Why have Republicans stopped bragging about the stock market?

[Botanical11B]

Dangerous and toxic are words that adequately describe your contributions to this thread.

He's a good comrade, he doesn't like people making money, it means inequity.

 

[Dribble]

Actually, I don't think you understand what's happening. You keep talking about "3Q-4Q projections" as if we will have an early vaccine or effective treatment for COVID 19.

Are you even remotely aware that a huge percentage of the consumer market has dropped out of the in-person entertainment, travel, and non-essential service industries, and will remain that way until the coast is clear? And are you even remotely aware that it will take well beyond "3Q-4Q" of this year to recover the prior momentum of those industries?

Quit slinging around jargon and start facing reality.

He also doesn't understand that many small businesses, simply will not survive this. You can always spot the fakes. They write something here like they know what they are talking about...you read it...and say holy fuck...we have a fifth grader here.

 

[Adre]

Dangerous and toxic are words that adequately describe your contributions to this thread.

How about quoting all these experts you refer to when projecting the big third quarter bounceback. Let’s see who you’ve been reading.

 

[Botanical11B]

He also doesn't understand that many small businesses, simply will not survive this. You can always spot the fakes. They write something here like they know what they are talking about...you read it...and say holy fuck...we have a fifth grader here.

Wild ascription and a ad hom lacking total self awareness, based on said ascription.

Fantastic.

How about quoting all these experts you refer to when projecting the big third quarter bounceback. Let’s see who you’ve been reading.

How do you figure I lost a lot of money recently Adre??

What outright bullshit is being spread, SPECIFICALLY Adre???

Oh wait....you once again, can't back up your bullshit.

And I thought for once you might have had something other than vapid shit talk, silly me.

 

[Adre]

He's a good comrade, he doesn't like people making money, it means inequity.

I love people making money, just as I have. What I don’t like is phonies posting irresponsible bullshit with no basis in fact or reality.

By the way, your comrade bullshit is tired and lazy. Either use your intelligence or shut up.

 

[HisArpy]

He's a good comrade, he doesn't like people making money, it means inequity.

He's a fucking asshole who thinks that if he's loud enough that people will refrain from bettering themselves thereby leaving him and his crapfest behind.

The problem is that, for some, he's right.

Not everyone is financially saavy but almost everyone wants more than what they have. You don't get any of what you want by sitting on the sidelines of the only game there is. But, if you're continually told that reaching for the stars is stupid and will cost you your hard earned and scrimped over life savings, some people will pause and miss the opportunity that we have right now.

And assholes like the ones in this thread will enjoy the fact that they've made someone's future suck.

 

[HisArpy]

I love people making money, just as I have. What I don’t like is phonies posting irresponsible bullshit with no basis in fact or reality.

Everyone on the interwebs is a self proclaimed billionaire.

That doesn't mean it's true.

 

[HisArpy]

How about quoting all these experts you refer to when projecting the big third quarter bounceback. Let’s see who you’ve been reading.

Please try and keep up with the rest of the class

 

[coati]

Current projections by EXPERTS in the field are saying that Q3 & 4 are going to rebound. I'm merely passing along that information and my personal belief that they're probably more correct than those who can't back up their shit with anything other than #OMB.

You don't have to believe it, but it's not ME who's saying it.

Then there's the labor thing that you're trying to use to justify your doom and gloom.

In the past week or so 16 million people filed for unemployment. Oh noes... That's worse than in the great depression...

Facts are that in the 1930's, before the Roosevelt's New Deal came along, people didn't HAVE "unemployment insurance". There wasn't any way to GET "unemployment insurance".

That's not the case today. Not only are there more total workers, and the unemployment numbers trying to compare the 2 situations aren't adjusted for that, but most of those who filed, only did so because the CARES Act allowed the self employed to file a claim. Something that wasn't available until after the Act was passed and CERTAINLY not available in the 1930's.

From there, the number will start to go down almost immediately once people are allowed to return to work. In the 1930's that wasn't possible. Some industries will be slow to recover, but the bulk of what comprises GDP will be working before the end of Q2.

Which means that what you're spouting is bullshit and fear mongering.

Talk to me about the magnificent extent of recovery and employment when "Q3-Q4" of this year rolls around. We can discuss the implications of national debt at that time, also.

Meanwhile, you and BoBo should keep snapping up all those stock market bargains right now, before the GDP starts climbing again in Q2.

I'll stick with my on-going strategy of investing in real goods and local community development, secure in the knowledge that when this impeached President faces a crisis, he simply cries, "I don't take responsibility for anything. Every state needs to fend for itself."

Good luck, Derpy!

