naked but clothed

[loriestories]

I had an idea where the basic premise is the following:
- If the main character wears clothes, the world sees him or her as naked but if the main character goes nude, the world sees him or her with clothes on.

The struggle could be what the character wants the world to see and what that means for them. If he or she is not comfortable with everyone seeing them naked they would want the world to see them with clothes on. But in order for that to happen the character has to be naked. So they'd be uncomfortable being naked but the world would see them as they want to be seen.

I've given a little thought to the idea but haven't figured out (1) a way that the main character would end up in that situation and (2) how they would figure out what the world sees.

Another part I haven't figured out is if the person is naked how would appropriate clothing be generated for the situation the person was in. So that a swimsuit would be worn at the beach and work clothes worn at the office and not the opposite. Maybe it can be a given that clothing would be appropriate.

Finally, I have no idea how to handle the situation if the person was going to have sex with someone.

Just some thought on an idea that appeals to me.

 

[LupusDei]

The situation where a person is naked and struggling with it internally while no one around seems to notice and seemingly think they're about as appropriately dressed as it could be is one of the strange ideas I too find extremely arousing.

I've given a little thought to the idea but haven't figured out (1) a way that the main character would end up in that situation and (2) how they would figure out what the world sees.

Another part I haven't figured out is if the person is naked how would appropriate clothing be generated for the situation the person was in. So that a swimsuit would be worn at the beach and work clothes worn at the office and not the opposite. Maybe it can be a given that clothing would be appropriate.

Obviously we need some minds altering magic. How it's formulated, presented or explained is whole another rabbit hole.

Then the third question is simple: everyone sees them exactly as they expect them to look like, as if they were perfectly appropriate presented for the situation as expected -- by each observer. The clothes are pulled directly from each viewer's own imagination. This means, people may, and probably will in some cases develop strong disagreements about our cursed person's current wardrobe while they are naked. It could -- or could not -- be resolved by the person in question offering unnaturally persuasive claims about what they are, supposedly, wearing. Including, a person who _strongly_ knows the person is indeed naked may eventually even see them that way too also, but it may require direct claims and clear evidence, e.g. touching "trough" the imaginary clothing with then disappear. That should resolve the sex situation. (As an extreme extension it's even possible they even may engage in sex acts in public and nobody seems to notice still, or explain unavoidable effects in some other, possibly increasingly incredibly convoluted ways.)

As this is laid out, I'm struggling a bit with the clothing-naked state instead. Sure, observers may indeed imagine them naked, but those who lack definitive information may have difficulties or inaccuracies (sure, as soon the person had been naked- clothed in their presence the information is actually there even if the observer doesn't remember/realize). The crazy thing is, it realistically can lead to situations where bystanders offer the cursed person various articles of their own clothing to cover up with that then... dissapear?

Could it be that people react to the person's clothing as if it were obscene somehow? No matter how great it was, observers are unanimously claiming the person looks so obscene they could as well rather be naked and need to change immediately. In this case the absurd state is clearly communicating to the victim because they will be harrassed about their clothing until they strip, and then prised about how good they look now, in best outfit imaginable... at least as long as the person themselves don't try to insist they are indeed naked, with may or may not break the spell momentarily.

There's still potential for craziness with offering the person clothes to cover up with, the offered clothes may look so obscene on them the person offering it may themselves refuse to wear anymore -- in case they took it off to help the cursed friend. In extreme cases it may lead to this effect to be partially contagious... as in, if in effort to correct the absolutely inappropriate clothed state of the cursed person, a friend ends up undressing completely, they too must remain so in order to look publicly acceptable, at least as long as they are in immediate vicinity of the cursed person. Since they end up with two sets of completely fine but absurdly absolutely unusable clothes, they will both know they both are naked, but nobody else would see it.

Perhaps... are any clothes worn by the cursed person become tainted permanently? Or only as long as they are inside the distortion field emanating from the cursed person (or magical item they are carrying)? Besides, if there's defined distortion field, would far away observers the cursed person is unaware of see them naked or clothed?

How would the effects interact with the digital (and analog) photo/video equipment? How would the person look in a printed or projected image by a completely uninvolved perfect stranger in a far away land and/or years later? If the imagining equipment is operated by a person we could have chance to project their imagination into to recorded images in the moment of exposure, but how about autonomous CCTV systems and similar? Maybe just a blurry smear regardless? Of course the story may simply avoid to ever invoke such situations, even if it becomes a glaring logical omission if situated in modern world. Or, the ability to expose the person's true state of (un)dress through stored images obtained by same, but perhaps not any equipment and viewed in absence and/or knowledge of the cursed person may feature as a plot engine too.

 

[LupusDei]

Seemingly very different but tangentially related as it exploit and explore the same structures of extreme inadequacy might be my idea I expressed here some time ago, in perhaps much too dry a language as it gathered no reactions:

Spontaneous Involuntary Nudity Syndrome

It differs mainly in that that everyone knows exactly that the affected person is indeed naked, but everyone -- perhaps except the victim themselves -- is strictly convicted the affected person should and must be naked and would seek to convince them to strip if they aren't, but would react to them as perfectly appropriate and acceptable when they are naked.

Nobody knows how exactly this bizarre social disorder works and spreads, as it's considered doubtful there's any physical agent for the condition at all, it doesn't even seem outright contagious, or maybe the incubation period is quite long and very varied, as there's some proof that exposure to affected persons increases the likelihood of an episode in others afterwards.

