What do you call 57 Buffalo cops resigning?

[Bad_Egg]

Why would police officers use force to control protesters in a stressful situation?

i'm trying to get my head around why the other cops and firefighters are supporting this; they're claiming it's what they've been ordered to do. if that's the case, there's a drastic change needed in how america trains its cops right across the board.

i kind of understand the thinking (at a long stretch) as in some past jobs I had we were taught to respond to customers in a certain way if they got rude or aggressive, but if we did and the customer complained. then you can bet the bosses would publicly side with the customer (even if they told us privately we were doing the right thing). fortunately for me, i have my own strict code of what is and what isn't acceptable and know how to treat people with respect while maintaining my own right (and the rights of my staff) for the same.

my point is, do they feel this is how they've been trained and then, in performing their duties they're being publicly hung out to dry?

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[jaF0]

if that's the case, there's a drastic change needed in how america trains its cops right across the board.

Spend a few days at a police academy. It'll open your eyes.

 

[cinnefille]

i kind of understand the thinking (at a long stretch) as in some past jobs I had we were taught to respond to customers in a certain way if they got rude or aggressive,

but if we did and the customer complained. then you can bet the bosses would publicly side with the customer (even if they told us privately we were doing the right thing).

true actually.

Indeed, maybe they resigned -- not out of some principle
but to cover their backs, knowing that more litigation might be underway.

What I've seen on TV was a lot of self-serving kneeling, virtue signaling and finger-pointing at low-level employees from the likes of Cuomo, DeBlasio & several Police chiefs.
The sheriff in charge during the Parkland school shooting did the same.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Spend a few days at a police academy. It'll open your eyes.

Spend a few days as a African American and you will see the training cops get is garbage.

 

[icanhelp1]

Spend a few days as a African American and you will see the training cops get is garbage.

Spend a few months without cops and you can watch your life turn to garbage.

 

[Saint_Ann]

57 Buffalo Cops

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[jaF0]

Maybe they'll move to Springfield.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Spend a few months without cops and you can watch your life turn to garbage.

No one I know calls the cops unless it is to pick up a body. So I have been living fine without them.

 

[Gamine67]

Spend a few days at a police academy. It'll open your eyes.

I watched Police Academy on Hulu, and I had my eyes open, so hells bells, you’re right.

 

[KeithD]

57 Buffalo Cops

<great band name>

Wouldn't that actually have to be an orchestra, not a band?

 

[wabbitfoot]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=92438843#post92438843

 

[FlowersForFun]

Spend a few days as a African American and you will see the training cops get is garbage.

Race baiters gotta race bait......push that lie to further racial divides.

Spend a few months without cops and you can watch your life turn to garbage.

OMG I WANT THEM TO DO IT!! NYPD?? Minneapolis, Chicago, LA, Oakland/SF/San Jose etc. ALL need to totally get rid of police.......absolutely ZERO rule of law.

(D)'s want to turn Manhattan into Mogadishu??

These mother fuckers DESERVE it.

 

[cinnefille]

i kind of understand the thinking (at a long stretch) as in some past jobs I had we were taught to respond to customers in a certain way if they got rude or aggressive, but if we did and the customer complained.

then you can bet the bosses would publicly side with the customer (even if they told us privately we were doing the right thing).

my point is, do they feel this is how they've been trained and then, in performing their duties they're being publicly hung out to dry?

Hats down for Buffalo Police Commissioner Byron Lockwood, tho.
He's standing by his men.

"My officers have been through, and continue to work through, one of the most difficult times in our history. I stand by the men and women of the Buffalo Police Department and I'm proud of how they have handled the vast majority of the situations and encounters that they have faced."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...hoved-peace-activist-75-expected-CHARGED.html


It's new, because what I've seen on TV were mostly authorities in high positions, kneeling and virtue signaling and vilifying the lowest-paid cops.
Duuh.. Who's responsible for funding training refreshers or post-restraint debriefings?

 

[hogjack]

in some past jobs I had we were taught to respond to customers in a certain way if they got rude or aggressive, but if we did and the customer complained. then you can bet the bosses would publicly side with the customer (even if they told us privately we were doing the right thing). fortunately for me, i have my own strict code of what is and what isn't acceptable and know how to treat people with respect while maintaining my own right (and the rights of my staff) for the same.

Working in customer service must be so scary and challenging! I mean, any day could be your last. We get goosepimples when you tell these incredible tales! Danger lurking at every corner as you faced life and death decisions. Maintaining composure like you did is truly a feat.

Your bravery is commendable. How did you make handle dealing with those difficult customers? At what point did your instincts combined with training in the field just take over? Is there any way you can use your experiences to help law enforcement and firefighters? Please, they need you!

 

[hogjack]

So I have been living fine without them.

Please. Opt out for life. Law enforcement resources should be used for more important business than yours.

