. To do this, they took the Hippocratic oath. Medical care is not a whim of a person, without which he can do without. Without the necessary medical care, a person can die. It's not even always about death. It's just about getting qualified help, whether it's psychological or physical.
We also have the right to choose the doctor or the hospital that we want. If we don't like how doctors work in a public hospital, we can contact a private one. You need to know your rights. It can save your life.

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Source:
https://www.fox9.com/news/unitedhea...y-coverage-for-er-visits-deemed-non-emergency

I guess the board members And CEO's are not making enough money.

Insurers deciding your health matters as opposed to doctors.... privatized healthcare always means large segments of the population will be denied healthcare for "profit" reasons.

Healthcare is a human right.
Having National Healthcare will restore the US to great Country status.

This is one of the holes in our supposedly great health care system. Emergency room care is expensive, it costs a ton more than going to an urgent care or a regular doctor. Not to mention that treating people with non emergency needs can delay treatment for those with life threatening issues.

The problem here is people because their kid has a sore throat or they have an ache or pain, go to the er rather than going to a regular doctor or an urgent care place (these days, urgent care places are often 24 hours a day) This is a big problem with older people, they will do it for every ache and pain, it is why medicare B says for emergency issues only. The hospital is not going to weed those patients out, they will treat them and the insurer gets a huge bill (if it is a managed care network, it will be a negotiated rate, but it is still a lot more than a dr's office).

I am no fan of health insurance company, but they do have a point, people shouldn't be running to the ER for these kind of things, they should be going to a doctor or UC place.

Note this isn't the same thing as people going to an ER because they don't have insurance, that is another kettle of fish, it is what the idiot GOP promotes as people without health insurance can always get treated at an er so why do we need ACA or the like *grrr*

Health care is one thing, and health insurance is quite another. Single-payer would nationalize the latter, not the former.

The left has told us for years about the superiority of the Cuban medical system. I'd be willing to help them all move there to avail themselves of it.
 
When will they start denying benefits to the unvaccinated for Covid related illnesses?
 
When will they start denying benefits to the unvaccinated for Covid related illnesses?
was wondering this the other day, and it may be a case of waiting for the fda regular use approval to come into force--within 6 months, most likely. since it's still labeled under 'emergency authorization', it may be a legal technicality that they can't refuse the unvaxxed?
 
So, Will, if and when we get single payer, are you saying no one will be turned away at the ER? So what incentive is there not to go to the ER?
 
When will they start denying benefits to the unvaccinated for Covid related illnesses?

was wondering this the other day, and it may be a case of waiting for the fda regular use approval to come into force--within 6 months, most likely. since it's still labeled under 'emergency authorization', it may be a legal technicality that they can't refuse the unvaxxed?

OH look...the same control freaks who wish so desperately to control all aspects your HC are fantasizing about weaponizing that control against you.

This is why I'm anti-UHC.
 
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So, Will, if and when we get single payer, are you saying no one will be turned away at the ER? So what incentive is there not to go to the ER?
You're changing the topic.

We're talking about people who routinely use the emergency room for non-emergency needs.

The USA is gradually shifting away from that model of care, and insurance companies have been leading the charge (higher co-pays for emergency room visits, etc).

The rise in telemedicine, "urgent care clinics" and onsite doc-in-the-box at larger pharmacies are reshaping medicine. Overall, it's a good thing.

And single payer doesn't have jack shit to do with any of that.

No one is ever turned away at emergency rooms now. Ronald Reagan signed that into law decades ago.
 
Ummm...that's been changing

Ummm WTF you talking about?

If you think you have some inside knowledge of changes in Canada, please post them, so I can refute your dumb ass, just keep your stupidity to yourself...you have a weak enough grasp of reality in your own country...*chuckles*
 
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This all costs a lot, and what should I do if I have no money and need urgent medical help? It's very frustrating:( My mom recently had a very critical and complicated surgery that we had to raise money for. After that, we bought a lot of medicine and foods to eat after surgery to promote healing. It all took quite a bit of money, and I don't know what I'm going to do if she suddenly gets sick. I don't know where I can get that much money for an ER doctor to help me. Why don't I have a friend who works as a doctor? It would have been so much easier for me to live this life.
 
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