Can you see beyond Covid?

[Jada59]

I can't. I already wrote a lockdown story. I think one is enough.

I've been reading more than ever. Some of the books are ones that my daughter bought in high school, so not my thing. But I am still forcing myself to at least try to read the books I have before buying more new ones.

But reading them makes me sad. I read one set in the PNW, Canada. Reading the city names, like Chilliwack, brings back pleasant memories of salt air. And then I think... I will probably never go there again.

I've been reading of people wearing no masks, going to bowling alleys, pool halls, nightclubs, restaurants, etc. And then I think... I remember! But those things are no longer.

I am currently reading a book about Stalin's children. It's a true story but not a nice one. Yet I can relate. That's sad.

I feel stuck. I can't seem to get beyond the endless days of meals, exercise and not a lot more. Unless I decide to go out, and all the hoops that going out involves. *sigh*

This is sucking the life and the imagination out of me. Does anyone else feel the same?

 

[UsuallyPresent]

Lincoln told the story of the wise man who came up with the one universal saying - "And this, too, shall pass." Applies to COVID as well as all the good things in life.


I refuse to let it get me down. There's enough shit out there, this is just another blip to me.


I'm reading a lot, too - but I'm borrowing books online. Finding good ones is a challenge, admittedly, but the pleasure of digging out something interesting is IMO quite worth it - your mileage may vary.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

“In Siena, where more than half the inhabitants died of the plague, work was abandoned on the great cathedral, planned to be the largest in the world, and never resumed, owing to loss of workers and master masons and “the melancholy and grief” of the survivors. The cathedral’s truncated transept still stands in permanent witness to the sweep of death’s scythe. Agnolo di Tura, a chronicler of Siena, recorded the fear of contagion that froze every other instinct. 'Father abandoned child, wife husband, one brother another,' he wrote, 'for this plague seemed to strike through the breath and sight. And so they died. And no one could be found to bury the dead for money or friendship.… And I, Angolo di Tura, called the Fat, buried my five children with my own hands, and so did many others likewise.”

― Barbara W. Tuchman, A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century​

I understand your feelings, Jada, truly. Yet, as Scarlett noted, the sun will come up tomorrow. Can I see what it looks like on the other side of COVID-19? Of course not, no more than somebody in the midst of The Great Mortality could see beyond his or her own period of misery and fear. Yet the sun rose for them, too. Flowers bloomed, kittens were born, lovers loved. So be it for us as well.

Hugs, madam, hugs.

 

[KeithD]

I'm not sure I have time left to see much beyond Covid, no. I'm not discontent with that, since I've already been most everywhere, have seen more than enough, and have a lot of protective backstopping. But I do worry about long-term (or forever) limiting on my granddaughter's lives. We've been a highly mobile and exploratory family.

 

[Jada59]

Lincoln told the story of the wise man who came up with the one universal saying - "And this, too, shall pass." Applies to COVID as well as all the good things in life.


I refuse to let it get me down. There's enough shit out there, this is just another blip to me.


I'm reading a lot, too - but I'm borrowing books online. Finding good ones is a challenge, admittedly, but the pleasure of digging out something interesting is IMO quite worth it - your mileage may vary.

I know the saying, but it doesn't seem to me that it will pass. Not in the Seattle area anyway.

 

[Jada59]

I understand your feelings, Jada, truly. Yet, as Scarlett noted, the sun will come up tomorrow. Can I see what it looks like on the other side of COVID-19? Of course not, no more than somebody in the midst of The Great Mortality could see beyond his or her own period of misery and fear. Yet the sun rose for them, too. Flowers bloomed, kittens were born, lovers loved. So be it for us as well.

Hugs, madam, hugs.

Thanks!

 

[Jada59]

I'm not sure I have time left to see much beyond Covid, no. I'm not discontent with that, since I've already been most everywhere, have seen more than enough, and have a lot of protective backstopping. But I do worry about long-term (or forever) limiting on my granddaughter's lives. We've been a highly mobile and exploratory family.

Thanks!

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Well, seeing as how I 'saw it' BEFORE Covid (see 'Lesbian Christmas Tree' story posted 30 Aug 2019, not to mention the well prior story that actually depicts the ACTUAL release of the virus... LOL)

...Yeah, sure I can beyond it.

Don't anyone ask me though, right?

Besides, I might not tell you anyway. But yes I do 'know.' I know what is planned, I know what is already in train, and I can make good guesses at the likely actual outcomes too.

Great question/thread though, by the OP. So, congrats on it. You're thinking ahead. And you ARE thinking straight, as well. And this is a great question that you posed. Everyone needs to give some consideration to it.