As the name implies, persons affected by Spontaneous Involuntary Nudity Syndrome can not -- and is not allowed to -- wear any kind of normal clothing; otherwise the condition is deemed harmless, at least if allowed to proceed normally, that is, if the person is nude. It may happen suddenly anywhere and anytime and can last for a seemingly random duration from less than few hours to days, can have recurring episodes anytime later and/or become permanent condition, as far the limited data suggests. And yes, it seems to unproportionally affect young, healthy and fit women.

There's two main scenarios of an episode. The most obvious case is when she becomes increasingly uncomfortable in her clothes to the point she sheds them, despite almost anything. The surprising aspect is, she receive nothing but praise and support from others doing so, even the most dig in religious fundamentalists will admit she must be nude, if not right away then after a short period in her presence, at least as long the episode lasts.

The second case is the latest aspect expressing itself to the extreme -- the victim herself may appear clueless and surprised when just about everyone suggests and increasingly strongly insists she should strip. Eventually she does so, even if she objects intellectually and rationally she goes with it regardless, with no embarrassment and just the slightest trace of modesty and may be expressing relief shortly.

The acronym SINS is criticized for being grossly misleading and inappropriate, as there's nothing inherently sexual about the condition and the victim has no choice in the matter. However, and rather understandably, there can be sexual arousal and hijinks, but the official advice is to at least try to regard the affected persons like there was nothing unusual.

There's also (mostly scientifically unsupported) conventional wisdom that suppressing a SINS episode can lead to harm, psychological and perhaps even physical, up to an attempt of suicide, and laws are proposed to protect it as exception. Frankly, it's rather redundant as even police officers are more likely to order a reluctant case of "latent" SINS or emerging episode to strip than fine for breaking laws. The only case could be if an acute condition suddenly clears with the affected person out in the open and without means to quickly cover up.

How the acceptance area effect around the affected person of the condition works is another open mystery. One wild theory is that it is some kind subconscious mind control, but of course, people deny that, claiming it's simply sincere empathy and compassion.

 

[Hypoxia]

IMHO the story needs 1) magic if set in camera-laden times, or 2) mind-control if set earlier.

In (1), the spell affects all living and inorganic sensors, and forms a thermal shield against excess heat and cold. Hope the magic doesn't expire.

In (2), the subject consciously (or not) emits brainwaves showing them as clothed when they're naked -- pleasant in a warm climate, less so elsewhere.

In either situation, why would the subject stop at faking clothing? Expect them to engage in theft, assault, all sorts of nasty activities... unless the subject in (2) is unaware of their MC powers and, along with bystanders, assumes they're clothed. but wonders why they feel naked. Hilarity ensues.

In either the magic or conscious MC situations, the subject should pay a price for inducing compulsions. Maybe they can only appear clothed for a limited time with a limited audience, and their power weakens with use.

 

[LupusDei]

In either the magic or conscious MC situations, the subject should pay a price for inducing compulsions. Maybe they can only appear clothed for a limited time with a limited audience, and their power weakens with use.

As the premise is, they are already a victim, at least initially. They don't want to be naked, but are forced to be by this strange magic that they are unable to control or even understand. Figuring out they are stuck into this absurd situation and that nudity is a remedy for at least partially normal living is a plot point on it's own right.

In either situation, why would the subject stop at faking clothing? Expect them to engage in theft, assault, all sorts of nasty activities... unless the subject in (2) is unaware of their MC powers and, along with bystanders, assumes they're clothed. but wonders why they feel naked. Hilarity ensues.

Yes, that's possible as an endgame after they are figured out and mastered the magic involved. Overdoing that further might start to induce costs. Loosing the effect eventually though could be a liberation, probably bittersweet by then, as they had adapted to being nude whenever and wherever.

 

[JaxRhapsody]

Is he also brave, but he's chickenshit
One hand in his pocket, and the other hailing a taxi cab?

 

[loriestories]

I thought the story would be similar to this story...
https://www.literotica.com/s/the-nude-world

In the Nude World story everyone wakes up naked one day and no one knows anything about clothes except Hannah (the main character). Hannah wonders why she's naked but the nudity is not an issue for anyone else.

Maybe in my idea the main character wakes up in a similar world. They get dressed in the morning as normal but when they come down for breakfast their family or roommate wonder why they're naked. Or maybe a family member or roommate walks in on them while they're naked and instead of commenting on their nudity they comment on the main characters new outfit.

My thought was the main character would be a victim rather than someone manipulating the world through mind control.

But again, this is just an idea. Someone can use it to write the story themselves.

 

[Hypoxia]

I thought the story would be similar to this story...
https://www.literotica.com/s/the-nude-world

In the Nude World story everyone wakes up naked one day and no one knows anything about clothes except Hannah (the main character). Hannah wonders why she's naked but the nudity is not an issue for anyone else.

In my A Fall of Stardust an extrasolar comet's passing spreads a Dark Matter blend that dissolves all fabrics. Humanity awakens with clothes, bedclothes, sails, ropes, etc all GONE! This terribly embarrasses ET aliens who only pass as human when draped. Read the tale to see the consequences. SPOILER: Humans choose to remain naked.

 

[Carnevil9]

Magic is one way to make the story work. Another is hypnosis.

The Main Character is hypnotized so that when he is clothed, he thinks he is naked, but when he is naked, he thinks he is clothed. No muss, no fuss. Much hilarity ensues.

 

[sirhugs]

Magic is one way to make the story work. Another is hypnosis.

The Main Character is hypnotized so that when he is clothed, he thinks he is naked, but when he is naked, he thinks he is clothed. No muss, no fuss. Much hilarity ensues.

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