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[Salacious_Scribe]

I posted a loving wife's story. One of the couples goes to party wife starts to get wild and things get crazier and crazier until she's fucking everything site.

I know there's a lot of haters, trolls etc in that category but currently, it stands at a 1.9 and my lowest scores prior to this was 3.87

Please read and vote honestly. I know it needs some editing but I truly don't think it deserves scores that low.

My Wife at the Graduation Party

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

You must be seeing results on your main login page that aren't showing up on your story list yet. As of the time I looked, it had (x.xx) for the score. I was looking because I was wondering how many votes the score was based on, since a small number of votes would be easily skewed.

If it's not just skewed because not enough people have voted yet, my best guess would be the inconsistency with the tense. It's one of those things that can a strong enough adverse reaction that people stop seeing the good things you've written. I don't know if that's really enough to account for the score. Maybe it's a combination of mediocre votes combined with one-bombs? If you didn't get the fives you usually get to balance out the ones, the ones would really drive the score.

Not that many people have seen the story yet. It was at less than 1k views when I looked. When the readers who follow you read it, I bet the score will start balancing out.

 

[SimonDoom]

I haven't had a chance to fully read it or vote on it, but I scanned it and the stats and saw a few things.

1. The story was published today. It already has 12,900 views and 24 favorites. Those are good numbers. The view: favorite ratio is a good one. My only Loving Wives story was received much more poorly than yours was. I never cared about bad votes and never turned off the score feature.

2. I noticed it could be edited better. That will affect your score.

3. The negative comments are totally predictable. That's what you get with cuckold stories in Loving Wives. You must expect that.

4. Ignore the negative and reinstate your score. It will never be as good as you think it should be, because of the LW crowd, but some readers WILL like it, and I think you should let them have their chance to give you feedback.

5. Some of the low votes will be eliminated with sweeps. You haven't given enough time for that to happen. The score will go up.

Bottom line: ignore the score. Focus instead on the readers who like your story and be glad to connect with them. Get whatever you can from the feedback and use it to write better stories next time. Don't dwell on the negative.

 

[Salacious_Scribe]

I haven't had a chance to fully read it or vote on it, but I scanned it and the stats and saw a few things.

1. The story was published today. It already has 12,900 views and 24 favorites. Those are good numbers. The view: favorite ratio is a good one. My only Loving Wives story was received much more poorly than yours was. I never cared about bad votes and never turned off the score feature.

2. I noticed it could be edited better. That will affect your score.

3. The negative comments are totally predictable. That's what you get with cuckold stories in Loving Wives. You must expect that.

4. Ignore the negative and reinstate your score. It will never be as good as you think it should be, because of the LW crowd, but some readers WILL like it, and I think you should let them have their chance to give you feedback.

5. Some of the low votes will be eliminated with sweeps. You haven't given enough time for that to happen. The score will go up.

Bottom line: ignore the score. Focus instead on the readers who like your story and be glad to connect with them. Get whatever you can from the feedback and use it to write better stories next time. Don't dwell on the negative.

I know the views would be good, LW is the 2nd most popular category. People hate to love it and love to hate it.

I know about the editing and plan on releasing an edited version. This was a beta release since I lost my beta readers.

The comments don't bother me, in fact, I find them amusing. People who read the story, get off then complain about how lame and predictable it is and how horrible a writer I am and act like this is a real story of my life.

I don't mind a legitimate low score. This story should be a 4+, not a 2. With over 300 votes there was a lot of 1 bombing going on, and getting the score up will take hundreds of 5* votes.

I see people talking about sweeps, yet I never see them happen. Kinda like Bigfoot, often discussed never seen.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Typically, you can tell what the score of a story is going to be, within a few tenths of a point, by around 80 votes. When you get to 300, it is what it is. You might go from a 1.9 to a 2.3, but I wouldn't expect much of a jump

Sweeps happen all the time. Every 4 to 6 weeks, on some percentage of the stories. They don't hit every story every time, but everything seems to get gotten about once every six months or so (personal experience). You would need to be closely monitoring votes to spot most of them.