 

[Salacious_Scribe]

To quote a great song...

It's the end of the world as we know it

and I feel fine.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Naaah. Being a ray of positivity here, nope, it annoys me rather than gets me down. Spanish flu, Hong Kong flu, swine flu. This has all happened before and it was grim but people did what they had to do, sucked it up and kept on going. I’ve been reading up on the Spanish flu and that was away and worse than this. So no, it doesn’t get me down at all. It’s an opportunity to write more and focus on a few things I might not otherwise have done

 

[Omenainen]

I’m not bothered on the day-to-day level. I live mostly in my head anyway so not much has changed. On the longer scale it’s frustrating to not to be able to plan for anything, traveling on holiday for example. I was concerned at first but now that this drags on and on I just can’t keep in that panicked “sky is gonna fall” -mode.

 

[SisterJezabel]

I've been trying to practice mindfulness evey day, just to remind myself that I can't live in the past or future, but only the here and now. My kids are interstate with locked borders- they might as well be in a different country, but we communicate online.

These times will pass, even if it is like a kidney stone! It's not unusual for people to be feeling down and depressed. Find someone you can talk to if you need to Jada- you are not alone. Hugs.

 

[Brutal_One]

There’s enough to see and do

There is no doubt that Covid is a quite unusual virus in the impact it has had on man as a social animal. The social distancing has been the worst for everyone and the impact on employment and education in particular has been heartbreaking all round.

But for everyone there is still a lot to see and do. You all have beautiful open spaces and spots of nature and the virus is less of an issue in these open spaces.

Humans are built to adapt and endure. To love and to learn. To write and paint. To sing and dance. To drink and be merry (or get rat arsed take your pick lol).

Live your life folks with 2 fingers to Covid.

Brutal One

 

[Jada59]

Thanks everyone!

 

[ChloeTzang]

Thanks everyone!

Exudes huggies - it’s the social isolating that gets everyone down, we are social entities and mostly we miss all that interaction. That’s the hard part. Some of us are more easily adaptable to isolating than others - I joke that where I live, it’s a way of life for a lot of people so it comes easy. But where it isn’t, it’s much harder to deal with, and here there’s also a lot of resistance to isolating for a whole range of reasons.

The main thing is to talk about it, and just interact with people you enjoy interacting with, and online is whole way to do that if you have serious concerns about exposure or your local govt has a lockdown in place. And here is a great place - we’re all chatty and we interact all the time

 

[sally_sparrow]

I can't. I already wrote a lockdown story. I think one is enough.

I've been reading more than ever. Some of the books are ones that my daughter bought in high school, so not my thing. But I am still forcing myself to at least try to read the books I have before buying more new ones.

But reading them makes me sad. I read one set in the PNW, Canada. Reading the city names, like Chilliwack, brings back pleasant memories of salt air. And then I think... I will probably never go there again.

I've been reading of people wearing no masks, going to bowling alleys, pool halls, nightclubs, restaurants, etc. And then I think... I remember! But those things are no longer.

I am currently reading a book about Stalin's children. It's a true story but not a nice one. Yet I can relate. That's sad.

I feel stuck. I can't seem to get beyond the endless days of meals, exercise and not a lot more. Unless I decide to go out, and all the hoops that going out involves. *sigh*

This is sucking the life and the imagination out of me. Does anyone else feel the same?

How do you feel about going out into nature? I have found that even though I'm not going out to typical places, getting out for a bike ride, or a walk through the woods really brightens my spirits... Maybe read something positive or motivational... I am always looking to learn something knew and have taken a few online classes for personal growth. Having those to look forward to helps pass the time. This will pass.

 

[RunningJib]

In a word "No."

No, I can't see past COVID.

Two many idiots don't take this seriously. Too many morons see wearing a mask as a political statement or an infringement of their personal freedoms. Perhaps its me, a math and science major, but we aren't taking Dr. Fauci and the science community seriously.

I am frighten by "45." Trump has lied,provided inconsistent messages and promoted half-truths to take the blame off of him and his administration. While discussing Climate Change, he stated, "I'm not a scientist." However, when it comes to COVID, he's advocated hydroxychloroquine. This is insane. Thank God the Federal reserve is an independent body and has the courage to provide corrective measures for the American public and our economy.


I am troubled by the current process to approve vaccines. The process has been sped up and I am concerned that the effectiveness may be limited, or, detrimental to too many.

While I am looking forward to the national election, all I can say is Biden the best that the Democrats can provide?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

It's only been a short time that this virus has been around compared to other pandemics that weren't called pandemics. I have lived for seven decades and a little more. Can I see an end of covid? Sure. Will I be alive at the end of this 'world ending event?' Don't know but I hope so.

