Kamala Harris is a dipshit

[mayfly13]

Changing the issue to racial issues? Did you sleep through 2020 and all the protests ? You must be paki boi.

aaaaa... my friend...

I actually missed all the trolls..

 

[Aglaopheme]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-trending-hang-mike-pence


https://www.ourquadcities.com/news/...ob-built-gallows-and-chanted-hang-mike-pence/


Hang Mike Pence trending on Twitter and a video of the mob chanting hang Mike Pence. There is plenty of correct info out there if you care to look, but you don’t.

 

[butters]

Possibly...... Nutters gotta nut.

They may have truly believed they could trigger a flashpoint where 73 million Trump loyalists would spontaneously rise up and install a fascist white supremacist government through force of arms with Trump as its figurehead.

I can't believe they would have attempted this if they didn't have some assurances or assistance from inside law enforcement and the military.

However, I still think there's a possibility that they were allowed to act out so that the domestic terrorists could be charged or identified as part of a larger anti domestic terror operation.

Contrary to what some of the RWCJ's on this board think, the government intelligence agencies currently list right wing terrorists as the number one domestic threat to America.

I'm sure there were many there believing they were just going to invade the building (because they could and organisers had had assurances of non-confrontation from the likes of Mo Brooks and other officials) and shout, yell, wave flags and stuff to make the senators overturn the election results.

however, there were enough (as you know) there with real plans of violence clearly emboldened by a foreknowledge of tacit support/a lack of resistance by armed forces.

from hashy's earlier link:

The Washington Post also reported Friday that the Pentagon had issued orders disarming the Washington DC National Guard before Wednesday’s rally, delaying any armed response for several hours pending deployments from out of state:

The Pentagon placed tight limits on the DC National Guard ahead of pro-Trump protests this week… In memos issued Monday and Tuesday in response to a request from the DC mayor, the Pentagon prohibited the District’s guardsmen from receiving ammunition or riot gear, interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense, sharing equipment with local law enforcement, or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary’s explicit sign-off, according to officials familiar with the orders.

Even then, the Pentagon refused to act for several hours on a request by Maryland Republican Governor Larry Hogan to deploy his state’s National Guard against the insurrectionists. On Wednesday night, Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy downplayed this delay, claiming there was “a little bit of confusion” after congressional leaders called Hogan from a bunker, begging him to deploy the guard and save their lives.

that middle para directly goes against something the pentagon put out about contacting the dc police to offer support of armed troops only to be turned down, twice, on it! I'm thinking different people (those doing their job defending americans and the constitution vs those doing trump's bidding) were responsible for those 2 sides of things.

there is NO way, with this shit all over the internet, with safety watchdogs issuing warnings to the capitol, and publishing this stuff online as credible threats to the proceedings, that those in real charge were unaware of the threats. They ACTIVELY worked to suppress resistance. Hell, even the expected 'norm' of protection for the representatives wasn't in place. How many of those in the capitol building could potentially have been slain wednesday, of either party? Not all of the representatives were ushered away to safety, many were left hunkering down in offices or on floors fearing for their lives.

 

[Lazaran]

I'm sure there were many there believing they were just going to invade the building (because they could and organisers had had assurances of non-confrontation from the likes of Mo Brooks and other officials) and shout, yell, wave flags and stuff to make the senators overturn the election results.

however, there were enough (as you know) there with real plans of violence clearly emboldened by a foreknowledge of tacit support/a lack of resistance by armed forces.

from hashy's earlier link:


that middle para directly goes against something the pentagon put out about contacting the dc police to offer support of armed troops only to be turned down, twice, on it! I'm thinking different people (those doing their job defending americans and the constitution vs those doing trump's bidding) were responsible for those 2 sides of things.

there is NO way, with this shit all over the internet, with safety watchdogs issuing warnings to the capitol, and publishing this stuff online as credible threats to the proceedings, that those in real charge were unaware of the threats. They ACTIVELY worked to suppress resistance. Hell, even the expected 'norm' of protection for the representatives wasn't in place. How many of those in the capitol building could potentially have been slain wednesday, of either party? Not all of the representatives were ushered away to safety, many were left hunkering down in offices or on floors fearing for their lives.