 

[SimonDoom]

Typically, you can tell what the score of a story is going to be, within a few tenths of a point, by around 80 votes. When you get to 300, it is what it is. You might go from a 1.9 to a 2.3, but I wouldn't expect much of a jump

Sweeps happen all the time. Every 4 to 6 weeks, on some percentage of the stories. They don't hit every story every time, but everything seems to get gotten about once every six some or so (personal experience). You would need to be closely monitoring votes to spot most of them.

These numbers are consistent with my experience, too, except the results in Loving Wives might be somewhat different, because 1) it gets so much more traffic, so 80 votes is a relatively less significant sample size, and 2) the proportion of invalid votes that might be swept probably is higher.

OP's story already has over 15,000 views in less than 24 hours, which is excellent. That's pretty good even for an incest/taboo story. He's getting 1 favorite for every 600 views, more or less, which also is very good. My only LW story so far has received only 1 favorite per 1800 views.

Question: If you've turned off the vote counter, the votes get suppressed, not deleted, right? If you turn the counter back on the votes will suddenly be counted again, correct? Also, will votes still be swept if the counter is turned off?

By the way, my only LW story, which was published nearly 3 and a half years ago, has a score of 3.68, by far my lowest. I don't care. Three years ago it had 26,000 views and a score of 3.42, so it's gone up a little bit since then after more than doubling its views. So it's true that the score won't be great, but that's true for almost ALL of these kinds of stories in LW, and the readers, I think, adjust their expectations accordingly. Don't be too concerned about it.

 

[lovecraft68]

I posted a loving wife's story. One of the couples goes to party wife starts to get wild and things get crazier and crazier until she's fucking everything site.

I know there's a lot of haters, trolls etc in that category but currently, it stands at a 1.9 and my lowest scores prior to this was 3.87

Please read and vote honestly. I know it needs some editing but I truly don't think it deserves scores that low.

My Wife at the Graduation Party

Not my thing so passing on reading it, but will just say that low scores in LW are not a reflection of quality, but the cloven hooved readership. Large factions of readers over there come to that category to spew hate and indulge some type of weird masochist self loathing kind of behavior...

So don't worry about the score, its not you, its them....and if nothing else the next sweep will boost it.

I had an LW story a few years back-and a contest entry-that was 1.60 at one point and after the sweep went all the way up to 2.90 I think its still like 2.8....nothing else on my page is under 4.

 

[Vix_Giovanni]

I know the views would be good, LW is the 2nd most popular category. People hate to love it and love to hate it.

I know about the editing and plan on releasing an edited version. This was a beta release since I lost my beta readers.

The comments don't bother me, in fact, I find them amusing. People who read the story, get off then complain about how lame and predictable it is and how horrible a writer I am and act like this is a real story of my life.

I don't mind a legitimate low score. This story should be a 4+, not a 2. With over 300 votes there was a lot of 1 bombing going on, and getting the score up will take hundreds of 5* votes.

I see people talking about sweeps, yet I never see them happen. Kinda like Bigfoot, often discussed never seen.

I read your story and the reader comments.

As Simon and some of your commenters pointed out, there’s a number of grammatical and syntactical mistakes that should be corrected. You’ve already indicated that you plan to address this.

Additionally, a couple of commenters mentioned that your protagonists’ actions didn’t “make sense.” I agree with them, to a certain extent, and I think that was valid feedback:

Assuming that a reader is sophisticated enough to understand that this is merely erotic fiction: you have many instances, at different scalars, where as soon as you've set up enough context for point A, you “jump” ahead to point C, without enough context about the point B in between that the reader needs to join A and C. This isn't an unusual issue on Literotica; many writers on this site do the exact same thing. But doing this can significantly effect the narrative pace, and can leave readers with the frustrating task of putting together an implied story around missing information. I think that these jumps did affect your story's pacing and sex scenes, and that your commenters pointed some helpful specifics.

I don’t know whether this story’s rating should be a four or better; I’d tend to agree in any other category, but my limited understanding of Loving Wives is that the ratings are often out of sync with the story quality. But I completely agree that the 1.9 (?!?) rating is inaccurately and unfairly depressed. I hope that you’ll see a significant improvement from sweeps results soon.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Question: If you've turned off the vote counter, the votes get suppressed, not deleted, right? If you turn the counter back on the votes will suddenly be counted again, correct? Also, will votes still be swept if the counter is turned off?

