Covid Death Toll is Zero

[OldJourno]

Actually, the study from Johns Hopkins indicates that there may be more than 250,000 deaths attributed to the China virus, but it has been an average year in terms of the number of deaths in the U.S.
In other words, if 1 million people in the U.S. die in a typical year, then 1 million will die in 2020, not 1.25 million.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...bd8152518e992eb6f9d8034281dfdf4e&recip=693665

 

[stickygirl]

Actually, the study from Johns Hopkins indicates that there may be more than 250,000 deaths attributed to the China virus, but it has been an average year in terms of the number of deaths in the U.S.
In other words, if 1 million people in the U.S. die in a typical year, then 1 million will die in 2020, not 1.25 million.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...bd8152518e992eb6f9d8034281dfdf4e&recip=693665

I'd trust an Economist to analysis shit

"Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics" Their study was pulled because of inaccuracies but then Whooo "conspiracies" "dark left"

 

[adrina]

I'd trust an Economist to analysis shit

"Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics" Their study was pulled because of inaccuracies but then Whooo "conspiracies" "dark left"

Pretty much anything from PJ media should and can be taken with a grain of salt. Or less.

More irony from the fake news hypocrites.

 

[Champakian]

Still though, when we look at mortality and demographics we're seeing that a lot of the deaths had a high probability of death from almost any triggering health issue. I'm not debating the voracity of this particular piece but in the way we have gone about counting the thing in general. As far as economists and analyzing things go, the CBO is chock full of economists who pontificate upon all submitted political plans with a level of accuracy that falls well short of the good-morning weather girl on your local newscasts.




[CBO - Congressional Budget Office. I realized that some people might not know that.]

 

[Champakian]

Pretty much anything from PJ media should and can be taken with a grain of salt. Or less.

More irony from the fake news hypocrites.

Only if they do not include links to the source material because they don't want you to do your due diligence when reading the story. That would be the same for any website that reposts stories that fit their cultural-political narrative.

 

[KeithD]

Pretty much anything from PJ media should and can be taken with a grain of salt. Or less.

More irony from the fake news hypocrites.

Same can be said about anything posted by OldJourno.

 

[oggbashan]

The OP is a LIE:

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Excess-Deaths-Associated-with-COVID-19/xkkf-xrst/

Dated Sept 1 - picture is worse since then:

https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/09/01/como... of,is 200,000 more people than a normal year.

Looking at 2020 since March, the raw number of excess deaths is 200,000 more people than a normal year. When we try to understand that, COVID-19 is the most rational and likely explanation. If you don't believe it's COVID-19, try to pinpoint why this year has been so different than any other. Why would a new disease that kills people not be the cause?

 

[CornusKousa]

I'd trust an Economist to analysis shit

"Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics" Their study was pulled because of inaccuracies but then Whooo "conspiracies" "dark left"

So how do you feel about (R)'s shutting down (D) studies about guns??

That's all wonderful and progressive too right????

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I'll never understand partisanship, especially partisanship against your own self interest lol.

 

[icanhelp1]

The OP is a LIE:

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Excess-Deaths-Associated-with-COVID-19/xkkf-xrst/

Dated Sept 1 - picture is worse since then:

https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/09/01/como... of,is 200,000 more people than a normal year.

Looking at 2020 since March, the raw number of excess deaths is 200,000 more people than a normal year. When we try to understand that, COVID-19 is the most rational and likely explanation. If you don't believe it's COVID-19, try to pinpoint why this year has been so different than any other. Why would a new disease that kills people not be the cause?

The method for tallying up covid mortality is still inconclusive. I haven't seen a general standard for accuracy's sake or consistency within the medical field. I would think that there's a big difference between facilitating an early death and causing an early death.

If a person is suffering from cancer, is placed on chemo that individual will have a weakened immune system, If he contracts covid and dies is it the covid virus that killed him or his cancer? Let's say the same person is without cancer and contracts the disease and lives to sing another day. What column gets the checkmark for the death: COVID or CANCER. It would seem to me that a good number of covid deaths required an additional factor to make it lethal which skews the numbers.

 

[CornusKousa]

The method for tallying up covid mortality is still inconclusive.

That's the point...."progressives" like ogg don't want studies done, especially if they shit on the hype and hysteria around covid, which is their main goal.

Why? To help further enable their beloved totalitarian nanny state to take over everything.

 

[adrina]

Only if they do not include links to the source material because they don't want you to do your due diligence when reading the story. That would be the same for any website that reposts stories that fit their cultural-political narrative.

