Trump’s growing Hispanic support shows cracks in Dems plans

[Counselor706]

A minor panic emerged from the Joe Biden camp after polls suggested that Hispanic voters in Florida are less supportive of their nominee than expected. Their confusion comes from believing in the idea that voters’ racial or ethnic backgrounds are the most important things about them. Combine that with incorrect ideas about what issues actually matter to people, and you have a campaign and a party that seriously misunderstands the electorate.

The alternative would be — and should be — to treat all Americans simply as Americans. Most citizens, whatever their backgrounds, want the same things: peace, prosperity, safety, and protection of their rights. Race and ethnicity are relevant, even now, but they are not everything.

The woke elites who run the Biden campaign, whatever their race, view America and its problems differently than the median voters of the various ethnic cohorts from which they came. Surrounded only by others like them, they assume the rest of America, or at least by the rest of the voters who might consider voting Democrat, mirror their ideas.

Meanwhile, conservatives should avoid falling into the same trap. If the current polling data out of Florida is accurate, it shows many people are already moving away from Democrats’ racially divisive tactics.

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[YDB95]

Hispanic voters in Florida are less supportive of their nominee than expected

Hispanic voters in Florida are mostly Cubans and have always leaned heavily Republican. Nice try, though.

 

[WillJ8787]

Biden can't win them based on two tenants:

Catholics won't vote for a pro-capitalism candidate.

Cuban's won't vote for anyone even remotely connected to social democracy or progressive democracy due to Castro...

It's funny cause Castro and Trump share the strong tyrant mentality but they don't see it that way.

 

[YDB95]

It's funny cause Castro and Trump share the strong tyrant mentality but they don't see it that way.

Oh, they (or in most cases at this point, their parents) were just fine with tyranny under Battista. It's just a matter of which brand.

 

[FescueFan]

Hispanic voters in Florida are mostly Cubans and have always leaned heavily Republican. Nice try, though.

Cuban's won't vote for anyone even remotely connected to social democracy or progressive democracy due to Castro...

Neither will many Koreans or Hmong for the same reason.

They came to the USA to escape "Progressive" politics.

It's funny cause Castro and Trump share the strong tyrant mentality but they don't see it that way.

Because that's imaginary.

And Castro/Kim weren't neo-liberals like Trump, they're "progressives" like you.

 

[FescueFan]

Oh, they (or in most cases at this point, their parents) were just fine with tyranny under Battista. It's just a matter of which brand.

Battista was a "progressive" too

Batista, supported by the Democratic Socialist Coalition which included Julio Antonio Mella's Communist Party, defeated Grau in the first presidential election under the new Cuban constitution in the 1940 election, and served a four-year term as President of Cuba,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

 

[YDB95]

Battista was a "progressive" too


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

I see you don't even read your own sources:

Back in power, and receiving financial, military, and logistical support from the United States government, Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.

Opposition to civil liberties, opposition to organised labor, supporting the rich at everyone else's expense...that ain't "progressive".

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I see you don't even read your own sources:



Opposition to civil liberties, opposition to organised labor, supporting the rich at everyone else's expense...that ain't "progressive".

Nope, he just makes shit up....

 

[phrodeau]

After Trump’s response to Hurricane Maria, Puerto Ricans who moved to Florida aren’t likely to vote for him, even the Republican ones.

 

[FescueFan]

I see you don't even read your own sources:



Opposition to civil liberties, opposition to organised labor, supporting the rich at everyone else's expense...that ain't "progressive".

That's how "Progress" has gone every time it's been tried.

Progressive (D)'s are highly opposed civil liberties now, opposition to any labor they don't approve of or control and supporting the rich at everyone else's expense. They even want to riot at everyone's expense, progressive (D)'s are ENRAGED that Trump isn't giving them disaster relief after they encouraged and allowed rioting to destroy their cities. LOL

That's why the people from the nations these progressives ran,

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/54/9f/4f/549f4f2ef46a45505d96d51f34c171f7.jpg

Came fleeing to America and they, their children and grandchildren are absolutely REJECTING the (D)'s radical shift left and adoption of "progressive" political ideology.

They've seen "progress" and how not progressive and totally horrifying it actually is in real world application.

Maybe the dumbass rich white kids of the USA need to fucking find out, we should suspend all law on the left coast and let them just Venezuela themselves.

Nope, he just makes shit up....

Keep those blinders on comrade!!

 

[LLCox]

Hate to burst your bubble but it is only the CUBAN Hispanics.

 

[Rightguide]

Hate to burst your bubble but it is only the CUBAN Hispanics.

Which means what in Florida?

 

[FescueFan]

Hate to burst your bubble but it is only the CUBAN Hispanics.

Nope...Venezuelans and several other groups who have fled "progress" in south and central America over the years are also not very big fans of "progress" either.

Gee.....I can't imagine why anyone would be so against PROGRESS??

I just can't put my finger on why they're all so fuckin' scared of progressing into a more equitable future for everyone???

The utopia is upon us!! There is nothing to worry about right???

https://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Socialists.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/53/6a/b7/536ab73188e22772599cc35d9794e069.jpghttps://www.translatingcuba.com/images/ivan/1368262989_1-fidel-hugo-chavez.jpeg

 

[LLCox]

It's the Cubans because trump is keeping a lid on relations with Cuba.

 

[LLCox]

Which means what in Florida?

trump will take Miami.

 

[YDB95]

Which means what in Florida?

It means Biden is still slightly ahead there. But he won't need it if he wins PA, MI, WI and AZ, where he is ahead by substantial margins.