Correct - based on advice from a writer who turned their scores off following a troll campaign, then turned them back on a couple of months later. And included in sweeps - this based on some recent posts where someone lost a Red H they were trying to protect but a sweep went through and stripped out votes but the maths kept going on what was left.

 

[lovecraft68]

These numbers are consistent with my experience, too, except the results in Loving Wives might be somewhat different, because 1) it gets so much more traffic, so 80 votes is a relatively less significant sample size, and 2) the proportion of invalid votes that might be swept probably is higher.

OP's story already has over 15,000 views in less than 24 hours, which is excellent. That's pretty good even for an incest/taboo story. He's getting 1 favorite for every 600 views, more or less, which also is very good. My only LW story so far has received only 1 favorite per 1800 views.

Question: If you've turned off the vote counter, the votes get suppressed, not deleted, right? If you turn the counter back on the votes will suddenly be counted again, correct? Also, will votes still be swept if the counter is turned off?

By the way, my only LW story, which was published nearly 3 and a half years ago, has a score of 3.68, by far my lowest. I don't care. Three years ago it had 26,000 views and a score of 3.42, so it's gone up a little bit since then after more than doubling its views. So it's true that the score won't be great, but that's true for almost ALL of these kinds of stories in LW, and the readers, I think, adjust their expectations accordingly. Don't be too concerned about it.

I also think freezing votes/scores is a big bullseye for the trolls dedicated enough to keep checking back-and they are out there-just waiting for you to think you're safe.

My first LW story was published in 2012 and I think the initial score after a couple weeks was 4.15ish....I think it took three years, but actually crept over 4.5.

I'm sure that will change now that I posted this

 

[MohanSingh]

Never post in loving wives. You will always be trashed.

 

[Lazaran]

Ok. So I read your story and I think I see the problem. It isn't the quality of the writing, it's the content.

There were some really confusing and contradictory ideas throughout the story.

Setting the premise up as a commited loving married couple celebrating the wife's graduation, and then within the space of less than a day, having the couple behave in a manner totally inconsistent with their backstory was quite jarring. Especially the ending, where the supposedly committed loving husband tolerates his supposedly committed loving wife humiliating him and letting her get fucked by a younger "stud" while sitting on his lap. The attempt to create some kind of dramatic tension by having the "loving husband" appear conflicted between being angry and aroused in no way explains the ridiculously whorish behavior he cuckily tolerates from his "loving wife". If the premise had been that the couple wasn't happily married it might have made more sense.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, sometimes stories are so stupid and offensive that they deserve 1 star, despite good grammar and proper punctuation.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

That certainly illustrates the point made by MohanSingh and Lovecraft.

 

[lovecraft68]

Ok. So I read your story and I think I see the problem. It isn't the quality of the writing, it's the content.

There were some really confusing and contradictory ideas throughout the story.

Setting the premise up as a commited loving married couple celebrating the wife's graduation, and then within the space of less than a day, having the couple behave in a manner totally inconsistent with their backstory was quite jarring. Especially the ending, where the supposedly committed loving husband tolerates his supposedly committed loving wife humiliating him and letting her get fucked by a younger "stud" while sitting on his lap. The attempt to create some kind of dramatic tension by having the "loving husband" appear conflicted between being angry and aroused in no way explains the ridiculously whorish behavior he cuckily tolerates from his "loving wife". If the premise had been that the couple wasn't happily married it might have made more sense.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, sometimes stories are so stupid and offensive that they deserve 1 star, despite good grammar and proper punctuation.

Hmm I smell the typical LW reader in this post.

Stud, whorish, loving husband, cuckily(thata word?) all in quotes pushes your own personal feelings and agenda and outs you as one those types that seem to read in a category that offends you.

Why? Hey, that's your business.

The conflict is actually real, a lot of couples have these fantasies and agree, but in real life there are doubts second thoughts and uncomfortable feelings, but many times they still go through with it.

My personal theory is a cuck husband is a form of submissive, there is humiliation and even some self loathing in watching his wife with other been, but that fuels the deed and gives him a reward that only someone with sub/masochistic tendencies can understand.