I used to go through and fact check the bullshit. But now after 80 million rabbit holes, I consider the source and let that determine what kind of attention I give it. Much like Trump, questionable news sources are now placed in the "assume it's a lie first" group.

 

[Tim2run]

*chuckle*



I just "know" it...

 

[oggbashan]

That's the point...."progressives" like ogg don't want studies done, especially if they shit on the hype and hysteria around covid, which is their main goal.

Why? To help further enable their beloved totalitarian nanny state to take over everything.

So the OFFICIAL data is currently inconclusive but 200,000 extra deaths as at September 1 isn't evidence?

You are lying.

Does it make a difference if recalculation makes the total as at Sept 1 190,000 or 210,000? That is still more deaths unlike the OP's ridiculous claim.

 

[coati]

Whatabout gun studies?
Whatabout Obama?
Whatabout Hillary's emails?
Benghazi!!!!!!

Damn, I'll be glad when the welfare right-wingers on this board no longer have an incompetent Satanist in the White House, but they will still list all their deflections for the rest of their miserable lives.

 

[Tim2run]

*chuckle*



A deflection decrying deflection.
The unawareness is simply stimulating...

 

[adrina]

AJ, once again, trying too hard to prove he is intelligent.

 

[Tim2run]

*chuckle*



Still just "knows" it...

 

[oggbashan]

No one dies because of Covid. That is just a ridiculous Democrat claim. Trump said it would go away so it must have.

The true believers cannot die of Covid. They just die of rage...

 

[adrina]

This is why your efforts at intellectualism fail, AJ. It was already disproved above. It's also been disproven in several articles about death tolls. This is what will always make it so you are a chucklehead instead of anyone that can derive genuine humor from a situation.

You may as well join the republican party where the only policy is "own teh libz". That's your level of depth.

 

[CornusKousa]

So the OFFICIAL data is currently inconclusive but 200,000 extra deaths as at September 1 isn't evidence?

You are lying.

I didn't make the claim that it wasn't, making you the only liar here.

I said anyone questioning that pisses you off because you're pro-totalitarianism because covid....THAT was the claim.

Does it make a difference if recalculation makes the total as at Sept 1 190,000 or 210,000? That is still more deaths unlike the OP's ridiculous claim.

You didn't even understand OP....LOL

OP's claim isn't that a recalculation and 20k figure adjustment makes a difference.

Try reading first.

 

[CornusKousa]

Pretty much anything from PJ media should and can be taken with a grain of salt. Or less.

More irony from the fake news hypocrites.

AJ, once again, trying too hard to prove he is intelligent.

A pigeon still strutting around on a chess board claiming victory with pathetic ad hom I see.

 

[oggbashan]

A pigeon still strutting around on a chess board claiming victory with pathetic ad hom I see.

Of course you mean Trump.

 

[Tim2run]

No one dies because of Covid. That is just a ridiculous Democrat claim. Trump said it would go away so it must have.

The true believers cannot die of Covid. They just die of rage...

Nobody has said that.
The basic point here is that the numbers are inflated
and the reasons are myriad, everything from increased payouts
to the pressure of the pandemic panic and the irrationality of mob reaction.
Of course, people die of SARS-CoV-2, but the point has been made, and ignored,
that it is very rare for very healthy people (e.g., I had it, the Trump family had it, etc.)
but a terminal diagnosis among that subset of people who could have succumbed to the flu,
a cold, AFib, pneumonia, and a plethora of other human conditions and ailments.
It becomes a diagnostic shortcut in many circumstances where it is a
contributing factor, but in the politicization of the outbreak, the
contribution is treated as causal in its totality.

What is sad is to see the disingenuous behavior towards people who consider
differing points of view and other sets of information and thought
as something to be vilified, impugned and denigrated.
Reminds me of the Dark Ages, the Inquisition,
the Jews of Nazi Germany...

It belies any notion that we are enlightened as a culture,
something outside of the normative affairs
of the race deemed "Human."

To borrow from another thread,
I treat your ideas with respect,
and I receive not even tolerance
in return (generic your).

It must be nice to be like Adrina and simply "know" everything including truth.

 

[coati]

Of course you mean Trump.

Amen, brother.

 

[oggbashan]

Tim2run?

You didn't read my links to the official figures, did you?

Whether the figures are slightly wrong, the picture is grim. 200,000, 250,000? More? Less?

It is still a massive number of EXCESS deaths compared with 2019 but you keep denying it.

Sad!