Progressive (D)'s are highly opposed civil liberties now, opposition to any labor they don't approve of or control and supporting the rich at everyone else's expense. They even want to riot at everyone's expense, progressive (D)'s are ENRAGED that Trump isn't giving them disaster relief after they encouraged and allowed rioting to destroy their cities. LOL

WOW.
The Republicans have spent decades fighting to curtail civil liberties, to vilify unions, and more than anything else, to support the rich at everyone's expense. Yet you look at the progressives and that is what you see? You ought to teach a class on projection.

 

[WillJ8787]

Neither will many Koreans or Hmong for the same reason.

They came to the USA to escape "Progressive" politics.



Because that's imaginary.

And Castro/Kim weren't neo-liberals like Trump, they're "progressives" like you.

Lol...they seem to keep supporting the authoritarian facists...neo-facist in Trump's case. Well, he is an aspiring one so far. Hopefully, he isn't successful.

And your 50% wrong...the vote with Koreans and other groups falls right along the 50/50 line. You don't speak for your own very well.

 

[WillJ8787]

Nope...Venezuelans and several other groups who have fled "progress" in south and central America over the years are also not very big fans of "progress" either.

Gee.....I can't imagine why anyone would be so against PROGRESS??

I just can't put my finger on why they're all so fuckin' scared of progressing into a more equitable future for everyone???

The utopia is upon us!! There is nothing to worry about right???

https://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Socialists.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/53/6a/b7/536ab73188e22772599cc35d9794e069.jpghttps://www.translatingcuba.com/images/ivan/1368262989_1-fidel-hugo-chavez.jpeg

Wait, I see Speare bucket in those photo's.

Golly gee whiz

 

[WillJ8787]

It means Biden is still slightly ahead there. But he won't need it if he wins PA, MI, WI and AZ, where he is ahead by substantial margins.




WOW.
The Republicans have spent decades fighting to curtail civil liberties, to vilify unions, and more than anything else, to support the rich at everyone's expense. Yet you look at the progressives and that is what you see? You ought to teach a class on projection.

Don't waste your breath on Grassman,

He really is just making up stuff that he wants​...it isn't correct history.

Do you all realize the amount of support the USA has put behind South Korea, that we fought there, Americans died for South Koreans.

He just isn't correct...he has personal animosity due to stuff in his past which he is blaming Democrats for...the boy needs some help.

 

[YDB95]

Do you all realize the amount of support the USA has put behind South Korea, that we fought there, Americans died for South Koreans.

I feel dumb for not noticing before, but the whining about Koreans and comparing all progressives to communists should have tipped me off. Now I know who he is.

 

[FescueFan]

WOW.
The Republicans have spent decades fighting to curtail civil liberties,

Such as???

to vilify unions,

Public sector unions....be honest.

And there is a good reason for that, the bad cop problem the "progressives" have pointed out is a much bigger problem in long time dark blue leftist controlled places where it's IMPOSSIBLE to fire terrible cops because of the public sector union policies THEY support.

I wonder why they have shitty cop problems "progressives" just can't seem to figure it out.

and more than anything else, to support the rich at everyone's expense.

Another wealth envy boo hoo

Letting people keep more of their money/wealth/property isn't at the expense of anyone. In the real world the rich pay nearly all the taxes and society as a whole including the poor benefit at the "rich" peoples expense.

You're backwards man.

Yet you look at the progressives and that is what you see? You ought to teach a class on projection.

You mean the people who want to strip me of several of my civil rights, are doing so actively outside the law as we speak in several states/cities and promise to take all my shit and then "regulate" me out of the ability to get it back??

Yea....they are the baddies.

Trump wants me to keep doing bidnizz, keep investing in other businesses, making money, doing cool shit that I love doing AND keep my property....including the machine guns and HEDP!

So yea...I'm with all the other refugees of "progress" and principled liberals voting Trump because the (D)'s abandoning of liberalism for "progress" really is scary.

We've seen where "Progress" went, it's a seared into our family history as the Nazi holocaust is for nearly all Jewish families....the fresh face lift and minor tweaks ain't fooling those of us who have a history with it. Just a new shade of lipstick on the same ol' pig.

 

[FescueFan]

Lol...they seem to keep supporting the authoritarian facists...neo-facist in Trump's case.

Trump is a neo-liberal.

Not shocking a radical leftist can't tell the difference.

And the only politicians engaging in actual authoritarianism in the USA have all be (D) mayors/governors....because "covid".

Facts matter.

Don't waste your breath on Grassman,

He really is just making up stuff that he wants​...it isn't correct history.

Where am I wrong??

Do you all realize the amount of support the USA has put behind South Korea, that we fought there, Americans died for South Koreans.

Yea, fighting progressives.

The same progressives that saw many Korean refugees winding up in the USA, my father being one of them.

He just isn't correct...he has personal animosity due to stuff in his past which he is blaming Democrats for...the boy needs some help.

What am I wrong about??

And no I am rejecting the Democrats (life long democrat voter) specifically for the ideological values they are adopting, because they are directly responsible for the mass murder of over 100 million people including most of my family .

You progressives do mass murder better than anyone, by a long shot.

 

[WillJ8787]

"And no I am rejecting the Democrats (life long democrat voter) specifically for the ideological values they are adopting, because they are directly responsible for the mass murder of over 100 million people including most of my family ."

Well, there it is.

100million? It's a made up number and doesn't correlate to anything.

 

[phrodeau]

Were they taxed to death?

 

[YDB95]

Were they taxed to death?

Technically no. They just didn't pay their taxes and the jackbooted thugs from the IRS came banging down their door and slaughtered them. (You've probably heard his past alts claim that happens, yes?)