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[jaF0]

For those that do I/T family stuff ..... Suppose ... just suppose ....


Adult (single or couple) has a thing about their adult kids doing the funky monkey together. But either they don't have offspring or they do, but aren't into each other, would never approach because they would never consider it ... yadda, yadda, yadda ....

So the adult(s) are able to find real siblings who do and they arrange sort of a time share fake adoption thing where they 'hire' the naughty siblings for periods of time. Maybe at a vacation home, or international travel where they can act as a real family and partake of whatever floats their boat.

How would that come together and would it appeal to the I/T crowd?

 

[Euphony]

How that comes together: Isn't that, like, the story?

Wou'd I/T crowd respond: All sorts of readers but I've not seen a number of stories w/similar themes. Remember one that did okay where the original couple set up sort of a commune/retreat for like minded folks. Wouldn't say the comments were effusive or noticed the plot point all that much.

I/T (generally) prefers blood related couples who have to overcome the mountain that is having a long term bond of a completely different nature. It's the unwinding of that and the retying of themselves working around any knots that is the baked in theme many are looking for.

Not saying ideas outside of that scope can't work but it's more swimming upstream.

What emotionally links the two parents to those they want to mentor? Why would two people already struggling against all of society to build a pair bond want to involve third parties who may pose far more risk than help?

If it's stroke, I have trouble thinking it'll be viceral enough for that crowd and they'll wonder why use generics when brand name is available at the same (or even less) time cost?

 

[SimonDoom]

My take is that an I/T story is best told from the perspective of one, or both, of the actual I/T participants. So I don't get the parent angle, and the backstory. Why would parents want this?

I think with an erotic story you should try to figure out what is the erotic focus of the story: what's the one thing about the story that is most important for driving the erotic interest? Whose perspective is most important? Why? Answer those questions and you've got your story. The rest will fall into place.

 

[NotWise]

HollyLoriAnnalee put a story in the last Summer Lovin' contest that had some of the same elements. It's The Christmas in July Luau.

In that story, a couple who runs an ice cream parlor as a front for a prostitution business hired a Latin-American family to have incestuous sex in front of a paying gathering of loyal customers.

It scored well. If you haven't read it, then read it and it might help you develop your ideas.

 

[lovecraft68]

How that comes together: Isn't that, like, the story?

Wou'd I/T crowd respond: All sorts of readers but I've not seen a number of stories w/similar themes. Remember one that did okay where the original couple set up sort of a commune/retreat for like minded folks. Wouldn't say the comments were effusive or noticed the plot point all that much.

I/T (generally) prefers blood related couples who have to overcome the mountain that is having a long term bond of a completely different nature. It's the unwinding of that and the retying of themselves working around any knots that is the baked in theme many are looking for.

Not saying ideas outside of that scope can't work but it's more swimming upstream.

What emotionally links the two parents to those they want to mentor? Why would two people already struggling against all of society to build a pair bond want to involve third parties who may pose far more risk than help?

If it's stroke, I have trouble thinking it'll be viceral enough for that crowd and they'll wonder why use generics when brand name is available at the same (or even less) time cost?

If I understand the post correctly there is real incest as he says the couple finds 'real siblings' who are into each other and they adopt them so they can watch them have sex together.

So he incest is there, its just the siblings however, the parents are not related, but sounds like they only want to be voyeurs anyway so this can work.

A brother sister, desperate for money-maybe to help their parents-agree to be paid to have sex in front of the couple...that would be a great conflicted version...or they advertise on some extreme site for real sibcest and siblings answer the ad

It can be done.

TBH its kind of close to my Porn shoot with my sister story

 

[lovecraft68]

My take is that an I/T story is best told from the perspective of one, or both, of the actual I/T participants. So I don't get the parent angle, and the backstory. Why would parents want this?

I think with an erotic story you should try to figure out what is the erotic focus of the story: what's the one thing about the story that is most important for driving the erotic interest? Whose perspective is most important? Why? Answer those questions and you've got your story. The rest will fall into place.

I get the motive. Parents who have an incest kink and have fantasies of seeing their adult age children have sex with other. Obviously they can't bring it up or try to talk them into it (although that would be my angle) so they find real life siblings who will have sex and they watch them do it while role playing that its their kids to live out their fantasy.

A sexual surrogate type scenario with a taboo twist.

 

[lovecraft68]

I've done this, but with mother son.

A character-who I've used in a couple of stories-had a thing for his mother, his father found out and threw him out of the house. The mother learned why he was thrown out and told the son that she would sleep with him, if that's what he wanted to purge him of the desire...take it for the team.

But before they can arrange a place and time away from the father, she passes of a sudden heart attack...oh, the tragedy!

