Biden Agenda Stalled - Clock Running Out

[BabyBoomer50s]

Good news. Biden’s infrastructure bill, which would include major tax hikes and wasteful spending is stalled in the Senate with time running out. A more reasonable package is likely, focused on traditional infrastructure projects such as airports, roads and bridges, without the tax hikes and excessive spending on social programs, subsidies for “green energy” and other things. Moreover, the bill that would entail a federal takeover of elections is all but dead, and the filibuster remains intact.

The GOP and centrist Democrats like Manchin and Sinema just need to run out the clock. By August, the window for radical legislation the far left was hoping for will be closed and the midterm election season will be upon us. https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...and-politics-bd9b5c85f32e2b094387c81098319a53

 

[pecksniff]

How is the "clock running out"? What actually changes in August?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

How is the "clock running out"? What actually changes in August?

August recess, followed by the 2022 campaign season kicking into high gear.

 

[pecksniff]

August recess, followed by the 2022 campaign season kicking into high gear.

There's no reason why bills can't be passed while that's going on.

 

[vastiesmith100]

Thank GOD

this bunch is bankrupting America!!!

 

[pecksniff]

this bunch is bankrupting America!!!

Biden proposes to pay for all this by raising taxes on the rich and corporations. That won't bankrupt America.

 

[phrodeau]

It’s clear who to blame if an infrastructure bill doesn’t pass, and it won’t be Biden.

 

[Ramone45]

It’s clear who to blame if an infrastructure bill doesn’t pass, and it won’t be Biden.

An infrastructure bill, or an "infrastructure" bill?

 

[phrodeau]

An infrastructure bill, or an "infrastructure" bill?

I’ll go with “projects that can lift the American spirit, that are the next-century-type of infrastructure as opposed to just rebuilding what we have currently.” This quote came from the White House in February 2018.

 

[oggbashan]

He has been elected for four years. 'Time running out' is premature.

 

[ll74]

He has been elected for four years. 'Time running out' is premature.

Budget needs to be done by August. The overriding expectation, by many, is that 2022 will shift the Senate back to Republicans. (both from a historical and current trendline perspective) - so campaigning is not going to allow for much room for new legislation.

 

[Rightguide]

There's no reason why bills can't be passed while that's going on.

If they recess their is no one available to vote.

Same thing if a quorum isn't present.

 

[pecksniff]

The overriding expectation, by many, is that 2022 will shift the Senate back to Republicans. (both from a historical and current trendline perspective) . . .

I have my doubts on that point. I haven't heard of any particular Dem-held Senate seat that's likely to flip.

 

[ll74]

I have my doubts on that point. I haven't heard of any particular Dem-held Senate seat that's likely to flip.

Warnock (GA) and Kelly (AZ) and possibly Masto (NV) - all three are going to be tight races, and midterm turnout for Dems after a W is historically low.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Biden proposes to pay for all this by raising taxes on the rich and corporations. That won't bankrupt America.

It also won't work.

 

[WillJ8787]

Good news. Biden’s infrastructure bill, which would include major tax hikes and wasteful spending is stalled in the Senate with time running out. A more reasonable package is likely, focused on traditional infrastructure projects such as airports, roads and bridges, without the tax hikes and excessive spending on social programs, subsidies for “green energy” and other things. Moreover, the bill that would entail a federal takeover of elections is all but dead, and the filibuster remains intact.

The GOP and centrist Democrats like Manchin and Sinema just need to run out the clock. By August, the window for radical legislation the far left was hoping for will be closed and the midterm election season will be upon us. https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...and-politics-bd9b5c85f32e2b094387c81098319a53

Clock running down, it's gonna be close

Only 3 years and 6 months left

 

[pecksniff]

It also won't work.

No reason why it can't -- they do have the money.

 

[YDB95]

Warnock (GA) and Kelly (AZ) and possibly Masto (NV) - all three are going to be tight races, and midterm turnout for Dems after a W is historically low.