 

[HisArpy]

He also doesn't understand that many small businesses, simply will not survive this. You can always spot the fakes. They write something here like they know what they are talking about...you read it...and say holy fuck...we have a fifth grader here.

Of course not all small businesses will weather the crisis intact. Many WILL fail. And for those businesses and their workers, the future isn't as rosy as for the rest.

That doesn't mean the market won't recover. It also doesn't mean a recession.

 

[Adre]

He's a fucking asshole who thinks that if he's loud enough that people will refrain from bettering themselves thereby leaving him and his crapfest behind.

The problem is that, for some, he's right.

Not everyone is financially saavy but almost everyone wants more than what they have. You don't get any of what you want by sitting on the sidelines of the only game there is. But, if you're continually told that reaching for the stars is stupid and will cost you your hard earned and scrimped over life savings, some people will pause and miss the opportunity that we have right now.

And assholes like the ones in this thread will enjoy the fact that they've made someone's future suck.

There are times to be on the sidelines and times to be fully engaged in the game. Only dullards think you need to be playing at full tilt all the time. I saved a small fortune by sitting out a few months. You’ve never had an adviser say “I’d be heavy on cash right now?”

Quit slinging your bullshit. YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED!

 

[HisArpy]

Talk to me about the magnificent extent of recovery and employment when "Q3-Q4" of this year rolls around. We can discuss the implications of national debt at that time, also.

Meanwhile, you and BoBo should keep snapping up all those stock market bargains right now, before the GDP starts climbing again in Q2.

I'll stick with my on-going strategy of investing in real goods and local community development, secure in the knowledge that when this impeached President faces a crisis, he simply cries, "I don't take responsibility for anything. Every state needs to fend for itself."

Good luck, Derpy!

Again, it's not ME who is saying that Q3 & 4 will rebound, it's the experts in the financial sectors saying that.

If they're right, there's a huge potential in the market.

If they're wrong, there isn't.

NO ONE knows at this point but those who make their living forecasting the market based on the indicators that have historical track records are saying it's more likely than not.

Which are better odds of "winning" than you'll get buying a lottery ticket. Certainly a much better investment idea than hoarding all the TP and calling it a "strategy of investing in real goods and local community development".

 

[Botanical11B]

I love people making money, just as I have.

So why are you (D)??

You realize they are actively campaigning on restricting if not outright banning people making money right?

You know making money is colonialist, racist, white supremacy right??

What I don’t like is phonies posting irresponsible bullshit with no basis in fact or reality.

What irresponsible bullshit??

He's a fucking asshole who thinks that if he's loud enough that people will refrain from bettering themselves thereby leaving him and his crapfest behind.

The problem is that, for some, he's right.

Not everyone is financially saavy but almost everyone wants more than what they have. You don't get any of what you want by sitting on the sidelines of the only game there is. But, if you're continually told that reaching for the stars is stupid and will cost you your hard earned and scrimped over life savings, some people will pause and miss the opportunity that we have right now.

And assholes like the ones in this thread will enjoy the fact that they've made someone's future suck.

I'm fine with them and everyone dumb enough to listen to them sitting on the sidelines.

 

[HisArpy]

There are times to be on the sidelines and times to be fully engaged in the game. Only dullards think you need to be playing at full tilt all the time. I saved a small fortune by sitting out a few months. You’ve never had an adviser say “I’d be heavy on cash right now?”

Quit slinging your bullshit. YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED!

You = "saved a small fortune".
Me = "making capital gains in the market right now".

I have an index ETF (not going to say which one) that in the past 3 trading days posted capital gains of 29% on a low 5-figure investment.

Meanwhile your "heavy on cash" strategy just cost you money due to the inflation that's going to hit and devalue the currency sitting in that passbook savings account earning you 1/10 of 1 percent.

NO ONE is thinking that's a smart investment plan but you.


Then there's this:

How exactly do you know I'm not qualified to give my own opinion?

Is there a special merit badge you were given by your scout leader that allows you to proclaim someone is or isn't "qualified" to say what they believe?

 

[coati]

Again, it's not ME who is saying that Q3 & 4 will rebound, it's the experts in the financial sectors saying that.

If they're right, there's a huge potential in the market.

If they're wrong, there isn't.

NO ONE knows at this point but those who make their living forecasting the market based on the indicators that have historical track records are saying it's more likely than not.

Which are better odds of "winning" than you'll get buying a lottery ticket. Certainly a much better investment idea than hoarding all the TP and calling it a "strategy of investing in real goods and local community development".

Being another city-based cult follower of the impeached President, you have no idea what localized community economic development and sustainability means, but you suspect it has something to do with toilet paper.