Your critique is meaningless over one word "whorish" of course the wife is a whore, because you don't like women being with other men when they're married...but yet come to a category where that's almost all that's there.

I go back to my first post in this thread, its not the quality, its the readership, and its hate and bias against women who enjoy other men and the men who go along with it.

 

[Lazaran]

Keep telling yourself that

LW has a lot of variety and is not solely Cuck. Furthermore, I find it totally unrealistic that a MAN who " loves " his WIFE or his girlfriend would behave the way a Cuck behaves. I also find it unrealistic that a WOMAN who " loves " her HUSBAND or boyfriend would behave like a whore. I actually find Cuck stories insulting and degrading to both men AND women who love each other. If the two people haven't made a commitment to each other then some of these scenarios might make sense, but when the AUTHOR CHOOSES to put forward the premise that the main couple is in a LOVING MARRIAGE these cuck scenarios are absurd. Cuck authors who propagate these loving marriage cuck stories are denigrating the institution of marriage, and the men and women who would fight and die for each other and their fidelity. If you never loved someone like that you wouldn't understand.

Note to Cuck authors; A loving marriage and cuck are incompatible.

Also to my point, a stupid story is a stupid story regardless of genre. The speed at which the couple in this particular farce went from a monogamous loving marriage to the wife giving blowjobs, handjobs and getting bukkaked and creampied while sitting on the husbands lap is ridiculous.

Stupid is as stupid writes Forest.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

LW has a lot of variety and is not solely Cuck. Furthermore, I find it totally unrealistic that a MAN who " loves " his WIFE or his girlfriend would behave the way a Cuck behaves. I also find it unrealistic that a WOMAN who " loves " her HUSBAND or boyfriend would behave like a whore. I actually find Cuck stories insulting and degrading to both men AND women who love each other. If the two people haven't made a commitment to each other then some of these scenarios might make sense, but when the AUTHOR CHOOSES to put forward the premise that the main couple is in a LOVING MARRIAGE these cuck scenarios are absurd. Cuck authors who propagate these loving marriage cuck stories are denigrating the institution of marriage, and the men and women who would fight and die for each other and their fidelity. If you never loved someone like that you wouldn't understand.

Note to Cuck authors; A loving marriage and cuck are incompatible.

Also to my point, a stupid story is a stupid story regardless of genre. The speed at which the couple in this particular farce went from a monogamous loving marriage to the wife giving blowjobs, handjobs and getting bukkaked and creampied while sitting on the husbands lap is ridiculous.

Stupid is as stupid writes Forest.

What was your purpose in writing this post and your previous one?

 

[Lazaran]

EoN

Well EoN, the first response was to the OPs question about why his rating was so low for his story.

The second response was to Lovecraft68s comment on my comment, but also was meant to support my original comment.

Sometimes a low score just means people didn't like the story. The Occam's razor explanation.

I don't even like Cuck stories but I read it anyway just to give an informed opinion, and that opinion is in the body of my responses.

I find it humorous that some respondents were simply chalking it up to haters, and advising the OP to wait until the site sweeps the low ratings and then they would have a higher score and be pacified. I actually questioned their feedback. If people put their content on a free public board, and then want to censor people who have a negative view of said content, fine. Live in your bubble.

The OP wanted feedback. I took the time to read the story and then gave my honest feedback. Based on the quality of the writing, the editing, the subject matter, and the narrative, I can easily see why the story is rated 2 stars.

It's JMHO

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

Well EoN, the first response was to the OPs question about why his rating was so low for his story.

The second response was to Lovecraft68s comment on my comment, but also was meant to support my original comment.

Sometimes a low score just means people didn't like the story. The Occam's razor explanation.

I don't even like Cuck stories but I read it anyway just to give an informed opinion, and that opinion is in the body of my responses.

I find it humorous that some respondents were simply chalking it up to haters, and advising the OP to wait until the site sweeps the low ratings and then they would have a higher score and be pacified. I actually questioned their feedback. If people put their content on a free public board, and then want to censor people who have a negative view of said content, fine. Live in your bubble.