All good points.

There is also the possibility that there were opposing factions within various agencies actively pursuing different agendas.

The coup failed, and all those who facilitated the breaching of the Capitol, or were grossly incompetent in the security planning will undoubtably be held accountable.

My guess is that the lack of security and the facilitation of the insurgency will ultimately be traced back to Trump and his cabal.

 

[KeithD]

The coup failed,

the coup is ongoing. It may be bumbling and weak, but it hasn't stopped yet.

This is the problem with Trump being Trump and being cornered and facing multiple prosecutions in a week and a half. He will never stop until he isn't being given support from anywhere. And there are still Republicans giving him support. Coupists are walking the halls of Congress.

 

[mayfly13]

All good points.

There is also the possibility that there were opposing factions within various agencies actively pursuing different agendas.

The coup failed, and all those who facilitated the breaching of the Capitol, or were grossly incompetent in the security planning will undoubtably be held accountable.

My guess is that the lack of security and the facilitation of the insurgency will ultimately be traced back to Trump and his cabal.

This too!!!

NSA/FBI/Pentagon would make for an excellent topic of discussion.

I think that
(and I'm not referring to Snowden, who might have sold America to Russians&co - I'm referring to clear patriots like Daniel Ellsberg)
that these organizations are filled with two types: real patriots like Ellsberg, and technocrats who want to get ahead.

Which ones, do people think, played a role in the failed coup d'etat?

 

[Lazaran]

the coup is ongoing. It may be bumbling and weak, but it hasn't stopped yet.

This is the problem with Trump being Trump and being cornered and facing multiple prosecutions in a week and a half. He will never stop until he isn't being given support from anywhere. And there are still Republicans giving him support. Coupists are walking the halls of Congress.

I'm comfortable with saying the coup failed.

It was anemic and poorly orchestrated from its inception.

It kind of reminds me of the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer.

Pathetic.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

This too!!!

NSA/FBI/Pentagon would make for an excellent topic of discussion.

I think that
(and I'm not referring to Snowden, who might have sold America to Russians&co - I'm referring to clear patriots like Daniel Ellsberg)
that these organizations are filled with two types: real patriots like Ellsberg, and technocrats who want to get ahead.

Which ones, do people think, played a role in the failed coup d'etat?

^^^^^^^^^^^^

How long till the ban hammer drops again on this one? Any bets?

 

[mayfly13]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

How long till the ban hammer drops again on this one? Any bets?

Hi, Emerson40 alt.
Your obsessions & inability to discern nuances regularly give you up.

 

[LLCox]

I'm comfortable with saying the coup failed.

It was anemic and poorly orchestrated from its inception.

Actually I don't think any of them thought they would actually get inside. I think they think the victory was to just get inside. Yes, there were a few who had weapons and zip ties but there was really no plan for "after".

They were trumptards after all.

 

[KeithD]

I'm comfortable with saying the coup failed.

It was anemic and poorly orchestrated from its inception.

It kind of reminds me of the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer.

Pathetic.

Who is there in an authority position to authorize/initiate response any quicker or more effective on the 17th or 20th of January that there was on the 6th? There's nothing safe or completed about anything today any more than on January 5th.

 

[Lazaran]

Actually I don't think any of them thought they would actually get inside. I think they think the victory was to just get inside. Yes, there were a few who had weapons and zip ties but there was really no plan for "after".

They were trumptards after all.

Yeah, it's like the incel eunuchs somehow ended up in a room with Sofia Vergara naked and were like...now what???

*chuckles*

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Hi, Emerson40 alt.
Your obsessions & inability to discern nuances regularly give you up.

Funny how people confuse me with a fellow Canadian.....eh?

oh well

 

[ishtat]

I'm comfortable with saying the coup failed.

