The army of pearl-clutching schoolmarms

[Tombescent]

There seems to be an epidemic on this site of people who read a story, find out it contains elements they don't find sexy, and then immediately get on their high horse about how morally repugnant the person who wrote a fictional scenario that they, personally, wouldn't like in real life must be. This is especially ridiculous in the BDSM and NonCon categories, where one would otherwise expect people to have a firmer understanding of the boundaries between fantasy and reality.

In case any of them are reading this I have a message for you: you are exactly the kind of moralistic, prudish busybodies that you imagine are your enemies. They use the same justifications as you. They think they same things as you. You are no different from people who think all BDSM is abuse, or that erotica should be banned, or sex toys should be illegal. You're a judgmental prude. Own it. Stop lying to yourself.

I can't wrap my mind around the kind of malignant self-centeredness that would make someone think their personal preferences in erotica were somehow backed up by morality, or that writing a fictional account of something was somehow an endorsement of that thing. It's genuinely pathetic.

Although I have experienced this personally that's not what this is about. The more disgusting examples of this I've found on other people's stories. People need to get over themselves because it's, as I said, pathetic.

 

[KeithD]

The morality police have passed through the discussion board a few times in the last few months too. It happens.

 

[curiouschattycouple]

Someone called me out for a sexual position that required a degree of contortion they believed to be impossible. First, it can be done, and second, if it can't, it is fiction so...

Also I write hotwife stuff, and that gets more hate than anything.

Don't take it personal.

 

[Salacious_Scribe]

You can't please all the people all the time.

I take perverse pleasure in bad comments on my stories. I give a warning at the start of them and still get comments complaining about the content. My all time favorite was comment was in two parts. One comment on Ch 01 the other on Ch 02. It was only a two parter so I often wonder what I would have gotten from him for part 3. Yes he posted it under his screen name.

Ch 01
DROPED IT HALF WAY ^*!
by XXXXXXX on 07/26/2019
WASTE OF TIME.'

Ch 02
WASTE OF TIME ^*!
by XXXXXXX on 07/26/2019
SAME AS CH. 01:

If Ch 1 was a waste of time and you didn't finish it why read and comment on Ch 2?

Got another good one on Ch 01 of the same story. It's in incest and about a mother son. Someone complained that it was in the wrong category. So mother son sex stories don't belong in INCEST? Alrighty then.

 

[HollyLoriAnnalee]

I got this one recently:

"Anonymous10 days ago
I can't help but wonder what could have happened to someone to make them so twisted they feel that vomit and urine - things normal people find distasteful - are erotic. Good god."

I'm sure it caused a low score, but I don't care about scores, so I'm good. I don't put warnings on my stories as a choice, and my first story quickly disintegrates into something pretty extreme, so it's half on me. But 'normal people' is a good one. Hey, I ain't normal, pal. I write erotic fiction. Sue me.

I took a little joy from that one.

 

[Saffyre]

He sympathises with a rapist.

I received this comment last month. The story was about two women hired by the brother of a young woman who had been raped by rich boy Brad and his three friends. Apparently this person thinks two women punishing a rapist is wrong and taking revenge on them is the right thing to do.


The Vixen Agency: Julie
I'm sure Brads rich family
by Anonymous user on 07/13/2020
will enable him to trace the vicious abusive women who have seriously hurt him and exact appropriate similar treatment on them......

Saffyre, you are rather anally obsessed in a rather disturbing way.


He seems to think I’m anally obsessed in a rather “disturbing way” because I had the women do the same to Brad as he’d done to the innocent young woman. You have to wonder about a man who seems to think a man sexually violating a woman is an okay thing to do.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

...
Ch 01
DROPED IT HALF WAY ^*!
by XXXXXXX on 07/26/2019
WASTE OF TIME.'

Ch 02
WASTE OF TIME ^*!
by XXXXXXX on 07/26/2019
SAME AS CH. 01:

If Ch 1 was a waste of time and you didn't finish it why read and comment on Ch 2?
...

I had one get all the way up to Chapter 7 like that. There have been two or three chapters now where she's told me it's too horrible and she won't read another chapter. I've told her several times that if she doesn't like it now, it's not going to get any better. I bet she reads Chapter 8 when it's posted. I guess she really enjoys hating it.

 

[SimonDoom]

I do not understand people who come to an erotic story website to indulge their own kinky fantasies and then moralize about the fantasies of others. But there it is.

