I See Great Environmental News This Morning!

[Champakian]

Gas prices are steadily creeping up.



We'll soon be driving mass quantities of electric cars
probably powered by all of those new solar farms.







The only possible downside is when the political class
wakes up and notices; these prices hurt the poor.
Maybe some sort of welfare subsidy...

:nods:

 

[WillJ8787]

The poor don't drive cars..they actually are environmentally doing the right things as a consequence of being poor.

 

[sighLent]

The poor don't drive cars..they actually are environmentally doing the right things as a consequence of being poor.

right

they steal em from the rich.....

 

[Champakian]

What country does this clown live in? Cuba?



This is one of the few countries where the poor have cars, color TVs and air-conditioning.

 

[WillJ8787]

Our great Country...I can see this with my eyes every day and so can you...well, probably not in the boondocks of Minnesota.

 

[Champakian]

I do see it.

That is exactly why I stated it.

I'm not sure what you are seeing, or where...

 

[RobDownSouth]

What country does this clown live in? Cuba?



This is one of the few countries where the poor have cars, color TVs and air-conditioning.

And Refrigerators! And MICROWAVES!
https://i.imgur.com/MH5nMGa.png

Seriously, Chief, when is the last time you saw a black and white TV? Nevermind, I looked it up: Sears was the last major chain to offer black and white TVs for sale, and they ceased doing that after Christmas 1990...thirty years ago. Amazon has color TVs on sale for $99 today.

You really need to update your selective outrage rants, Tonto.

 

[ishtat]

Gas prices are steadily creeping up.
:nods:

Correct. But it is also noticeable that so far there has been very little interest in more investment in marginal resources, oil shale/sands etc. This contrasts with 2016-2017 when heavy investment in such resources was popular, but proved to be a poor decision. So as the price of oil goes up, Green sources of energy become even more competitive. The cost of turbines is way down, their efficiency is well up, and solar and battery installations proceed apace.

It seems to me that economics is quite swiftly taking the climate/energy debate away from the politicians.

 

[WillJ8787]

I do see it.

That is exactly why I stated it.

I'm not sure what you are seeing, or where...

Ah, just in
philadelphia
Baltimore
Washington DC
Charlotte
Releigh
Savanna
NYC
Hartford
Boston
Flint
Boston
Miami
Tallahassee
New Orleans
Austin
Houston
Dallas
LA
San Francisco
Seattle
Portland
Phoenix
Chi-town
Detroit
Indianapolis
Cleveland
Honolulu
Juno
I'm sure Im not even half way with a complete.list.

 

[CornusKousa]

The poor don't drive cars..they actually are environmentally doing the right things as a consequence of being poor.

LOL.....a grand reason to N. Korea the whole country!!

The progressive utopia!!!

What country does this clown live in? Cuba?

This is one of the few countries where the poor have cars, color TVs and air-conditioning.

He's probably never been in a poor country.

Our great Country...I can see this with my eyes every day and so can you...well, probably not in the boondocks of Minnesota.

See what?

And I don't think he live in the boondocks of Minnesota, that's where I live.

And Refrigerators! And MICROWAVES!

Considering most the planet doesn't have indoor plumbing or limited to no access to potable water???

Fridge and a microwave are big pimpin' bubba.

Seriously, Chief, when is the last time you saw a black and white TV? Nevermind, I looked it up: Sears was the last major chain to offer black and white TVs for sale, and they ceased doing that after Christmas 1990...thirty years ago. Amazon has color TVs on sale for $99 today.

You really need to update your selective outrage rants, Tonto.

Seriously, David Duke Down South, when was the last time you left the country and visited the 3rd world???

 

[Champakian]

I've been everywhere man,
I've been everywhere...


You might have actually seen one of those places,
but I really kind of doubt that.

 

[Champakian]

Racists love to use Racist words...




Nothing like happily outing yourself.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Racists love to use Racist words...
Nothing like happily outing yourself.

Why not call Haitians "sub human" again...just for old times' sake!

 

[WillJ8787]

I've been everywhere man,
I've been everywhere...


You might have actually seen one of those places,
but I really kind of doubt that.

Mr. Cash's quotes are acceptable to me!

 

[WillJ8787]

"He's probably never been in a poor country."

I have...poor folks don't drive cars there either...and in even some of the most poor parts of the world...the poor still get around on a system that is way more environmental sustainable.

These places...often have better systems of transportation than the USA with select exceptions.

