"Proggressives" and the Wuhan Flu.

Why should any US ally support any new US war?

What do we gain from the blood our citizens shed?
 
Why should any US ally support any new US war?

What do we gain from the blood our citizens shed?

Why should the US keep stopping mass murder and genocide in Europe when Europe won't stop it for themselves??

What do we gain from protecting Europe from itself on a fairly regular basis when most of the nations in it clearly don't care to exist? :confused:

I say fuck it....let Russia and ISIS fight for colonizing it, or the next psycho lefty to decides to start killing people by the truck load in the name of the greater good.
 
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That's not what your policies have been. If it had been:

Why Korea? Vietnam? Iraq 1 and 2? Afghanistan?

Your allies are still pissed off that we have sent men and equipment to support US forces and for what? Contempt?

Australians are still annoyed about Vietnam. The official US history seems to ignore that Australians were ever there. They're even more annoyed than they are with the British about the loss of Australian forces at Gallipoli and the surrender of Singapore.

Did we keep France?


And what Conager said...
Japan even bombed us and we gave it back!
 
Why should the US keep stopping mass murder and genocide in Europe when Europe won't stop it for themselves??

What do we gain from protecting Europe from itself on a fairly regular basis when most of the nations in it clearly don't care to exist? :confused:

I say fuck it....let Russia and ISIS fight for colonizing it, or the next psycho lefty to decides to start killing people by the truck load in the name of the greater good.

*chuckle*


Fire up the ovens!
Neville Chamberlain was so cool...
so very erudite/statesman-like...
so utterly reasonable...
proto-Obama...


Proper English leadership keeping the world at Peace since 1918!
 
Did we keep France?


And what Conager said...
Japan even bombed us and we gave it back!

We should have kept West Germany. You can't really begrudge the Soviet carving off their portion of Germany. They certainly paid for it in blood and treasure.

Giving that huge airbase to the Philippines fairly recently was fair. They did more than their fair share of keeping ToJo occupied, especially with limited support and resources.

Japan should be shipping free Mitsubishis to Hawaiians as reparations.

I don't think it would have been unreasonableat all for us to slice off perhaps the South of France and maybe some beaches in Spain at various points in history.

We should just correct that surveying error across the bottom of Arizona and claim Rocky Point and well we're at it just tell Mexico that they need to vacate Baja California. We could use the coastline.

Panama is of no value without our canal and we gave it to them. Why?

Why the hell do we let Canadians keep Canada? We could roll over them in about 20 minutes.

I mean I've never met a decent Canadian except maybe Chilly Willy and Lance. . .Lance is half American. He's sort of the Winston Churchill of Canada. That's probably what makes him tolerable.
 
*chuckle*


Fire up the ovens!
Neville Chamberlain was so cool...
so very erudite/statesman-like...
so utterly reasonable...
proto-Obama...


Proper English leadership keeping the world at Peace since 1918!

Neville Chamberlain knew that Britain was not ready for war in 1938 particularly as France would do nothing.

He bought time for rearmament. Without that time we would have lost the Battle of Britain. As it was we nearly lost that Battle of Britain because so much of the RAF was lost defending France whose politicians would not defend themselves.

He didn't have the backing of the French, the country, or the House of Commons to give an ultimatum to Germany at Munich.

If Japan hadn't attacked Pearl Harbor, and if Germany hadn't declared war on the US, the US would have acted in 1941 exactly like Chamberlain had done in 1938. The US wasn't ready in 1941. Britain wasn't ready in 1938.

We weren't ready in 1940 either but thanks to Chamberlain we had two years to build up our armaments.
 
It's kind of hard to argue with a guy who was actually there at the time and probably has owned and read every history book every printed.

Do you say that with the benefit of hindsight or do you think Neville Chamberlain had that in mind at the time?

If sounds a little bit about how people talk about Trump playing three-dimensional chess when I'm pretty sure he doesn't know much about checkers. He does have a lot of kinetic energy though and it's often better to move then do nothing.
 
the U.S.A is the MOST ENVIED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD......do they care .no

FYP.

Your absolutely correct though we don't care. We don't need to care. The main reason that people are resentful of the United States is because of our generosity.

If you want someone to care about and respect you, provide opportunities for them to serve you because that makes them invested in the relationship. When you simply provide for someone else who does nothing in return it always breeds resentment. Psychology 101.

