It reveals the hatred and racism in another person's heart and compels another person to abide with their actions. It made me angry when the Mayor of NYC told me why I had to be offended my the Statue of Theodore Roosevelt and that its removal was required. What makes his interpretation more valid than mine? The racism in his heart. That hatred should not give him, or anyone the authority to remove it. Things like this are ineffective and immature acts.
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Jeebus you're stupid. It's like you make zero attempt to understand what you're talking about.
No, YOU'RE stupid, LOL. Geez
See what I mean?
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Your tolerance is intolerable, fuzzy thinking heh!
But that's true in a way. I have a thick skin and I'm not easily impacted by inanimate objects. I had visited the North Carolina State Capitol and I've viewed the confederate monuments there. As with most monuments, I found them to be thought provoking; nothing more, nothing less. They inspired me to consider our past in light of the strides we have made to the future. To me, they did not serve to "glorify" anything. I would say the main impact was mostly optimism because of the progress we've made. It also made me consider whether we've made enough progress. The monuments provide a tangible reference point for me. I'm mature and intelligent to know that our society, nation and culture are evolving. And, hiding history doesn't change it.
So, what is the problem with the Theodore Roosevelt statue? Apparently, some view it as white supremacy because Roosevelt is physically higher that the Native and the African. I don't get that. If the President were not on a horse, would that make it better? Is it a problem that only men are depicted? I interpret the horse as symbolic of leadership accorded through the office of the Presidency. The Native and the African are beautiful esthetic renderings, strong and dignified. I think it is a nice statue.
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Have you even seen the statue in question???
If you have, and you can't see how obviously offensive and demeaning it is to black and native Americans, while elevating white Americans above them, you are either thick as a brick or a sociopath.
My guess is, your just a racist masquerading as someone who is all about freedom of expression and acceptance of other people's sensibilities.
This is an attempt to DARVO those who are actually pained by the statues continued presence in the public square.
You would probably be OK with a statue of Jeffrey Epstein or Prince Andrew riding a horse, flanked by two underage girls. Of course, if someone complained it was offensive, you would immediately label them a prude.
Oh, boy. That last paragraph kind of undermines your point.
I don't know how to say this without offending you, But that last paragraph is an attempt to project your perspective on to me. Its absurd. You are equating Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew with Theodore Roosevelt. I don't think that's your poin, is it?
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Of course you think it's a nice statue!
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6f7e576c83eebb7ac0fc8f66fb48cc57/tenor.gif?itemid=9746305
It glorifies colonizer conquest — with a noble White man signifying as the tamer of savages and primitives through that conquest, leading them to civilization — and you, my good White cis male compadre, are the intended recipient of alllllllll its legacy. (A legacy that includes how First Peoples and Black Americans were actually viewed and treated during the age of Roozy's tenure as Man Of The Century, but that smoke is really tough to handle for people whose history lessons began and ended through Little Golden Books, so we won't be getting into that.)
It was made to make you feel good. It was made to honor an order of things and affirm an image of that order into the brains of minds like yours who will never be able to see the perspective of living from either of the individuals flanking Roozy's side. That's what colonizing does. The legacy of honoring that colonization without introspection into the damage it's done to this country has begat through generations a great many fucked up things that we are dealing with now. Not even just now, we have been dealing with for the longest time. And they keep getting worse because The Work that needs to be done wasn't getting done. Putting statues like these in their proper place is part of The Work.
Now, since you're in your fifth or sixth cup of feeling aggrieved over the winds of change, the silver lining for you is that they're not going to destroy it, they're just moving it. Wherever they're moving it to for possible future display, you can still truck your ass on over here to come see it. And maybe jerk off in front it when the guards aren't looking.
Happy now, buddy?
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he's as racist as he is stupid.
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Lorazepam is a phycotic. You're exactly correct!! PAM insist on projection as his way of cancelling your opinion, to virtue signal, to establish that he is the ultimate social justice warrior projecting "I LOVE THE NEGRO MORE THAN YOU, SEE HOW GOOD I AM" for his idiotic defense of tearing down monuments that have been part of our culture for decades. The monuments belong to the people and if a monument is to be removed then we have laws that can legislate how to legally move or destroy them. To some people It's not about a monument being offensive, it's more about having a false sense of purpose and destroying anything and everything that people disagree with or find offensive. This is a dangerous precedence and no one can predict where it stops. We are now at the door step of the National Anthem, the Lincoln Memorial, Washington monument. People taking the law in their own hands is anarchy. If I don't like Lorazepam because he offends me then If I see his car parked on the street I should have the right to call for a tow truck and remove it, why, because he offends me and his car represent him! People should not conflate empathy or the lack of with anarchy. I challenge anyone to identify the Floyd murder with anything that's going on now. The message has morphed into the destruction of our republican form of government and a transition into Marxism. What happened to civility and the protection of our history and culture.
