Will the Supreme Court finally defend religious liberty from pandemic tyrants?

[Counselor706]

As Justice Samuel Alito pointed out in a speech earlier this month, the pandemic has provided us a “constitutional stress test.” He worried that under the current circumstances,” religious liberty is fast becoming a disfavored right.”

The justice made clear that he wasn’t “diminishing the severity of the virus’ threat to public health” or even “saying anything” about whether lockdown rules were “good public policy.” But he was pointing out that “the pandemic has resulted in previously unimaginable restrictions on individual liberty” and that this had happened “by executive fiat rather than legislation.”

The unchecked growth of the administrative state and the rule of unaccountable “experts” long precede the appearance of the coronavirus. But what we have experienced in the last nine months is the sweeping away of legal norms that deserves more than a passing glance, even in the midst of a public emergency.

As in the Nevada case, the question before the courts is not whether states can take action to try to save lives in the midst of a public health emergency. Rather, it is whether politicians, emboldened by the conceit that they have now been given unlimited power by the panic over the pandemic, can exercise it not only in an arbitrary manner but also in a way that specifically discriminates against faith groups.

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[phrodeau]

In several states, religious organizations are given exemptions or less stringent numbers for allowed crowd size due to Covid19, and that is damned wrong.

 

[coati]

In several states, religious organizations are given exemptions or less stringent numbers for allowed crowd size due to Covid19, and that is damned wrong.

Hey, whadya talkin' about?

Religious organizations have a God-given right to infect the entire community. Why, Jesus himself wrote that into the Constitution while he was riding his pet dinosaur to a 2nd Amendment rally.

 

[YDB95]

Hey, whadya talkin' about?

Religious organizations have a God-given right to infect the entire community. Why, Jesus himself wrote that into the Constitution while he was riding his pet dinosaur to a 2nd Amendment rally.

No, it was Ronald Reagan who climbed to the top of Mount Rushmore and found it set in stone there. He was wearing a suit made from a Confederate flag at the time.

 

[phrodeau]

No, it was Ronald Reagan who climbed to the top of Mount Rushmore and found it set in stone there. He was wearing a suit made from a Confederate flag at the time.

You’re thinking of Cary Grant.

 

[MissMandy86]

They should tax religious institutions

 

[icanhelp1]

Hey, whadya talkin' about?

Religious organizations have a God-given right to infect the entire community. Why, Jesus himself wrote that into the Constitution while he was riding his pet dinosaur to a 2nd Amendment rally.

Religious institutions should have equal rights under the constitution. Atheist don't have more rights than people of faith. If you can open Home Depot then you can open a church.

Well being a card carrying marxist You really are ignorant of the constitution as well as our laws. Still trying to fix America, you know, the problem with America is; there are too many americans living here. You need to crawl back under your rock where all your other ANTIFA buddies are... AND BRUSH UP ON **DAS CAPITAL**!

 

[coati]

Most atheists have the sense to wear a fucking mask and pick up their Home Depot orders on curbside deliveries. They're not expecting God to filter out the viral particles in a crowded and poorly ventilated church building.

Also, I know religious people who are doing just fine during this pandemic participating in Zoom services and church meetings, just like all the other rational people.

 

[MissMandy86]

Religious institutions should have equal rights under the constitution. Atheist don't have more rights than people of faith. If you can open Home Depot then you can open a church.

Well being a card carrying marxist You really are ignorant of the constitution as well as our laws. Still trying to fix America, you know, the problem with America is; there are too many americans living here. You need to crawl back under your rock where all your other ANTIFA buddies are... AND BRUSH UP ON **DAS CAPITAL**!