I had started 'social distancing' before it had a name. I have lived all over the world and visited more place around the world. I have lived in more states in the US than most people get to visit. I know I'm at the end of my live and I'm just happy to live what little time I have left.

The only thing that I think will not help us through this, is the people who make this about politics rather than about the lives of the people.

I have survived 5 other world ending events in my life time, I will survive this one too. In fact anyone born on or before 1950 has also. Chloe named a couple, can anyone else name some more?

Hugs to you Jada and it's too bad I'm in Texas or I would come visit to try and cheer you up. I would be wearing a mask so as not to cause any undo stress.

 

[_Lynn_]

Because of the virus, and all the restrictions when it first hit, I've had medical procedures put on hold. I wouldn't care if it meant delaying simple things like check-ups. It's the AFib that gets to me. My main symptom is struggling to get enough air to breathe right. My last cardioversion was at the beginning of the virus. I'm still waiting to complete the tests/scans for the ablation I need.

So can I see beyond COVID? Not yet. Not until I feel good again.

 

[stickygirl]

............

 

[LWulf]

There's two levels of questions in one, that I see here.
One level asks:
Will the sun rise again tomorrow? Will the Earth continue to spin? Will children laugh and play in their yards?

Yes, they will.

Another level asks:
Will things go back to normal? Will fear and paranoia abate? Will silly masks become permanent fashion? Will fear mongering cease in their support of a political agenda?

No. I fear my cousin called it when she said "this is how the world will be from now on" (she's college brain-washed, through and through, libitard).

The cold hard facts are that people will die. This shouldn't be alarming as people have died since people started being born. Sometimes people die earlier than they should, and that's a shame.

I don't believe in any "God will save us!", nor do I believe in the political inverse "Technology will save us!"
I believe in nature, and nature finds a balance, despite all the manhandling attempts to control nature. In that balance, sometimes more people die than we would normally like. It's nice to believe that some agency, either supreme deity or medically supreme, will save the day.

I believe in "that which doesn't kill us, only makes us stronger" despite the political agendas to market (personally feared) mandated cures that will be required to any who seek employment. (think this extremest? Consider public schooling that mandates inoculations for illnesses that have been for all intents and purposes, ended, many decades ago). Inoculations that weaken the body's natural immune response. Consider the military that mandates inoculations despite personal wishes not to be "immunized")

Children will laugh and play in their yards, once more, but they will be mandated to wear masks and report anyone who doesn't (that's what good little fascists do). Social distancing will become the norm, until population control lowers.

No, I can't see beyond Co-Vid. I only see in others the eternal fear of CoVid, and pandemics in our future and foolhardy beliefs of extremists that we need to be immunized from nature.

"This is how the world will be from now on."

 

[MelissaBaby]

I know people are suffering, and I don't mean to be dismissive or glib, but this Covid "lockdown"?

Well, I can go outside if and when I want, take a walk in the park or go sit by the river.

The food is pretty damn good.

I can sleep in if I want or stay up late.

I can watch whatever I want on television or play music as loud as I like.

I don't wear a uniform.

Hell, I am even getting regular dick!

More than two million Americans are in prison.

 

[naughtyrusguy]

Yes, Covid is a terrible thing but not so terrible like the press says. Flu (Influenza) is more dangerous but we stopped being afraid of it. It's a good idea to follow the medical recommendations but... here, in Russia, everybody is against the lockdown and tried to violate them. The consequences followed. It's prohibitted to be in mass locations unmasked but most people are unmasked... until the fines followed. The people don't understand anything without the fines. Now 80% people go masked although everybody yelled they were unuseful, the government wants to put a collar or monitor them... although they forget they are monitored via smart phones but everybody uses them.
All in all, in Russia we goes masked in the subway and in the malls.
The frontiers are closed and Oh my God how much people on our resorts. As soon as Turkey's border was open and 3500+ plane tickets were sold... Really bad.

[Politics and trolling prohibited per our AH Forum Rules] - admin

 

[AH_Mod]

Please avoid straying into the political, as there is a forum section for political discussions. Mentions of specific politicians, parties, candidates, and policies are crossing the line into pure politics.

If it continues, I'll have to start moving or removing those posts.

 

[BelleCanzuto]

Please avoid straying into the political, as there is a forum section for political discussions. Mentions of specific politicians, parties, candidates, and policies are crossing the line into pure politics.

If it continues, I'll have to start moving or removing those posts.

Calling someone a "libtard"; ok or not?