No, the 'coup' will continue until at least the mid terms and then kick on until Nov 2024. Have a look at the GOP published policy on re-districting. As published, by their own calculations they only have to swing about 350,000 votes in 4/5 states to win the Presidency. The GOP is calculating that they could lose the popular vote by 8 million and still win in the electoral college if they redistrict 'satisfactorily'.

It is no time for complacency. The D's need another 49 Stacey Abrams to lead the nitty gritty work on the ground, because the R's seem better organized in that respect.

 

[Lazaran]

No, the 'coup' will continue until at least the mid terms and then kick on until Nov 2024. Have a look at the GOP published policy on re-districting. As published, by their own calculations they only have to swing about 350,000 votes in 4/5 states to win the Presidency. The GOP is calculating that they could lose the popular vote by 8 million and still win in the electoral college if they redistrict 'satisfactorily'.

It is no time for complacency. The D's need another 49 Stacey Abrams to lead the nitty gritty work on the ground, because the R's seem better organized in that respect.

I guess your definition of coup and mine are different.

For the next 2-4 years democrats will work on behalf of ALL Americans to address the multiple crises that have been exacerbated by Trump and the republitards.

I expect there's going to be major economic challenges thanks to Trump's bungling of the Covid response and his tax policies, but with targeted stimulus and investment in the infrastructure projects that Trump "promised", along with a comprehensive Covid strategy, Biden/Harris and the democrats should be able to shepherd the country through them.

If voters shit on the democrats in 2022 and 2024 for "unexplainable" reasons like they did in 2016, well, that's the democratic process and I'll work towards 2026-2028

 

[nowisthetime]

There's one thing I've noticed about Deplorables.

Sure, they can dish it with their racism, bigotry, violence, anti-American fascism, treason, but once a Democrat calls them out on it, all of a sudden the Dem is the bad guy, the meanie, the bully. They want people to just sit back and take it, while they fling their slime and destroy this country.

Look at this smelly, old, inbred redneck (MAGAts are usually hideous inside and out) insulting Kamala in the title, as if he's so much superior by virtue of his skin color. You are delusional.

Gaslighting at its finest. That is why you are all considered low class degenerates, even your own idol, Dump, sees you as trashy and looks down on y'all.

 

[YDB95]

There's one thing I've noticed about Deplorables.

Sure, they can dish it with their racism, bigotry, violence, anti-American fascism, treason, but once a Democrat calls them out on it, all of a sudden the Dem is the bad guy, the meanie, the bully. They want people to just sit back and take it, while they fling their slime and destroy this country.

Look at this smelly, old, inbred redneck (MAGAts are usually hideous inside and out) insulting Kamala in the title, as if he's so much superior by virtue of his skin color. You are delusional.

Gaslighting at its finest. That is why you are all considered low class degenerates, even your own idol, Dump, sees you as trashy and looks down on y'all.

You're right, but this is not new. They've always had a massive sense of entitlement to call us America-hating communists, then they get all bent out of shape when we say one word against them. My pet theory is they've fallen for their own propaganda and they believe we really do hate America, so why should we take any offence when they say so?

BLM protesters/rioters were largely left alone by Police to run rampant throughout last year, so I find this idea that the Police would have treated those that stormed the capitol building more harshly if they were black, a bit strange.

Here's a perfect example of "falling for one's own propaganda". Again, nearly all BLM protests have been peaceful, the much of the little violence that has occurred has turned out to be the work of right-wing counterprotesters, and the BLM activists who have turned violent did not get away with it. But that doesn't fit the narrative, so they're going to right on telling anyone who will listen that all our cities are burning like it's 1968 out there.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Here's a perfect example of "falling for one's own propaganda". Again, nearly all BLM protests have been peaceful, the much of the little violence that has occurred has turned out to be the work of right-wing counterprotesters, and the BLM activists who have turned violent did not get away with it. But that doesn't fit the narrative, so they're going to right on telling anyone who will listen that all our cities are burning like it's 1968 out there.

https://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2111346&stc=1&d=1610249525

 

[mayfly13]

There's one thing I've noticed about Deplorables.