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You don't have to worry about offending me, I don't take you seriously enough for that to happen.
If you can't recognize when someone is using an extreme example to highlight how tone deaf your original point was, then there truly is no hope for you.
You may in fact be utterly clueless and delusional about the offensive nature of the Theodore Roosevelt statue and it being allowed to stand in the public square, but that only changes your title from a fraud to an idiot.
My money is still on you being a racist fraud masquerading as someone interested in freedom of expression and choice, but I'm willing to entertain the possibility that you are also an idiot.
How is that for showing a willingness to compromise on my part.
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FUZZYNUTS has his own problems. I sent a detail to CANNUK country to tear down the the statue of Boris and Natasha.
FUZZYNUTS has his own problems. I sent a detail to CANNUK country to tear down the the statue of Boris and Natasha.
*Chuckles*,
Keeping up with his normal misunderstanding of facts, ( even if it is an attempt an humour) Moosylvaina was located in the great state of Minnesota....not in Canada.
Close ican, but once again wrong....
https://rockyandbullwinkle.fandom.com/wiki/Moosylvania_(Location)
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Teddy Roosevelt was not a racist, was never perceived as a racist. Even the left wing WaPo understand this, notwithstanding the communist propaganda behind the removal of his statue:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b79574-bb53-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b79574-bb53-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html
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I really like talking with you, but you're such a fucking jerk. Hateful, offensive bitch, but a helluva cook.Of course you think it's a nice statue!
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6f7e576c83eebb7ac0fc8f66fb48cc57/tenor.gif?itemid=9746305
It glorifies colonizer conquest — with a noble White man signifying as the tamer of savages and primitives through that conquest, leading them to civilization — and you, my good White cis male compadre, are the intended recipient of alllllllll its legacy. (A legacy that includes how First Peoples and Black Americans were actually viewed and treated during the age of Roozy's tenure as Man Of The Century, but that smoke is really tough to handle for people whose history lessons began and ended through Little Golden Books, so we won't be getting into that.)
It was made to make you feel good. It was made to honor an order of things and affirm an image of that order into the brains of minds like yours who will never be able to see the perspective of living from either of the individuals flanking Roozy's side. That's what colonizing does. The legacy of honoring that colonization without introspection into the damage it's done to this country has begat through generations a great many fucked up things that we are dealing with now. Not even just now, we have been dealing with for the longest time. And they keep getting worse because The Work that needs to be done wasn't getting done. Putting statues like these in their proper place is part of The Work.
Now, since you're in your fifth or sixth cup of feeling aggrieved over the winds of change, the silver lining for you is that they're not going to destroy it, they're just moving it. Wherever they're moving it to for possible future display, you can still truck your ass on over here to come see it. And maybe jerk off in front it when the guards aren't looking.
Happy now, buddy?
https://45.media.tumblr.com/1a7773ae588d7beefe1451d57aed294b/tumblr_o10ljcUEPP1rwfctbo1_1280.gif
I understand your point about colonization. Can you envision an historical scenario where colonization was NOT going to occur? Be it Columbus or Roosevelt? What would the world be like if it had not occurred? You say I'm heir to a legacy that is several generations old. So is Barack Obama.What should we do about it? Reparations?
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There are many problems with the Cancel Culture including but not limited to:
- selective in determining who or what gets "cancelled" (obviously forgiving or ignoring those who cater to Leftist principles)
- no written, agreed upon set of rules except "mob rules" (if the mob caters to Leftist principles)
- inconsistent, random punishment
- no appeals process for non-Leftist catering targets
- unknown judges and determiners of who or what gets cancelled
- eliminates and silences free speech
- creates an atmosphere of fear, hatred, and anger
- increases the power and influence of ignorant, uninformed, and biased participants
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you poor dumb lying sonofabitch. al franken was the first to get canceled.
And also, it accomplishes nothing positive with respect to meaningful tangible change, and may in fact, have the unintended consequence of making matters worse.
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