Hope Depot is essential for repairs etc etc

churches are not ... I noticed you said churches and not religious intuitions because its always about your god
you live the way my god tells you to live or else

you can go and worship the invisible man in the sky online or on tv. churches are not essential

and before you get into the Constitution it says ...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

nobody has stopped you from worshiping your god and I would bet you rarely if ever went to church before covid but of course scream about it now

 

[icanhelp1]

Most atheists have the sense to wear a fucking mask and pick up their Home Depot orders on curbside deliveries. They're not expecting God to filter out the viral particles in a crowded and poorly ventilated church building.

Also, I know religious people who are doing just fine during this pandemic participating in Zoom services and church meetings, just like all the other rational people.

Most christians do wear masks! Your political superheros touting **lockdown for thee but not for me** is going over big in NY and CA. You keep believing these dirtbags give a shit about you!

 

[phrodeau]

Which verse in the Bible says that church attendance is required?

 

[Just4AFriend]

Most christians do wear masks! Your political superheros touting **lockdown for thee but not for me** is going over big in NY and CA. You keep believing these dirtbags give a shit about you!

You believe Trump, his family, or most of the GOP gives a shit about you or America??

Man! If God were omnipresent omniscient and all powerful then you could stay at home safe to worship

Now. Casino’s being open in Nevada ? Well there’s God and then there are taxes

 

[icanhelp1]

Hope Depot is essential for repairs etc etc

churches are not ... I noticed you said churches and not religious intuitions because its always about your god
you live the way my god tells you to live or else

you can go and worship the invisible man in the sky online or on tv. churches are not essential

and before you get into the Constitution it says ...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

nobody has stopped you from worshiping your god and I would bet you rarely if ever went to church before covid but of course scream about it now

Nice quote! now read the interpretation of the *ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE * and if that doesn't overwhelm that amoeba you call a brain move on to * FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE* * FREE SPEECH CLAUSE* and then* ASSEMBLY and PETITION*

 

[CornusKousa]

Hope Depot is essential for repairs etc etc

churches are not ...

The freedom of assymbly and freedom t exercise my religion are Constitutionally protected rights.

Going to Home Depot is not.

I noticed you said churches and not religious intuitions because its always about your god
you live the way my god tells you to live or else

you can go and worship the invisible man in the sky online or on tv. churches are not essential

and before you get into the Constitution it says ...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

Yes exactly...the free exercise.

And what is and is not essential, isn't up to you, it's not even up to POTUS.

Nor are civil rights optional.

nobody has stopped you from worshiping your god and I would bet you rarely if ever went to church before covid but of course scream about it now

That's exactly what you've stopped.

Doesn't matter what you bet....Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

And that's the way it's gonna be until you get 2/3 of congress or the states to say otherwise, best of luck with that.

 

[CornusKousa]

Which verse in the Bible says that church attendance is required?

LOL look at the little gestapo wannabe here.

Get bent and go read the 1st amendment...your side lost this argument in the 1770's.

FREE EXERCISE......not "Regulated exercise when Progressive leftist fee fees are at risk.".

 

[Counselor706]

The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday sided against California Gov. Gavin Newsom's restrictions on indoor religious services during the COVID-19 pandemic. The Supreme Court tossed out a decision from a Central District of California court that upheld Newsom's constraints on houses of worship.

"The September 2 order of the United States District Court for the Central District of California is vacated, and the case is remanded to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit with instructions to remand to the District Court for further consideration in light of Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn v. Cuomo," the Supreme Court stated, according to Fox News.

The justices, with no noted dissents, vacated the District Court ruling against the Pasadena-based Harvest Rock Church and Harvest International Ministry, which has several campuses and more than 160 churches across California. The Harvest Rock Church initially filed a lawsuit against the state in July when restrictions were implemented following a surge in coronavirus cases. The restrictions banned indoor singing and chanting activities.

The Supreme Court referenced its recent 5-4 ruling against restrictions on prayer services in New York. The Nov. 25 ruling that said New York could not enforce limits on attendance at churches and synagogues in coronavirus hot spots, which upset Gov. Andrew Cuomo. The Democratic governor of New York then accused the Supreme Court justices of politicizing COVID-19.

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