Upload

[Dixon Carter Lee]

has, at its core, a conflict I've never seen before. Asides from the elements of rom-com, mystery and sci-fi Upload introduces a conversation about whether or not heaven is even a thing anymore. Why wait, and hope, that A God has a cloud set aside for you when you can have the surety of a heaven planned out for you by humans, complete with in-app purchases to keep you "alive", engaged and conscious forever? Why not try to talk your Dad out of his ridiculous dream of dying and meeting his wife in Heaven when, instead, he can have his consciousness uploaded to a virtual reality world and continue to communicate with those he left behind? What a choice. Gamble on God's Heaven or settle for Digital Heaven? Interesting.

 

[Rotadom]

I'm starting it tonight and I could not get into Altered Carbon

 

[Sean]

Try this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fall-Dodge-Hell-Neal-Stephenson/dp/006245871X

 

[Sean]

Sounds like a good read.

Neal Stephenson usually is. Anathem is one of my favourite books ever.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Try this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fall-Dodge-Hell-Neal-Stephenson/dp/006245871X

That was a good one.

 

[Rotadom]

Try this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fall-Dodge-Hell-Neal-Stephenson/dp/006245871X

Does it come in American?

 

[Sean]

Quantum mechanics and philosophy? I consider myself a right brained person so any hint of those two topics and my eyes glaze over.
Sounds like more of an analytical debate than sci fi.

It's not for the faint of heart but Stephenson has a rare knack of making info-dumps entertaining.

 

[LupusDei]

has, at its core, a conflict I've never seen before. Asides from the elements of rom-com, mystery and sci-fi Upload introduces a conversation about whether or not heaven is even a thing anymore. Why wait, and hope, that A God has a cloud set aside for you when you can have the surety of a heaven planned out for you by humans, complete with in-app purchases to keep you "alive", engaged and conscious forever? Why not try to talk your Dad out of his ridiculous dream of dying and meeting his wife in Heaven when, instead, he can have his consciousness uploaded to a virtual reality world and continue to communicate with those he left behind? What a choice. Gamble on God's Heaven or settle for Digital Heaven? Interesting.

Haven't seen the show, but talking about ideas described, I don't see a contradiction. All it takes is to remind the old "teleporter paradox" -- if person is destructively converted into pure information, beamed over and restructured into material form, is it the same person, or is it a copy and the original actually died? Does it matter if no living could tell the difference?

In case of memory/conciousness upload to an external server the division is in plain sight: it is obviously a copy, even if the copy keeps thinking it is the person, and even if it is indistinguishable for others. So, the person in question both dies and lives, it's just question of versioning.

 

[jomar]

Upload is an interesting concept and has some fun things going on. But I found it disappointing in a saccharine kind of way given the Greg Daniels pedigree.

 

[jomar]

has, at its core, a conflict I've never seen before. Asides from the elements of rom-com, mystery and sci-fi Upload introduces a conversation about whether or not heaven is even a thing anymore. Why wait, and hope, that A God has a cloud set aside for you when you can have the surety of a heaven planned out for you by humans, complete with in-app purchases to keep you "alive", engaged and conscious forever? Why not try to talk your Dad out of his ridiculous dream of dying and meeting his wife in Heaven when, instead, he can have his consciousness uploaded to a virtual reality world and continue to communicate with those he left behind? What a choice. Gamble on God's Heaven or settle for Digital Heaven? Interesting.

So the company goes belly up or a pandemic takes out all the employees. What happens when the consciousness winks out...is it just a data wipe? Does heaven step in or was it an either or choice? Maybe you can hedge your bets and have both ways.

 

[Saint_Ann]

I find it kind of amusing that actual Heaven is shunned as make-believe and here a tv show portraying digital heaven is promoted as possible.

I gave it a look. Too cornball for me...but hey! I'm not some wannabe famous comedian.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

So the company goes belly up or a pandemic takes out all the employees. What happens when the consciousness winks out...is it just a data wipe?

You just described my anxiety over DropBox.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

I find it kind of amusing that actual Heaven is shunned as make-believe and here a tv show portraying digital heaven is promoted as possible.

I gave it a look. Too cornball for me...but hey! I'm not some wannabe famous comedian.

wannabe? lol

 

[MartinHeidegger]

I find it kind of amusing that actual Heaven is shunned as make-believe and here a tv show portraying digital heaven is promoted as possible.

I gave it a look. Too cornball for me...but hey! I'm not some wannabe famous comedian.

Assuming digital heaven is feasible, there's a pretty big epistemological difference between the two.

 

[surdeep]

I'm not some wannabe famous comedian.

he knows all about dying

 

[HisArpy]

I find it kind of amusing that actual Heaven is shunned as make-believe and here a tv show portraying digital heaven is promoted as possible.

I gave it a look. Too cornball for me...but hey! I'm not some wannabe famous comedian.

It's a remake of "pixel" but done from the other side of the mirror.

 

[Fermina_Daza]

We’ve kept up on the show and enjoyed it on a simplistic level, not really delving into the whole discussion of after life and if there is one. Honestly, if my “mind” is going to be loaded into some cloud/internet-based system I prefer San Jumiperoo from Black Mirror for my altered reality. Upload is likely more feasible - keep the dead tethered to you for a profit. Sounds about right.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

he knows all about dying

When people think they know you.

Noob.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

We’ve kept up on the show and enjoyed it on a simplistic level, not really delving into the whole discussion of after life and if there is one. Honestly, if my “mind” is going to be loaded into some cloud/internet-based system I prefer San Jumiperoo from Black Mirror for my altered reality. Upload is likely more feasible - keep the dead tethered to you for a profit. Sounds about right.

Exactly. The show's corporate version of afterlife is exactly what would happen -- Immortality monetized.

 

[surdeep]

When people think they know you.

Noob.

Ann said you are comedian, so I make the “dying” joke.

Maybe ann was joking.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Ann said you are comedian, so I make the “dying” joke.

Maybe ann was joking.

Know the room.

 

[With_David_Bowie]

Know the room.

Would you really want to?

 

[Saint_Ann]

Know the room.

You should do a thread revealing your preference(s) in porn. It tells a lot about a person.

Just a thought.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

You should do a thread revealing your preference(s) in porn. It tells a lot about a person.

Just a thought.

I don't have to. I did this:

https://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=220&page=submissions

 

[Saint_Ann]

I don't have to. I did this:

https://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=220&page=submissions

If I read all that and I think it sucks, do you want me to lie to you about it?