I don't know what it is that we provided to you specifically but obviously it's something or you wouldn't be so resentful of people who don't live where you live. Even if we haven't recently lent you any ships the mere fact that we prop up things like the UN and the WHO and feed restless natives all over the world means that less money has to come out of your Treasury to support the sort of things that do prop up you indolent ass, meaning there's more of other people's money available to pay for Council Houses or whatever it is that's propping enough your lifestyle up to the grander rhat you would like to think you earned.
 
We are pretty piss-poor empire builders. Not only do we neither take earned, by right of conquest land and spoils of war, we also don't exact tribute or attempt to recover our expenditure.

Keeping conquered lands is specifically prohibited under the Geneva Conventions, of which the United States is a signatory.

If you prefer countries that flout international norms and retain conquered territories, I suggest you look into the possibility of emigrating to Israel.

Who knows, maybe BotanyBoy's newly-retconned "Halbjude wife" will sponsor you for citizenship.
 
Keeping conquered lands is specifically prohibited under the Geneva Conventions, of which the United States is a signatory.

Lol, as if that stopped another country when they recently "annexed" Crimea...
 
Keeping conquered lands is specifically prohibited under the Geneva Conventions, of which the United States is a signatory.

If you prefer countries that flout international norms and retain conquered territories, I suggest you look into the possibility of emigrating to Israel.

Who knows, maybe BotanyBoy's newly-retconned "Halbjude wife" will sponsor you for citizenship.

So?

Why did the "Empire-building" US become a signatory. We do we choose to abide by it, when.few others do?

What could anyone do is we decided to unleash nukes anytime anyone argued with us?

Your deed in Houston (as well as the pretend one you hold as joint tenants with rights of survivorship with your pretend wife in Canada) has a chain of title. At some point, it more than likely says, "obtained by right of conquest."

I live in the Gadsden Purchase. Where did Mexico get it so that they could sell it to the United States? Where did Spain get title to it, before Mexico seized it from them?

We are not talking recent, post Geneva Convention US history. We are talking about the vainglorious history of US military adventures since we decided to ignore our constitutional moorings designed to keep us out of foreign alliances and entanglements.

Nobody is going to do anything when China decides to fully abrogate their fifty-year agreement with Hongkong. They will just seize it.
 
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Who knows, maybe BotanyBoy's newly-retconned "Halbjude wife" will sponsor you for citizenship.

Do you try to cram as many lies into everything you post??

To the surprise of virtually no one, a thread about the flu virus has three of Lit's top virologists as the top posters.

https://i.imgur.com/tJOAXnC.jpg

Never claimed to be a virologist....but I understand you have compulsive need pack as much dishonesty as possible into everything you post.
 
Calls everyone a liar while lying about lefties hating civil rights.
 
It's kind of hard to argue with a guy who was actually there at the time and probably has owned and read every history book every printed.

Do you say that with the benefit of hindsight or do you think Neville Chamberlain had that in mind at the time?

If sounds a little bit about how people talk about Trump playing three-dimensional chess when I'm pretty sure he doesn't know much about checkers. He does have a lot of kinetic energy though and it's often better to move then do nothing.

Neville Chamberlain had no cards to play once France decided it wasn't going to face down Hitler. The idea of an alliance between France and the UK was that France provided the troops on the ground and the UK provided Naval (and air) power. If France wouldn't act, the UK could do nothing. France had stood aside when Hitler annexed the Saar and Rhineland. If they had acted then? Hitler would have been a laughing stock. Even in 1939, the French invaded Germany but they just walked out and gave the territory back because the French politicians were afraid of losing troops.

The UK's air power in 1938 was very small (and outdated) compared with Nazi Germany's. By 1940, the UK's air force was still massively outnumbered but we had more modern aircraft, and crucially, radar - which we didn't have in 1938. Without Chamberlain, we would have lost in 1940. We would certainly have lost in 1938 and Neville Chamberlain had many Nazi sympathisers in his government.

"Peace in our time" was a lie and most of the UK knew it was. But that agreement bought us valuable time. Chamberlain is derided but those who didn't support him needed more criticism than he got.

The French and UK guarantee to Poland was worthless because there was no way we could get troops there. Even if the USSR hadn't agreed to split Poland with Germany, the UK and France had no way of defending Poland from Germany alone - and Hitler knew that
 
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fair point.
*robnod*

Which, as was said, sets the US apart from the rest of the world in that regard.

Who holds the moral high ground in light of that fact? Us, or those nations/individuals that falsely bitch about the US "building empires"?
 
Calls everyone a liar while lying about lefties hating civil rights.

Where did I ever lie about that?

The very concept of leftism is antithetical to individual civil rights.....you still have no fucking clue what makes a lefty a lefty do you?

LOL
 
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