The OP wanted feedback. I took the time to read the story and then gave my honest feedback. Based on the quality of the writing, the editing, the subject matter, and the narrative, I can easily see why the story is rated 2 stars.

It's JMHO

I understand what you did in your posts. I was questioning your purpose. What effect did you intend to achieve?

I don't think you need to be concerned about being censored. As you can see, your posts are still here.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I actually find Cuck stories insulting and degrading to both men AND women who love each other. If the two people haven't made a commitment to each other then some of these scenarios might make sense, but when the AUTHOR CHOOSES to put forward the premise that the main couple is in a LOVING MARRIAGE these cuck scenarios are absurd. Cuck authors who propagate these loving marriage cuck stories are denigrating the institution of marriage, and the men and women who would fight and die for each other and their fidelity. If you never loved someone like that you wouldn't understand.

Gotta love people who assume their personal experience of the world is universal truth. Anybody whose experience is different just "doesn't understand".

 

[Lazaran]

I understand what you did in your posts. I was questioning your purpose. What effect did you intend to achieve?

I don't think you need to be concerned about being censored. As you can see, your posts are still here.

EoN, i thought the purpose of the response was obvious but apparently not. It was to give the OP a reality check. The OP felt like their story had been rated unfairly and THEY asked for feedback. I gave feedback, which I hoped would dispel the authors paranoia that there was a concerted effort by a cabal to tear their work down. Others reinforced the OP's belief.

I guess a secondary purpose my responses might serve is to let authors of any story know that the content of the story is fair game for people's opinions. Writers of stories that are gratuitously humiliating, excessively offensive or totally unrealistic shouldn't be surprised by a low rating. The site may sweep low ratings but that is just giving writers a false sense of accomplishment. I'm all for giving every kid a participation trophy; but adults writing erotica?? Not so much. I have too much respect for the power of the written word.

P.S. The censorship I was referring to was the sweeping of low ratings on stories. Voting is a powerful form of speech, and sweeping people's votes silences that speech in a very tangible way. I'm not totally familiar with the way LitE sweeps the low votes but if they delete anything other than duplicate votes from the same account they are definitely censoring to some extent.

Cheers

 

[SisterJezabel]

LW is a hard category to crack. I flick through it most days and whereas in other categories I frequent I choose mainly stories that score above 4, in LW I choose not to worry about the scores. The only stories that seem to do well are when the wife cheats, buggy finds out, seeks out revenge on either wife or guy she cheated with and then moves on with his life, often with the girl next door who helped him through it.

I read a great story in the last few months which I didn't favourite so I can't share it, but the premise was a woman who had been married over 20 years and was encouraged by workmates to go to bars etc after work where they all cheated but in the end she decided that she truly loved her husband and there was some good husband wife sex thrown in for good measure. It received so many comments saying that she did cheat because she went out drinking without her husband, even thought he author explained things very well.

Apart from the revenge category as above, I'm yet to figure out what people do want from a LW story and I am seeing more and more themes often explored in LW appear in other categories, especially romance and erotic couplings. The other irony is the interracial stories where the hubby is cucked by a cock that defies anatomical feasibility and yet these stories seem to score highly! Go figure!

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

EoN, i thought the purpose of the response was obvious but apparently not. It was to give the OP a reality check. The OP felt like their story had been rated unfairly and THEY asked for feedback. I gave feedback, which I hoped would dispel the authors paranoia that there was a concerted effort by a cabal to tear their work down. Others reinforced the OP's belief.

I guess a secondary purpose my responses might serve is to let authors of any story know that the content of the story is fair game for people's opinions. Writers of stories that are gratuitously humiliating, excessively offensive or totally unrealistic shouldn't be surprised by a low rating. The site may sweep low ratings but that is just giving writers a false sense of accomplishment. I'm all for giving every kid a participation trophy; but adults writing erotica?? Not so much. I have too much respect for the power of the written word.

P.S. The censorship I was referring to was the sweeping of low ratings on stories. Voting is a powerful form of speech, and sweeping people's votes silences that speech in a very tangible way. I'm not totally familiar with the way LitE sweeps the low votes but if they delete anything other than duplicate votes from the same account they are definitely censoring to some extent.