Now flash forward and Malcolm is a former porn star who is now a producer specializing in taboo movies, with actors of course, but when his brother passes, and his sister in law is in financial trouble and needs money he offers to give her the money, not lend it to her, but for a price....her having sex with her son in front of him.

Mom will do Anything a two part series. Part two is in the all time top 50 in I/T...or maybe its part one...anyway, it went over very well.

 

[jaF0]

A brother sister, desperate for money-maybe to help their parents-agree to be paid to have sex in front of the couple...

That's a factor in the whole story, if it ever comes together. Right now it's all a mangled bunch of disjointed vignettes looking for cohesion. I've hinted a bit on other threads, but I haven't got enough of it worked out to begin anything.

 

[Euphony]

If I understand the post correctly there is real incest as he says the couple finds 'real siblings' who are into each other and they adopt them so they can watch them have sex together.

So he incest is there, its just the siblings however, the parents are not related, but sounds like they only want to be voyeurs anyway so this can work.

A brother sister, desperate for money-maybe to help their parents-agree to be paid to have sex in front of the couple...that would be a great conflicted version...or they advertise on some extreme site for real sibcest and siblings answer the ad

It can be done.

TBH its kind of close to my Porn shoot with my sister story

Yours felt far less muddled. Downright clever in some spots IIRC.
And I've done similar elsewhere.

Financial motivations are quick and easy. Lot of siblings saving each other from the mob/drugs/debts round here.

When we stay "adopt" are we simply substituting the word for grooming, encouraging, supporting and the like? Or are we bolting on an "adoption" storyline for free sibling "intensity" *b/c IMO it requires more work than many assume)

Older couple is into voyeur siblings only couples is fine and simple (to the point I'm curious as to wanting deeper discussion here)

IF the author is trying to emotionally bond the two couples in some way, then I see where some knots need unwinding and retrying up properly.

This is a little more all over the shop.

And haven't we ventured into "story ideas" territory here? A specific plausibility problem I get but this seems asking a lot more than that.

 

[Euphony]

That's a factor in the whole story, if it ever comes together. Right now it's all a mangled bunch of disjointed vignettes looking for cohesion. I've hinted a bit on other threads, but I haven't got enough of it worked out to begin anything.

Bingo.

You need a thread to run through and tie all the vignettes and knots together.

Your theme may help us figure out where you might go with all of this. (I can't even say for certain if it's stroke or relationshippy)

Totally different way you want to drive each of those roads.

 

[Euphony]

I get the motive. Parents who have an incest kink and have fantasies of seeing their adult age children have sex with other. Obviously they can't bring it up or try to talk them into it (although that would be my angle) so they find real life siblings who will have sex and they watch them do it while role playing that its their kids to live out their fantasy.

A sexual surrogate type scenario with a taboo twist.

Thanks for unspooling it. I get it now but I still don't "get" it.

Either the parents get off basically on DL proof of heredity or you need to build up a backstory for the relationship for the two sibs to then get off on.

Your using their own children instead of surrogates, especially considering the I/T readers often feel jipped by Step siblings who basically fully grew up together, seems more logical.

ONLY way I could turn it around (and it's more work than I'd want to take on for it's likely payoff) is:

Mom & Dad finally break down and come out to their adult children about their fetish.

Goes badly.

Couple then starts a friendship with "surrogates" which bears enough fruit the ORIGINAL children feel neglected, have a change of heart, similar.

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[Rustyoznail]

I get the concept, and I’ve spotted a couple of bunnies munching over in the back paddock. However, adopting adults? That would need some explanation.

 

[lovecraft68]

I get the concept, and I’ve spotted a couple of bunnies munching over in the back paddock. However, adopting adults? That would need some explanation.

That's where the age rule rears its head because although all these stories are fictional fantasies, adopting adults is something most readers would like "huh?". Bad enough to have the site full of 18 year old virgins

I'd leave that part out because there is no way to make it work and I wouldn't spend the time and effort to try and come up with some weird reason why it would.

I'd stick with it being a simple taboo voyeur story. Their kids won't, but these two will so they watch them, maybe pay them to do it.

But...here's a bunny I found munching in my yard and promptly kicked out because I don't have time for this, but maybe someone could adopt the bunny

What if the couple had two children (twins work because it would be both at once to give the rest of the idea credence) when they were very young and weren't ready and they gave them up....

few years later they're in a better place and have two more kids. These two won't, but the original kids-who have been seeking their parents find them...the parents then find out the twins are having sex....

Hmm....now...shit! The bunny is still grazing because,....now if desired we can throw in genetic sexual attraction theory and seeing the twins weren't raised by the parents there isn't that same bond and they end up having sex with the parents? Not what the OP was saying, but sometimes the bunnies spawn more bunnies.