But they're on offense in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and possibly a number of others. And turnout is traditionally low because the Dems' base is either complacent or disappointed with the president. Neither is likely to be the case with the prospect of putting the Trumpers back in charge. As for the Republicans, they still haven't figured out how to rally the deplorables without Trump on the ballot, even if he is out there exhorting them to vote.

 

[ll74]

But they're on offense in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and possibly a number of others. And turnout is traditionally low because the Dems' base is either complacent or disappointed with the president. Neither is likely to be the case with the prospect of putting the Trumpers back in charge. As for the Republicans, they still haven't figured out how to rally the deplorables without Trump on the ballot, even if he is out there exhorting them to vote.

I'll be working towards getting out the vote here in Ohio, but most of the people I communicate with are already consistent voters and educated. I'll never believe anything until the election has concluded. Polls be damned.

 

[KeithD]

Many thanks to the OP for pointing out how anti-American and damaging to the nation the assholery of the Trumpian Republicans in Congress is. Isn't it great we now have a decent man as president and an administration who cares for the welfare of all Americans in office rather than the incompetent Donald Trump? We all need to work to push the anti-American Republicans out of Congress in the coming elections. Thanks to the OP for pointing out what the problem is.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Budget needs to be done by August. The overriding expectation, by many, is that 2022 will shift the Senate back to Republicans. (both from a historical and current trendline perspective) - so campaigning is not going to allow for much room for new legislation.

Yes, only non-controversial legislation gets done in election years, especially when the Senate is split down the middle. Biden’s infrastructure bill as it was initially proposed is already dead. The best they can hope for is a scaled back bill around $1 trillion that includes unspent money from the last Covid package. A modest, more conventional infrastructure bill focused on highways, bridges, airports, and that type of is possible, and the corporate tax rate will stay at 21%. The election bill is dead too.

Too early to handicap the 50-50 Senate, but odds of the House flipping back to the GOP remain excellent. GOP control of either chamber prevents new social programs, gun control, election law changes, and other items on the progressive wish list from passing. Our 6-3 SCOTUS majority adds further checks.

 

[ll74]

Yes, only non-controversial legislation gets done in election years, especially when the Senate is split down the middle. Biden’s infrastructure bill as it was initially proposed is already dead. The best they can hope for is a scaled back bill around $1 trillion that includes unspent money from the last Covid package. A modest, more conventional infrastructure bill focused on highways, bridges, airports, and that type of is possible, and the corporate tax rate will stay at 21%. The election bill is dead too.

Too early to handicap the 50-50 Senate, but odds of the House flipping back to the GOP remain excellent. GOP control of either chamber prevents new social programs, gun control, election law changes, and other items on the progressive wish list from passing. Our 6-3 SCOTUS majority adds further checks.

That sounds like you just think the GOP's proposals will get passed without change. I'm not sure that's correct...I think there is more to come on infrastructure.
But certainly the next few weeks will be interesting.

SCOTUS majority won't impact the current legislative calendar.

The House....not sure....redistricting is yet to be done.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

That sounds like you just think the GOP's proposals will get passed without change. I'm not sure that's correct...I think there is more to come on infrastructure.
But certainly the next few weeks will be interesting.

SCOTUS majority won't impact the current legislative calendar.

The House....not sure....redistricting is yet to be done.

The GOP killed the election bill, and the only way Biden gets an infrastructure that includes tax hikes is trying the reconciliation route. Not impossible but the capital gains step up elimination and the corporate tax rate provisions are problematic for at least 2 Democrats. Getting to 50 plus KH is no slam dunk.

 

[pecksniff]

The GOP killed the election bill . . .

I don't expect that one's quite over and done with yet.

 

[ll74]

The GOP killed the election bill, and the only way Biden gets an infrastructure that includes tax hikes is trying the reconciliation route. Not impossible but the capital gains step up elimination and the corporate tax rate provisions are problematic for at least 2 Democrats. Getting to 50 plus KH is no slam dunk.

He'll get the infrastructure bill. Won't be the full monty, but he'll get one.