Sure, they can dish it with their racism, bigotry, violence, anti-American fascism, treason, but once a Democrat calls them out on it, all of a sudden the Dem is the bad guy, the meanie, the bully. They want people to just sit back and take it, while they fling their slime and destroy this country.

Look at this smelly, old, inbred redneck (MAGAts are usually hideous inside and out) insulting Kamala in the title, as if he's so much superior by virtue of his skin color. You are delusional.

Gaslighting at its finest. That is why you are all considered low class degenerates, even your own idol, Dump, sees you as trashy and looks down on y'all.

Could you & please fucking give it a rest? Only temporararily, for a few days

I actually understand your preoccupations & I'm partly with you in real life.
As an olive skinned immigrant from a 2nd world SE European country, I, too Did encounter bigotry irl. Only 1/20th of what you ever experienced, bit still....
In saying that, I also came across skeevy attitudes from my own kind & poc minority groups & I displayed them.


But all that is secondary right now.
We've all witnessed an unprecedented, mind-blowing attempt at a coup d'etat, in AMERICA!!! and posts like by pointless's/lazaran's /ishtat etc. are what many of us want to read to get a grasp on things.

 

[nowisthetime]

Up to me, MAGAt turd, Kamala didn't go far enough.


Should have called for all of those terrorist trespassers to be murked like rabid animals on the spot upon entering the building, that would have sent a firm message. Should have gotten her Golda Meir on.

We are done trying to understand you all, the world see you for what you are....traitors.

MAGAT trash, you should be weeping for the family of that cop who got bludgeoned about the head, thought you all were about Blue Lives Matter? Instead, trying to save face, like the turds you are...fuck you.

 

[YDB95]

But all that is secondary right now.
We've all witnessed an unprecedented, mind-blowing attempt at a coup d'etat, in AMERICA!!! and posts like by pointless's/lazaran's /ishtat etc. are what many of us want to read to get a grasp on things.

Are you even listening to yourself here? You note - correctly - that we've just been through an unprecedented attempted coup...but those who decry the circumstances that led directly to that event are the problem? Say what?

 

[mayfly13]

Are you even listening to yourself here? You note - correctly - that we've just been through an unprecedented attempted coup...but those who decry the circumstances that led directly to that event are the problem? Say what?

gotta admit -
trolling you Libs-good versus Libs-bad Joan of Arcs - on a porn-board mouth-breathers has always been fun.

But right now, it's much more fascinating to try to figure out who else might have been involved in the attempted coup.

Because, as unhinged/narcissistic as Trump currently is
and as Lazaran or someone else remarked,
it's doubtful that he /other puppet-masters would have been so emboldened, if not for inside/high ranking help.

 

[nowisthetime]

Officer deserves a raise and lifetime wine for blasting the terrorist bitch. One less trash on Earth. He did what the other chickenshit cowards couldn't do and possibly saved a bunch of Congress people's lives.


Mad at Kamala? Nope, you shouldn't be, direct your anger towards your useless fellow MAGAt thug terrorist buddies. We are tired of you.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Is such an attitude helpful in these particular circumstances?

Yes.

What else you worried about?

 

[mayfly13]

This entire saga is starting to take a different shape in my mind --- and I'm sure others feel the same.

Until today, I was viewing it through the lens of
-- a disgruntled president who can't come to terms with losing -- thus had incited a coup
-- morons & paid agitators & genuine desperate desillusioned people (even if misguided) who thoughtlessly invaded the Capitol.


But it goes much deeper than that. It was planned by Trump AND Military/Pentagon factions.

I am now suspecting that Facebook&Instagram&co aren't banning people just because they want to stop splitting or mayhem or Trumpist unhinged madness.
They were briefed by Intel. that more coups (organized by high-ranking officials) could be under way.


This is no longer about a mad Nero stirring people; it's a semi-military war situation.