A Very MAJOR Reset Is In Order, and Quick!

[jaF0]

WASHINGTON (CN) — Drawing alarm at the D.C. Circuit, a lawyer for the United States argued Monday that the government has the power to kill its citizens without judicial oversight when state secrets are involved.

“Do you appreciate how extraordinary that proposition is?” U.S. Circuit Judge Patricia Millett asked Justice Department attorney Bradley Hinshelwood, paraphrasing his claim as giving the government the ability to “unilaterally decide to kill U.S. citizens.”


“Whether that’s in a parking lot in the United States or abroad in Syria, the government has claimed — for the first time ever in this case — that it has unfettered and unreviewable discretion to kill US citizens at will,” Plochocki said.



https://www.courthousenews.com/just...-unreviewable-discretion-to-kill-us-citizens/

 

[Sean]

The Patriot Act did this years ago. Us lefties screamed about it at the time.

 

[NozeKnowz]

Obama did it

Trump didnt

 

[SevMax2]

Bush started it, you moron!

That was directed at the nasal guy.

 

[LLCox]

NDAA which keeps getting extended states that you can be arrested and held indefinitely without a lawyer. trump let that ride... MAGA.

 

[Lazaran]

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Creeping Charlie aka Bot Boi is pissing him/herself right about now.

 

[FGB]

OH.

They are ASKING now?

Huh.

 

[Paul_Chance]

Obama Administration Asserts Right To Kill US Citizens

This right was asserted and utilized by the Obama Administration back in 2010.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

This is not a Dem / Repub issue. This is a 1%-er controlling Elites being Authoritarians VS. Average Americans issue.

This is about Country not Party.

 

[jaF0]

This is about Country not Party.

This is about correct and incorrect. Ethical and unethical. Moral and immoral.



(Where is the 'Moral majority?')


(Oh yeah, they support cold blooded murder of people they don't like.)

 

[BoyNextDoor]

This is about correct and incorrect. Ethical and unethical. Moral and immoral.



(Where is the 'Moral majority?')


(Oh yeah, they support cold blooded murder of people they don't like.)

This has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with legal and illegal.

 

[Paul_Chance]

I'd agree it's not strictly a party related issue, but it doesn't exist in a vacuum either.

One of the things that has always just been an irritant for the longest time for me has been the tendency of Democratic politicians being as ruthless as the Republicans, but pretending they're not.

The escalation of drone strikes under the Obama Administration, their "Kill List", being just one example of 200+ years of government ruthlessness.

At least in my book, you don't get to claim to be kinder and gentler while slaughtering thousands of innocent civilians and writing them off as collateral damage.

 

[Lazaran]

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Ummmm....

IF a "US citizen" has turned traitor and is plotting a mass casualty attack on the US or our allies, the institutions whose sworn duty is to protect the US from all enemies foreign and domestic must be empowered to eliminate the threat.

The only thing as bad as a hawk who thinks that lethal force is always the answer, is a dove who thinks lethal force is never the answer.

The real problem is the lack of trust in our institutions to judiciously authorize the use of lethal force.

I believe republican administration's policies have led to a deterioration of that trust far more than democrat administration's policies.

Trump has tried to destroy that trust.

SAD!!!

 

[KeithD]

One of the things that has always just been an irritant for the longest time for me has been the tendency of Democratic politicians being as ruthless as the Republicans, but pretending they're not.

Having worked in intelligence operations from the Lyndon Johnson into the Bill Clinton presidencies, I'd have to grant you that this is true.

 

[SevMax2]

I'd agree it's not strictly a party related issue, but it doesn't exist in a vacuum either.

One of the things that has always just been an irritant for the longest time for me has been the tendency of Democratic politicians being as ruthless as the Republicans, but pretending they're not.

The escalation of drone strikes under the Obama Administration, their "Kill List", being just one example of 200+ years of government ruthlessness.

At least in my book, you don't get to claim to be kinder and gentler while slaughtering thousands of innocent civilians and writing them off as collateral damage.

And the hawkish trend in both parties is heavily due to the excessive power of the military industrial complex and the national security and foreign policy establishment, including the frequently incompetent intelligence community. Both Obama and Trump came into the White House with a desire to end the illegal war of aggression in Iraq, not to mention Afghanistan, the “graveyard of empires.” Instead, two wars became four under Obama, including Syria and Libya, and threatened to become five under Trump with Iran or North Korea. That’s not even counting our disgusting role in supporting the Saudi genocide in Yemen.

It’s because these Presidents feel intimidated and impressed by the same establishment that frankly bungled its intelligence in Iraq and Syria. And add to that the deception exposed in the Afghanistan Papers, and you get the idea. We’ve been sold war as a bill of goods and that has rightfully called the honesty and competence of the national security and foreign policy establishment into doubt. When it recently came out that the chemical attack in Syria was a hoax covered up by British intelligence, well, that only showed that the fraud isn’t limited to the American elite, either.