 

[cinnefille]

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Winston Churchill

Yes, it's kind of hillarious how people immediately gobbled down massmedia's narrative about ALL 57 cops,
without any second quessing:

Check this out:



"Two cops have since spoken out saying that claims they resigned in solidarity with McCabe and Torgalski are untrue.

'We quit because our union said [they] aren't legally backing us anymore. So why would we stand on a line for the City with no legal backing if something [were to] happen? Has nothing to do with us supporting,' said another.

'Some of them probably resigned because they support the officer,' said another cop. 'But, for many of us, that's not true."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...hoved-peace-activist-75-expected-CHARGED.html

 

[RobDownSouth]

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Winston Churchill

Speaking of lies, let's check in with the Ishmael Fact Checking division of QuoteInvestigator.com to get a ruling on Ishmael's purported quote....oh dear...
https://i.imgur.com/o4nxZaR.png

Here's the link

"Bold strategy, Cotton! Ishmael lies about a quote about lies. He's playing three-dimensional chess linguistically tonight!"

 

[Misshotndeep]

Please. Opt out for life. Law enforcement resources should be used for more important business than yours.

The black community has been policing it's self for centuries. Most of us are to afraid to call the cops. It's what your brothers, uncles and cousins are for.

I don't think you get the real and historically backed fear minority communities have of the police. I have said it before and I will say it again, the brutality you are seeing all over social media is only new to white people. It's not even new! They police did the same thing during the peaceful civil rights movement protest.
Talk about sticking your head in the sand. SMH
IF the police actually adhered to the laws they are trying to enforce then I think they would be a wonderful thing. So far, they have done more destruction than the looters. They have demoralized, abused and enraged the whole of the nation.
I am not saying there are not good cops. I am sure a few exist. I am just saying there are not a lot of them.

 

[cinnefille]

The black community has been policing it's self for centuries. Most of us are to afraid to call the cops. It's what your brothers, uncles and cousins are for.

I don't think you get the real and historically backed fear minority communities have of the police. I have said it before and I will say it again, the brutality you are seeing all over social media is only new to white people. It's not even new! They police did the same thing during the peaceful civil rights movement protest.
Talk about sticking your head in the sand. SMH
IF the police actually adhered to the laws they are trying to enforce then I think they would be a wonderful thing. So far, they have done more destruction than the looters. They have demoralized, abused and enraged the whole of the nation.
I am not saying there are not good cops. I am sure a few exist. I am just saying there are not a lot of them.

Believe me, many of us are starting to get it.

While the arson and lootings convinced me that the AA community has a truancy problem within it's midst, those two lynchings convinced me that innocent Blacks ARE a primary target of psychopaths and racist cops.

But guys, please add some nuance to your comments.
You make it sound as if the majority of cops are pos.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Believe me, many of us are starting to get it.

While the arson and lootings convinced me that the AA community has a truancy problem within it's midst, those two lynchings convinced me that innocent Blacks ARE a primary target of psychopaths and racist cops.

But guys, please add some nuance to your comments.
You make it sound as if the majority of cops are pos.

Now imagine that the fear and anger building for centuries and generations. And there you have a large portion of the African American population. One week living in some places down south makes the shooting at Kent State look like a Sunday stroll in the park.

 

[colddiesel]

On the evidence of the video alone (there may be more) this was an unfortunate accident.

Old guy should not have defied the cops. Cops in these ops are required to advance in close formation pushing the crowd ahead of them.

Old guy falls cracked his head.

More senior cop takes charge and calls medics.

Putting cops on unpaid leave was an over - reaction - charging them was stupid.

The 57 resigned the special group because their Union advised them they were exposing themselves to prosecutions.

Police chief was right to commend his men.

Sure police are all too frequently brutal, but not this time. Those two cops have no case to answer and will not suffer any penalty - nor should they.

 

[Tigersman]

So true. That's why so many Democrats push for socialism and communism.

Dems aren't pushing for communism but Trumps supporters are if they keep supporting Trump. I would not be the least bit surprised to see a Russian flag hoisted over the White House if Trump is re-elected. His private meetings with Putin, an ex-KGB intelligence officer who most likely speaks English fluently plus read and write it says a lot about where Trump is getting his stupid ideas of leadership from.

 

[jaF0]

On the evidence of this post alone, I'm a complete and total moon.

Not just that post.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

Yeah just get rid of the cops. It'll all work out.

 

[SpeareChucker]

The Buffalo Police Department and the officers who have resigned from a particular task (but not as police officers) have made a mess of public relations.

To 'resign' because your colleagues are being investigated is an example of police wanting to be above the law and to act with impunity.

The 57 should be dismissed for bringing the Buffalo police department into disrepute.

The black mayor still has confidence in them as well as fear
of provoking their union to a full-on strike to support
ITS officers, part of the Democrat base of
public union sector support (dues).