 

[Champakian]

Ever seen 20,000 bicycles in two city blocks?


Very green. Very RED Green...

 

[phrodeau]

Of the 285 billion-dollar disasters that have hit the US since 1980, 124 of them have impacted Texas.

How does it possibly make sense to rely on the weather in Texas for low energy costs?

 

[MissMandy86]

Bottom line is electric cars are better, faster, cheaper and cleaner. The oil companies dont like that and the Republicans misinformation campaigns wont hold back the hard truth forever

Remember when Republicans use to go around saying
It takes more energy to build a solar panal then the panel will ever produce

Today reasonable people know thats not true

an investment in solar panals typically pays for itself in 5 to 10 years.

 

[WillJ8787]

Bottom line is electric cars are better, faster, cheaper and cleaner. The oil companies dont like that and the Republicans misinformation campaigns wont hold back the hard truth forever

Remember when Republicans use to go around saying
It takes more energy to build a solar panal then the panel will ever produce

Today reasonable people know thats not true

an investment in solar panals typically pays for itself in 5 to 10 years.

Yep, I'm trying to make the jump to an electric pickup from my F150. I never buy new vehicles anyway so I'm not directly in that market. I prefer.biking and surfing as my modes of transportation

 

[RobDownSouth]

Considering most the planet doesn't have indoor plumbing or limited to no access to potable water???

Fridge and a microwave are big pimpin' bubba.



Seriously, David Duke Down South, when was the last time you left the country and visited the 3rd world???

That's your "standard of excellence"? "Murica's not a third-world shithole so the poor in Murica should just be happy with what they got"?

Murica is a first world country, chum, standard of living is different here.

Comparing Murica to a third-world country is pretty fucking stupid, even for you.

 

[CornusKousa]

Bottom line is electric cars are better, faster, cheaper and cleaner.

"better" is subjective.

They are not faster.

They are not cheaper.

And they are only as clean as their electracy source...so if you're provided electricity by a coal burner?? Maybe to nope depending on the individual plant.

Your "bottom line" is highly fractured.

 

[CornusKousa]

You know Rob is triggered when he starts off by disparaging veterans and chucking racial slurs at people who reject his anti-American politics.

That's your "standard of excellence"? "Murica's not a third-world shithole so the poor in Murica should just be happy with what they got"?

No, not a standard of excellence...because we're not discussing people of excellence.

The standard is that of poverty.

If the poor are tired of being poor, they should consider doing what they need to do in order to make themselves more valuable/marketable.

Murica is a first world country, chum, standard of living is different here.

Yes and even for our poor, it's the best there is. They live in luxury that royalty just 100 years ago couldn't even imagine in their wildest fantasies.

If you want more, do more.

Comparing Murica to a third-world country is pretty fucking stupid, even for you.

Why be cause it shits all over your demented perspective that the poor have it terrible here because those with higher standards of excellence are allowed to excel and prosper beyond the level that some bum or degenerate is able to achieve????

Oh noes inequity!!! LOL....someone has 1 dollar more than Comrade Rob, clearly he is a victim!!! Better call the feds to fix that so fee fees don't get too hurt.

 

[OldJourno]

And Refrigerators! And MICROWAVES!
https://i.imgur.com/MH5nMGa.png

Seriously, Chief, when is the last time you saw a black and white TV? Nevermind, I looked it up: Sears was the last major chain to offer black and white TVs for sale, and they ceased doing that after Christmas 1990...thirty years ago. Amazon has color TVs on sale for $99 today.

You really need to update your selective outrage rants, Tonto.

Seriously, chief, forget if it's black and white or color - though in Cuba I suppose that's still an important distinction - and just focus on the number of homes in the U.S. with televisions.
And refrigerators.
And cars.
And cell phones.
In the U.S., "poor" people have them.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Seriously, chief, forget if it's black and white or color - though in Cuba I suppose that's still an important distinction - and just focus on the number of homes in the U.S. with televisions.
And refrigerators.
And cars.
And cell phones.
In the U.S., "poor" people have them.

Are you suggesting that having a TV, microwave, refrigerator and a cell phone means you're technically not "poor" by your standard?

Not all poor people have cars, btw. I suspect a good number of them don't.

 

[JackLuis]

Ever seen 20,000 bicycles in two city blocks?


Very green. Very RED Green...

In Bejing At a traffic circle! I saw the way the bikers controlled the intersections by massing until they just forced the nonexistent lights to change and a surge of them would force the opposing traffic to stop! Very Socialistic.