Keep snapping up those stock market bargains, Derpy! Move now, because "the experts" say it's a huge buying opportunity.

 

[Botanical11B]

Being another city-based cult follower of the impeached President, you have no idea what localized community economic development and sustainability means, but you suspect it has something to do with toilet paper.

Keep snapping up those stock market bargains, Derpy! Move now, because "the experts" say it's a huge buying opportunity.

Deflection....then more insistence on the total and permanent end of markets and money making.


Coati, directly implies it, but won't ever own up to it's belief that the economy is forever dead, not another penny will ever be made in the USA because COVID boogeyman is out there!!!!

 

[HisArpy]

Being another city-based cult follower of the impeached President, you have no idea what localized community economic development and sustainability means, but you suspect it has something to do with toilet paper.

Keep snapping up those stock market bargains, Derpy! Move now, because "the experts" say it's a huge buying opportunity.

dudly, pumping cash into your little organic farm isn't anything any different than others paying the mortgage on their homes and being self employed.

 

[Botanical11B]

dudly, pumping cash into your little organic farm isn't anything any different than others paying the mortgage on their homes and being self employed.

Coati the communist comrade is a farmer?

LMFAO!!!!!

Un-fucking-real....

 

[HisArpy]

Coati the communist comrade is a farmer?

LMFAO!!!!!

Un-fucking-real....

Yep.

"Sustainable infrastructure" is "organic farming".

 

[Botanical11B]

Yep.

"Sustainable infrastructure" is "organic farming".

I wonder if he lets people come raid his crops/livestock, he didn't cultivate anything after all, society did!!!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Again, it's not ME who is saying that Q3 & 4 will rebound, it's the experts in the financial sectors saying that.

If they're right, there's a huge potential in the market.

If they're wrong, there isn't.

NO ONE knows at this point but those who make their living forecasting the market based on the indicators that have historical track records are saying it's more likely than not.

Which are better odds of "winning" than you'll get buying a lottery ticket. Certainly a much better investment idea than hoarding all the TP and calling it a "strategy of investing in real goods and local community development".

While I and Arpy tend to disagree on most areas, I do agree in most part with him on the stock market.

Historically the market has always recovered from these situations. How it's recovered and what the winners and losers were is different, but it still recovered.

I follow simple rules in my investments, first I only invest in what I can afford to lose, second, I never track it daily or monthly, I have an investor who gets paid for doing that.

I just check out the year over year results.


Is right now a good time to investing? I don't know? Am I just throwing away that money? Maybe, but what else should I do with it? If the economy fails, the bills are not even good for TP since they have more plastic in them now than cloth and paper....

At some point between now and 18 months out, the world will have adjusted one way or the other to COVID-19 epidemic. Is it a vaccine and a return to a similar economic model as in the past. Or will it be some kind of modified system who knows, but I am confidant that the situation that we are in now will be over in 2022, if not earlier.

 

[HisArpy]

I wonder if he lets people come raid his crops/livestock, he didn't cultivate anything after all, society did!!!

I'm thinking he has a fence and some "no trespassing" signs to keep the riff raff out.

 

[Botanical11B]

I'm thinking he has a fence and some "no trespassing" signs to keep the riff raff out.

Like a selfish, RACIST, capitalist pig.......nothing more racist the fences and doors.

POVERTY IS A FUNCTION OF PROFIT COATI!!!!WHY DO YOU HATE POOR PEOPLE!!?!???!?






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[coati]

Snap up all those stock market bargains now, while the gettin' is good. What goes down must go up.

Stock market growth is God-- it's infinite and goes on forever.

Don't delay, experts are beckoning!

 

[Adre]

You = "saved a small fortune".
Me = "making capital gains in the market right now".

I have an index ETF (not going to say which one) that in the past 3 trading days posted capital gains of 29% on a low 5-figure investment.

Meanwhile your "heavy on cash" strategy just cost you money due to the inflation that's going to hit and devalue the currency sitting in that passbook savings account earning you 1/10 of 1 percent.

NO ONE is thinking that's a smart investment plan but you.


Then there's this:

How exactly do you know I'm not qualified to give my own opinion?

Is there a special merit badge you were given by your scout leader that allows you to proclaim someone is or isn't "qualified" to say what they believe?

ME = Did not lose a penny in the almost 30% equity bath

ME = Doing quite nicely in the bond market

ME = Keeps cash in a preferred money market fund that pays a smallish return but way more than 1/10th%

ME = Not telling anyone to do what I do or to do what your “experts” say

ME = Knows there’s a time to hold ‘em and a time to fold ‘em