 

[yibala2]

I do not understand people who come to an erotic story website to indulge their own kinky fantasies and then moralize about the fantasies of others. But there it is.

From what we know about sex and judgment, I would guess that some, if not most of these examples posted are underhanded compliments.

Shame and chastisement are turn-ons for a lot of people. How many of these commenters are (consciously or unconsciously) aroused by the same kink they claim disgusts them?

 

[HollyLoriAnnalee]

Something just struck me about my comment, and maybe others.

Maybe it's... a turn-on? Maybe for these repressed people it's really, like, personally hot for them to post some shit like this on Lit, then read the filthy stuff anyway. If that's the case, then I'm cool with that.

I know I'm a nerd, but it reminds me of Angela Martin from the Office. She's a total caricature, but she would definitely do something like that.

 

[SimonDoom]

Something just struck me about my comment, and maybe others.

Maybe it's... a turn-on? Maybe for these repressed people it's really, like, personally hot for them to post some shit like this on Lit, then read the filthy stuff anyway. If that's the case, then I'm cool with that.

I know I'm a nerd, but it reminds me of Angela Martin from the Office. She's a total caricature, but she would definitely do something like that.

You may be on to something.

I'm always surprised that the Loving Wives/BTB crowd seems to spend so much time reading stories they profess to hate. You wonder if somehow they do get off to stories about cuckoldry even though they claim to despise them and their authors. Maybe.

Even erotica writers -- many of them, anyway -- seem to have difficulty with the concept that what drives a lot of erotica is the exploration of the forbidden, the naughty, even the bad parts of us. They compartmentalize. It's OK for them to indulge their dark sides, but not others theirs.

That's part of why I thought your story was refreshing, in its own way. It delves into areas that are not, strictly speaking, erotic for me. But it's so unapologetically over the top, even, for many people, disgusting, that I admired where you were going with it. I think it's perfectly OK for erotica to explore our dark corners, and it's odd to me that so many get so squicked by that. But you have to wonder if some of the criticism is a matter of "they doth protest too much."

 

[Ava_T_Argent]

These kinds of comments say much more about the reader than the writer. I get that there are things on the site that I would personally find repugnant and disgusting, maybe even morally reprehensible, NSFL.

I also get that I don't have to choose to read them. I get that it's fiction. So I'm not in a position to complain about it or denigrate the authors.

The only concession I would make to readers' rancor is that the site could do a lot better job of labeling content. The fact that stories are limited to a single category makes it possible/likely that readers might feel "bait and switched" by any given story. A lot of people will feel sucker-punched if they're in the middle of a Group story that suddenly brings in the family dog. The onus is on each author to provide disclaimers or warnings. It would be much better for everyone if readers could make more informed decisions.

But still, berating authors is not helpful to anyone and won't lead to a better experience.

 

[Salacious_Scribe]

From what we know about sex and judgment, I would guess that some, if not most of these examples posted are underhanded compliments.

Shame and chastisement are turn-ons for a lot of people. How many of these commenters are (consciously or unconsciously) aroused by the same kink they claim disgusts them?

I would say about 98% of the trolls that infest LW. They all sit in their studio apartments, and fap to cheating wife porn before they write the alimony check to the woman that left them for a successful man.

 

[Salacious_Scribe]

These kinds of comments say much more about the reader than the writer. I get that there are things on the site that I would personally find repugnant and disgusting, maybe even morally reprehensible, NSFL.

I also get that I don't have to choose to read them. I get that it's fiction. So I'm not in a position to complain about it or denigrate the authors.

The only concession I would make to readers' rancor is that the site could do a lot better job of labeling content. The fact that stories are limited to a single category makes it possible/likely that readers might feel "bait and switched" by any given story. A lot of people will feel sucker-punched if they're in the middle of a Group story that suddenly brings in the family dog. The onus is on each author to provide disclaimers or warnings. It would be much better for everyone if readers could make more informed decisions.

But still, berating authors is not helpful to anyone and won't lead to a better experience.

Well family dog won't happen. But I was surprised by a few stories that delved into scat, which makes me vomit. Those should be in a speerate category and carry a warning.

This is why every story I post has an adult content warning and lists the sex acts that may offend people.