Cheers

What I'm getting from your response is that your purposes were to let Salacious Scribe knw that you think his story really is terrible, and to let other writers know that if they address subjects you don't care for, their writing is also terrible.

That isn't feedback. That's just shouting into the wind. It also suggests that your intention was just to make people feel bad or provoke negative responses. If you think about where you're posting, I think you'll realize that you're not going to be successful in making people feel because you disapprove of non-traditional values being the subject of erotic fiction. Even your ability to provoke a negative response is going to be severely limited by the sheer incongruity of evangelizing on a sex site by hitting people over the head with your personal values.

If you wanted to communicate misogyny, you've done that, but not with the emotional impact you seem to be seeking. It's hard to be hurt by someone speaking as a caricature. I'm not suggesting that you hone your trolling abilities. I'm suggesting that if you truly have a desire to persuade people that they should believe what you believe, you're not going to do more than personally attacking them and saying, "This is what I believe, and everyone else should believe it." You need to explain why it's what you believe and show people why they ought to consider your point of view. To be clear, I am saying this in the sense of a broader application, and not because I think the values for which you're advocating should be adopted by anyone else. Your personal beliefs aren't the focus of my response.

Definitionally, feedback is intended to help someone improve something. When people ask for feedback on their writing, they generally aren't asking for your value judgments. I understand that you want to give them anyway, and you obviously, you have a right to do that, but it isn't feedback. You also have a right to stand on the side of the road and wave a sign at passing traffic that says, "You suck!" They accomplish approximately the same thing, and in both cases, you should realize that you're communicating more about yourself than you are about the subject of your derision.

It's perfectly legitimate to say, "I think this story may not have been well received because its premise was objectionable to people who feel writers should not tell stories about sex outside of marriage," or "When I read this story, I didn't feel it was believable for the wife to be portrayed as faithful and then engage in all those sexual activities with other men." You would, of course, be ignoring all the very obvious hints that she had these desires all along, and you wouldn't be acknowledging that other readers (the readers for which this story was intended), do not necessarily view the wife's actions as unfaithful, since her husband was present, participating and supporting what she did. Either of those examples would, despite their deficiencies, still be legitimate feedback, because you would have been trying to address why the story might not have been well-received.

Having a wife whose sole sexual interest is in sexually gratifying her husband, with the understanding that her husband would never enjoy watching her engage in sexual activities with others, may be your fantasy. I'm sure you recognize, though, that other people have different fantasies. You might think their fantasies or proclivities are "wrong," but you should be able to recognize that many, many people enjoy them, and that those people are who that story was written for. It wasn't written for you. That doesn't mean you shouldn't read it, or shouldn't have an opinion about it, but it does mean that if you provide feedback, you should keep in mind that you aren't the intended audience.

I don't think you're understanding the purpose of the way Lit "sweeps" the voting. I suspect that nobody but the site's owners can discuss the purpose with authority, but as I understand the purpose, it's to eliminate inauthentic votes (bots, duplicate voting, etc.), and possibly votes that are just part of a troll campaign (like going down a category and arbitrarily assigning 1s to everything in that category.) That isn't censorship.

I'm not even entirely sure the concept of censorship is really applicable to a site like this. This is a privately run site, free to readers and writers, but it is a business. Part of this site's marketability is the reader's ability to find appealing stories, and that's largely dependent on the ranking system. If the site owners did nothing to manage inauthentic and troll voting, it would ultimately undermine the site's profitability. It is called "voting," but it's voting in the sense of ratings, not in the sense of a right that you or anyone else has. The scoring does not affect your right of self-determination, or any other right for that matter. It doesn't affect your freedom of expression in any way. You're expressing your opinion, but the site has no obligation to take your opinion into account. None of us has a "right" to affect the way this site ranks stories.

All of us get to choose whether we want to stay exactly as we are, or change and grow in response to what we encounter in life, including other people's ideas.

Or, you can shout into the wind.

 

[Lazaran]

EoN

EoN, yes, my feedback did indicate my opinion of the OPs work. Yes I did think the story was terrible. No, you are not the judge of what is appropriate feedback. No, you do not know my intentions. No, your comments will not deter me from giving honest feedback.

