November 4th: Elect Biden—Then Defeat Him

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The Bernie Organizers Who Want to Elect Biden—Then Defeat Him

A grassroots coalition is fighting like hell to build power for the left. Securing a Democratic win this presidential election is a necessary detour on that path.

They are under no illusions about the odds of a Biden presidency suddenly pivoting to enact a bold progressive agenda. Instead, grassroots organizers on the left who found an ideological home in the Sanders campaign, as well as a sizable number of former Sanders operatives themselves, are all now in the position of fighting like hell to elect their own opponent.

On November 4, organizers will wake up and see whether their ground game paid off; whether, in the days or weeks that may be required to count every vote, they won or lost. But the campaign is also bigger than one election: No matter what, the outreach, deep organizing, and local conversations about stakes and power they will have engaged in are precisely the kind of turnout strategy that Sanders tried to build but that organizers rightly observed will take longer than the course of one campaign cycle. That work has to penetrate deeper, pull more people in, and construct a coalition that strategizes and fights in all the battles to come. In the end, for many on the left, this moment, which has been billed as a once-in-a-lifetime event and a singular showdown between good and evil, is really about the essentially timeless work of building power.


Looking forward to November 4th so the real work can begin.
 
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And they couldn't have done this in 2016 because????

The far left is ALMOST as guilty as the far right for the current state of the nation.

SAD!!!
 
I'm just hoping that with all of the warmongering, the lies about bounties, the push to stay in Afghanistan, the constant push to topple Maduro and install an American puppet, Trump's own policy of antagonizing Putin's ally in Iran (some Russian puppet he turned out to be, provoking an ally of Russia), the constant push for trade war with China (hypocritically, given his own secret Chinese bank account), we don't end up being turned into radioactive ash in World War Three. The only upside to Hillary losing is that her "no fly zone" in Syria policy didn't get put into effect, as it could have led to nuclear apocalypse.

Both parties are seemingly keen to move the hands closer to midnight on the Doomsday Clock. Trump with his zeal to punish Iran at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Israel, Biden with his determination to support Nazi militias in Ukraine and back the Al Qaeda/ISIS insurgents in Syria to topple Assad and install their caliphate instead. Both parties would likely continue to back the Saudi genocide in Yemen, too. Both parties are led by war criminals who seem to hate whistleblowers and support illegal NSA surveillance and metadata collection.

Too bad that we don't have any anti-war candidates. I held my nose and voted for Biden, but at times, that decision still has me wringing my hands for fear that it will lead to a nuclear holocaust. Then again, a vote for Trump would have had the same effect and Jorgensen believes in the "free market fairy" to magically make everything better. I wasn't going to risk voting for a write-in with no pledged electors. At least Biden isn't as hawkish as Hillary, though I wonder about Harris.
 
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How extraordinary that our choices have basically come down to between a Jim Crow sympathizer who fought against busing in the Senate and authored the Crime Bill and a real-estate swindler who once advocated the lynching of five young black men for what was later discovered not to be their crime!
 
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Millennial Russian who doesn't know the history of Biden's position on busing and the crime bill.
 
Not sure why Lazybones is expecting me to read his posts. He's on ignore. He's wasting his time.
 
Clearly, I live rent-free inside his head. Why else does every post of mine get a response from him? Who knows what insane, McCarthyist bullshit accusation he's making now. Hopefully, he's moved on from that stupid claim that I'm some kind of Russian, when I've been on this site since 2005 and actually have published stories...in English!

My West Virginia coal miner grandfather would be very shocked to learn that I was a Russian. :rolleyes:
 
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And they couldn't have done this in 2016 because????
Because they were too busy trying to stop a bold regressive agenda to focus on building a bold progressive one.

It's like trying to grow a crop of plants while the greenhouse is being trashed by a coked up rhinoceros.
 
Because they were too busy trying to stop a bold regressive agenda to focus on building a bold progressive one.

It's like trying to grow a crop of plants while the greenhouse is being trashed by a coked up rhinoceros.

Yeah, how did that work out???

Maybe try building the greenhouse first, before you try growing plants in it.
 
As Jonathan Pie notes, Hillary offered no substantial change. Well, other than possible nuclear holocaust.
 
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SevMax2 and Putin are scared shitless by democrats.

They should be.

We stand up to dictators and tyrants.

That's why we oppose Trump.
 
The Democrats will get their butts thoroughly kicked this year, but I hope they purge their batshit wing and recover, or some new party rises in time to gain seats in 2022. We need a real opposition force to limit the batshit bible thumping side of the Republicans.
 
Biden and God only knows else is going to Jail.

I'm telling you that Briefcase is turning out to be a dirty bomb of political and criminal fallout whom else in Government going to get splattered remains to be seen.

People are staring to sing!
 
Biden and God only knows else is going to Jail.

I'm telling you that Briefcase is turning out to be a dirty bomb of political and criminal fallout whom else in Government going to get splattered remains to be seen.

People are staring to sing!

just like hillary, right?

*yawn*
 
Biden and God only knows else is going to Jail.

I'm telling you that Briefcase is turning out to be a dirty bomb of political and criminal fallout whom else in Government going to get splattered remains to be seen.

People are staring to sing!

Drunk posting this early on a Sunday???

WWJS

SAD!!!
 
To get a progressive Government we will have to reorganize the DNC. THE DNC pushed Hilary on us and now Biden, both tools of the Establishment DNC.

Perhaps we need to start a Eleanor Project to attack the Despotic Nasty Corportists? :)
 
To get a progressive Government we will have to reorganize the DNC. THE DNC pushed Hilary on us and now Biden, both tools of the Establishment DNC.

Perhaps we need to start a Eleanor Project to attack the Despotic Nasty Corportists? :)


"We" will have to reorganize the DNC???

And you are???
 
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SevMax2 and Putin are scared shitless by democrats.

They should be.

We stand up to dictators and tyrants.

That's why we oppose Trump.


Could you please clarify for our LIT audience what tyrants and dictators Obama stood up to? Can’t wait to read that narrative. Just so ya know drawing pretty lines in the sand doesn’t equate to standing up to anything. :D
 
Already defeated himself

Joe defeated himself in the most important arena of all. He did that years ago when he sold out to gain power and wealth. He is a very defeated man and like all of the power mongers who promise foolish people the world and deliver nothing he is now at the end of the line and will die a sad and broken shell of a man.
 
just like hillary, right?

*yawn*


Well, I am thankful to Hillary for a couple of things, one is, I have a thorough understanding of the terms** obstruction of justice ** and ** BLEACH-BIT ** and secondly I can now recite 18 US code 1924 statute by heart, thank you Hillary. :D
 
To get a progressive Government we will have to reorganize the DNC. THE DNC pushed Hilary on us and now Biden, both tools of the Establishment DNC.

Perhaps we need to start a Eleanor Project to attack the Despotic Nasty Corportists? :)

The Federal Government should really prosecute both major parties under RICO statutes, but that’s never going to happen, so I would recommend voting both parties out of existence and starving both for cash by refusing donations to the parties themselves. If all insurgent conservatives vote Libertarian after 2020 and all progressives vote Green, the parties will be shells of their old selves.

Probably won’t happen in one cycle and likely will require a lot of Republicans and Democrats to expire of old age along the way. And neoliberals will have to be given up until they see reason. Same thing with neocons and the GOP. Older voters are too fixated on party affiliation instead of issues and ideology.
 
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