 

[Ava_T_Argent]

It's funny, I was aiming for hyperbole with my comment about the dog, but then I went looking for a rule about such a thing and couldn't actually find one. I would have thought it would be easier to find the "hard no" issues.

Did I miss something on the submission guidelines page(s)?

 

[SimonDoom]

The only concession I would make to readers' rancor is that the site could do a lot better job of labeling content. The fact that stories are limited to a single category makes it possible/likely that readers might feel "bait and switched" by any given story. A lot of people will feel sucker-punched if they're in the middle of a Group story that suddenly brings in the family dog. The onus is on each author to provide disclaimers or warnings. It would be much better for everyone if readers could make more informed decisions.

But still, berating authors is not helpful to anyone and won't lead to a better experience.

Concerning dogs: this Site has a no-bestiality rule. You can't write about sex with dogs here.

This Site actually DOES have a number of tools authors can use to "warn" readers, and many authors do warn readers, but often to limited effect. Tags, for example, are viewable by clicking on an icon at the top of the first page of the story. An author can provide a disclaimer.

But warnings often prove fruitless, from authors' point of view, in eliminating nasty comments. Some readers seem perversely determined to read stories they're warned about anyway, and to criticize and down-vote them. An author can only do so much.

 

[KeithD]

I don't think that those negatively commenting on stories with subject matter the commenter doesn't want to see posted to the site (the reason to keep commenting on stories if you don't like that type of story) have to have read the story to open it and post comments to it. So, it's really something about stories they've opened, not necessarily stories they've read.

 

[Ava_T_Argent]

Concerning dogs: this Site has a no-bestiality rule. You can't write about sex with dogs here.

I'm quite glad for this rule, but what puzzles me is that I've actively gone looking for it and couldn't seem to find it. But I'm always misplacing things in IRL too, so maybe it's just me.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

I'm quite glad for this rule, but what puzzles me is that I've actively gone looking for it and couldn't seem to find it. But I'm always misplacing things in IRL too, so maybe it's just me.

It's here: https://literotica.com/subguide.shtml

The site's organization is just rather poor. You can get to it through the FAQ, which contains guidelines for submitting a story, which in turn references a Writer's Guidelines page.

 

[Ava_T_Argent]

Thanks, I knew I had read that somewhere, but my mind must have ellipsed that out of habit. Or I'm getting early onset dementia. Neither case would surprise me

 

[Scareltt]

I’m giving that story 5 stars!

I got this one recently:

"Anonymous10 days ago
I can't help but wonder what could have happened to someone to make them so twisted they feel that vomit and urine - things normal people find distasteful - are erotic. Good god."

I'm sure it caused a low score, but I don't care about scores, so I'm good. I don't put warnings on my stories as a choice, and my first story quickly disintegrates into something pretty extreme, so it's half on me. But 'normal people' is a good one. Hey, I ain't normal, pal. I write erotic fiction. Sue me.

I took a little joy from that one.

People stink.. people who post anonymously annoy me, plus they stink!

I no longer is the word “suck” as a bad thing.. maybe it’s because I enjoy doing it..

 

[gunhilltrain]

From what we know about sex and judgment, I would guess that some, if not most of these examples posted are underhanded compliments.

Shame and chastisement are turn-ons for a lot of people. How many of these commenters are (consciously or unconsciously) aroused by the same kink they claim disgusts them?

I wouldn't be surprised; I've seen a few cases of that in real life. Fascination and disgust, like love and hate, are not quite opposites. Both require an emotional reaction. Indifference is really the complete opposite.

 

[SimonDoom]

People stink....

I'm sure there's quite a fetish following for that.

For instance, I like the smell of sweat on a woman after she's been doing vigorous exercise, like running.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I'm sure there's quite a fetish following for that.

For instance, I like the smell of sweat on a woman after she's been doing vigorous exercise, like running.

"Neat," said Suzie, lacing up her joggers. "No shower for me, then."

 

[RetroFan]

I always shake my head when I see readers getting so upset about themes in stories when it is made very clear what the story is about.

For example, if I wrote a serious Romance story about a young GI who returns from World War 2 and falls in love with the attractive widow of a fellow soldier in his platoon who didn't make it home, and when it reaches the bedroom it without warning degenerates into Hucow fetishes, then I could understand readers making negative comments about this. But if I wrote a fetish story called 'Horace Humps A Hucow' then its pretty obvious what this story entails, so if you aren't into Hucows why read it in the first place?