It is certainly your right to like the content and quality of the OPs story and to give it a high rating and positive reviews. Just understand that others have the right to not like the content and quality of said story, and to give it low ratings and negative reviews.

I will also repeat.... THE OP opened themselves up to my feedback by ASKING for it.
Not only did THEY ask for feedback, they did it in a way that was nothing short of entitled. Like they were entitled to a high rating. Like there had to be something wrong with the voting. Like it couldn't possibly be the content and quality of their story.

Oddly enough, the OP apparently didn't have a problem with my feedback.... Why do you?

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

EoN, yes, my feedback did indicate my opinion of the OPs work. Yes I did think the story was terrible. No, you are not the judge of what is appropriate feedback. No, you do not know my intentions. No, your comments will not deter me from giving honest feedback.

It is certainly your right to like the content and quality of the OPs story and to give it a high rating and positive reviews. Just understand that others have the right to not like the content and quality of said story, and to give it low ratings and negative reviews.

I will also repeat.... THE OP opened themselves up to my feedback by ASKING for it.
Not only did THEY ask for feedback, they did it in a way that was nothing short of entitled. Like they were entitled to a high rating. Like there had to be something wrong with the voting. Like it couldn't possibly be the content and quality of their story.

Oddly enough, the OP apparently didn't have a problem with my feedback.... Why do you?

I would like to say I never feed the trolls. Unfortunately, the only way to make sure I never do that is to make more assumptions than I'm comfortable making. Making sure I do not gorge the trolls is easier. If you genuinely wish to discuss this further, I'd be happy to do so in private messages. If you want an audience, you'll need to find another person to dance with.

 

[lovecraft68]

LW has a lot of variety and is not solely Cuck. Furthermore, I find it totally unrealistic that a MAN who " loves " his WIFE or his girlfriend would behave the way a Cuck behaves. I also find it unrealistic that a WOMAN who " loves " her HUSBAND or boyfriend would behave like a whore. I actually find Cuck stories insulting and degrading to both men AND women who love each other. If the two people haven't made a commitment to each other then some of these scenarios might make sense, but when the AUTHOR CHOOSES to put forward the premise that the main couple is in a LOVING MARRIAGE these cuck scenarios are absurd. Cuck authors who propagate these loving marriage cuck stories are denigrating the institution of marriage, and the men and women who would fight and die for each other and their fidelity. If you never loved someone like that you wouldn't understand.

Note to Cuck authors; A loving marriage and cuck are incompatible.

Also to my point, a stupid story is a stupid story regardless of genre. The speed at which the couple in this particular farce went from a monogamous loving marriage to the wife giving blowjobs, handjobs and getting bukkaked and creampied while sitting on the husbands lap is ridiculous.

Stupid is as stupid writes Forest.

You keep proving my point.

I...is your entire post.

Now of course feedback is pretty much opinion, but you can give an opinion based on the story itself in a detached manner or you can fill your critique with your personal feelings and that's what you're doing. The story is bad to you because you don't like/understand that situation, not because of how its written.

I loathe non con stories, therefore I don't read them because I could never big an opinion other than rape is disgusting to me even in fiction...but that is not feedback that's personal feelings so I never join in any discussion when an NC author wants a good critique of his work because I can't give that to them, and I wish more people would do that and not bash based only on your emotions.

I am well aware there are different forms of LW stories, and a readership for all of them, and also trolls for all of them, and I have never understood why people like yourself who know what you like and don't like continue to read what you don't like then get offended like the story is personal.

"whorish behavior" again takes any credence out of your words, that is 100% a personal feeling and nothing to do with the story.

Bet you wouldn't mind if the story went BTB though...am I right? If the whore got hers?

I wrote three stories in that category, and decided after the last one, that I no longer need to participate or feed a category filled with angry incels and their absolute hatred of women.

I'm not saying that is every reader there. but they are easily the most vocal, and I'm not saying you're one of them, but you 'quoted' all the key words that identify you as only being able to accept a story where a woman behaves in a manner YOU approve of.

So I stick to my opinion that the LW category is by far the most volatile and divided and one can't judge the quality of a story by the reaction of the lunatics in that asylum.