I really need help

 

[jaF0]

Don't get hung up on the word 'adoption' It's merely a figure of speech here. People have unofficially 'adopted' others in various forms to establish or carry out longer term situations ... sometimes as caregivers. A couple might 'adopt' an older neighbor that doesn't have family close by and who needs assistance.

Is this case, it's just a reference .... 'this was fun pretending to be family here at the vacation house, let's do it every weekend for a while.'

 

[Euphony]

Don't get hung up on the word 'adoption' It's merely a figure of speech here. People have unofficially 'adopted' others in various forms to establish or carry out longer term situations ... sometimes as caregivers. A couple might 'adopt' an older neighbor that doesn't have family close by and who needs assistance.

Is this case, it's just a reference .... 'this was fun pretending to be family here at the vacation house, let's do it every weekend for a while.'

I only bring it up b/c many in I/T have a "pure blood" complex and don't care for even step siblings as leads so non-family member relationships (in the group) may be something you consider addressing (if you want to swim w/the tide in the category.) The word "adopted" can be triggering so it was worth clarifying.

Cheapily tacked on "relations" all around are more troublesome than none at all and building up the one true relationship.

 

[AvroAnsonXIX]

For those that do I/T family stuff ..... Suppose ... just suppose ....


Adult (single or couple) has a thing about their adult kids doing the funky monkey together...

What's taboo about that? Me and my sister did the 'Chunky Monkey' with each other and mom and dad all the time. Oh, the luscious banana ice cream with those walnuts and the fudge chunks. It was a Ben & Jerry's classic!

Oh, "funky monkey, ... " Sorry, that's completely different!

What if the pesumably married couple "Ma and Pa" aren't two unrelated, but rather secretly a brother and sister? They run a "family business," an Italian restaurant. They cater to families in the neighborhood and act very paternalistically towards thier mostly college aged employees. (Who growing up in a challenging environment. All must be over 18 because of the liquor license, but they aren't attending college.)

Ma and Pa's own biological children are just a bit older than the employees. After graduating from college they have moved away to pursue thier careers. Ma and Pa's employees love them, they call them "Ma and Pa" because "Ma and Pa" always look after thier "kids," helping them grow as people and get out of the neighborhood and go to college.

Darla is one of the waitresses at the restaurant. She has had a string of loser boyfriend's from the neighborhood. Ma and Pa know she can do better, but Darla doesn't realize it herself. Brody just turned 18, and Darla gets him a job at the restaurant as a dishwasher. Everybody likes Brody, like Darla he is a "good person."

Ma and Pa like Brody, the respectful way he treats people, and the way he sticks up for his friends. They have seen him tell Darla that she is too good for her current asshole boyfriend. They have heard him speak admiringly about Darla's good qualities to others.

They also worry about Brody. They have his girlfriend pegged as someone who sees Brody as a ticket out of the neighborhood. They wish he would find someone better like Darla, but they support thier "kids" without interfering or giving advice lest they get an oppositional reaction.

They bide thier time. Eventually there is a flare up not of thier making. Darla finally has enough, and Brody suggests to Darla "(she) needs to take a step back from the asshole." Darla gives the loser his walking papers. Brody's girl gets jealous of the time he spends with his sister ...

So Ma and Pa plant a thought in Bridy's mind "take your own advice. When (Brody's girl) suggests that Darla is a loser she is trying to manipulate her. Which woman k own the real you and loves you without condition? Which one would use you and discard you?"

At first it's not romantic, Darla and Brody spend time together that they would have spent dating. Ma and Pa subtly and incrementally push them together, scheduling thier shifts, helping them find a studio apartment to share -- why spend the extra money on a one bedroom?

Ma and Pa suggest romantic places to go, give them time-off or make plans for them: "we were given these tickets but can't go." They hush objections by saying that the two "are young should have fun with someone they love -- even if the love isn't romantic -- and if (they) don't then the jerks whom you are better off without will have won."

The four talk, it's voyeuristic for Ma and Pa but aurally not visually. Well there are little displays of public affection when the two kids think nobody is watching in the back rooms or before and after dining hours at work.

It was always love, it becomes romantic and sexual when Brody and Darla realize that Mom and Pop were right. They are each other's perfect match. The kids actions together tell Ma and Pa what has transpired. Thier supportive words allow the kids to "come clean."

Ma and Pa reveal they are brother and sister as well, having been together 30 years now. Darla and Brody stay at the restaurant, becoming managers and eventually Ma and Pa help them set up thier own restaurant three towns over.

In 25 years everyone there knows 'Darbro's' as a friendly neighborhood restaurant where the married couple who runs the joint takes a very paternalistic approach to management and the employees love Mamma Darla and Papa Brody. Because: "they always have thier kids best interests at heart."