Space the Final Frontier.

[KindredFlame]

Ok I have this idea, I don’t know where sex would come in. But this is the initial idea.

New story idea.
Just the start of an idea not sure what I am going to do with it.

The conditions on mars are harsh, temperatures from minus 120 to plus 20 no air lower gravity and dust storms that block out the suns light that last for months. However that’s were the leaders of the world government have decided to site the first off world prison on this baron world.

Work started in 1990 and now ten years later the first set of prisoners were about to land. There are no guards there are no walls, just a massive super dome measuring two miles across with living quarters and micro farms to recover oxygen and regenerate a healthy balance in the dome.

Food was to be transported as well as further equipment and materials to extend the dome these were all going to be un-maned ships that were only programmed for one journey. The power cells once on mars shut down and can only be used as power stations to support the eco dome expansion and life.

Finally a way of riding the world of dangerous criminals with no chance of them ever returning to Earth. Each ship was stripped by the convicts themselves and the expansion was done to make there lives better and this is what happened.

Life was becoming ordered on the mars prison Colony a higher archly became the first leaders and a rule of law was established. It wasn’t the same as the worlds, but it was working, justice was brutal but fair as everyone decided on what the punishment of an individual would be, so most stayed in line.

Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. KF

 

[Carnevil9]

Where would the sex come in? Well, I assume there are no cigarettes on Mars, so the only currency available is sex. The prisoners trade sexual favors with the guards (are there guards in this prison?) and each other for whatever luxuries are available: better quarters, extra food portions, the tiny amounts of drugs that get smuggled in, etc.

For a ready-made world, you could locate this on Rura Penthe from the Star Trek universe.

 

[KindredFlame]

Where would the sex come in? Well, I assume there are no cigarettes on Mars, so the only currency available is sex. The prisoners trade sexual favors with the guards (are there guards in this prison?) and each other for whatever luxuries are available: better quarters, extra food portions, the tiny amounts of drugs that get smuggled in, etc.

For a ready-made world, you could locate this on Rura Penthe from the Star Trek universe.

There are no guards and I didn’t put in my prelim if the first flight was mixed or just men. It’s on mars what isn’t dropped of doesn’t get there. I suppose it’s similar to the prison post I did a while ago.

 

[GuessImJamie]

This may not be a problem, SF Authors invent things all the time
(see Heisenberg compensator) to eliminate real world problems in their stories. NASA satellites to Mars have been damaged by Solar Radiation more than strong enough to kill humans outside the Magnetosphere. (Of course the moon is in the earth's magnetosphere.)

Using 1990s early 2000s technology, big rockets could boost vehicles (or space shuttles) that had sealed entry only pods that would land on the Penile, oops, Penal Planet. Colonists would open them because they contained desired items/ foodstuff from Earth. They also contain prisoners. Maybe all the prisoners aren't criminals, (see Botany Bay, GULAG, Muriel) but those an authoritarian regime found undesirable. Political prisoners likely have a more diverse skill set and would be more evenly matched gender wise

Just a couple random thoughts.

 

[bettiezyx]

Strongmen control the sex...

As described, the world w/o guards sets up the strongmen to concentrate their control, not only over sex and life and death, but also food and any other scarce resource that's needed (power, medicine, water, air, tools, you name it).

Such as:
https://scifieroticareviews.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/hold/

 

[LWulf]

For reference, the technology to make a dome that large, AND be able to withstand the dust storms, AND deal with the whole pressure (or lack thereof) issue AND not worry about the amount of solar radiation (Heisenberg Magnetosphere (as GuessImJaimie mentioned)), is not here yet. A cost productive way to avoid all of that would be to go underground, instead of above ground. All you have to do is go below about (at least) a foot of normal uncompacted earth (yes, yes, I know, it's not on earth, it's on mars) to inhibit any radiation issues.

If you could get one of those tunnel borer machines there, probably in parts because it's heavy, that could dig tunnels that people would then build private shelters into. Since there are no trees on mars, the only available resource to build any needs, would be all metal, and metal is in the ground, so everyone has to dig anyway. Basically, what that would be is a mining colony.
As long as the tunnels are cut into rock, then the air pressure would hold.

Much like Australia, and Georgia in America, this concept isn't without precedents. Prisoners transported elsewhere so whoever sent them doesn't have to deal with them anymore. Sadly, it isn't just dangerous criminals that get sent, it's just any undesirables in general, in previous ages, it could just be people who couldn't pay their taxes. Something similar in modern context could likewise happen.

For reference, were you talking about -120 to +20 C or F? You might mention that, but if they are underground, then all they need is a basic heat source started, and after that the ground would keep them well insulated.

Also, things like hydroponics light bulbs, even in your dome concept where "months of dust storms blot out the sunlight", wouldn't be something they can produce by digging in the soil. Sand can be heated (by burning what?) to form glass, but anything high technology produced items would need to be traded to obtain from the homeworld.

You can do anything you want as it's scifi, but if you want real world plausibility, that's how I'd go. You might want to strand the prisoners there, but previous prisoner colonies were actually traded with by their parent country. This allows them to sell any precious ore or gemstones, back with the homeworld, for money and then purchase goods they can't normally make locally, one such "purchased goods" might be mail-order brides, and thereby you have your intro to sex.

You mentioned two reference point times (why those?) one was in 1990, and the other was "ten years later" so 2000. but then you seemed to indicated an advancement in time where hierarchy has been established, so an ever later time period?
1990 - ground was broke in setting up the new penal colony
2000 - the first new "settlers" arrive.
2010 - here is where the story begins, years after everything has been established.

That's how I'd do it, unless you want to begin at the time of the first settlers arriving. In that case, you can't have a prearranged government already set up. Normally, in the past, the "jailers" sent the "colonists away to set up their own government, and establish order any which way from sunday. Normally, even the most hardened criminals start to get sensible when their lives are all at risk of failure of the colony (death). The potential for failure makes the story more believable. So...

 

[KindredFlame]

For reference, the technology to make a dome that large, AND be able to withstand the dust storms, AND deal with the whole pressure (or lack thereof) issue AND not worry about the amount of solar radiation (Heisenberg Magnetosphere (as GuessImJaimie mentioned)), is not here yet. A cost productive way to avoid all of that would be to go underground, instead of above ground. All you have to do is go below about (at least) a foot of normal uncompacted earth (yes, yes, I know, it's not on earth, it's on mars) to inhibit any radiation issues.

If you could get one of those tunnel borer machines there, probably in parts because it's heavy, that could dig tunnels that people would then build private shelters into. Since there are no trees on mars, the only available resource to build any needs, would be all metal, and metal is in the ground, so everyone has to dig anyway. Basically, what that would be is a mining colony.
As long as the tunnels are cut into rock, then the air pressure would hold.

Much like Australia, and Georgia in America, this concept isn't without precedents. Prisoners transported elsewhere so whoever sent them doesn't have to deal with them anymore. Sadly, it isn't just dangerous criminals that get sent, it's just any undesirables in general, in previous ages, it could just be people who couldn't pay their taxes. Something similar in modern context could likewise happen.

For reference, were you talking about -120 to +20 C or F? You might mention that, but if they are underground, then all they need is a basic heat source started, and after that the ground would keep them well insulated.

Also, things like hydroponics light bulbs, even in your dome concept where "months of dust storms blot out the sunlight", wouldn't be something they can produce by digging in the soil. Sand can be heated (by burning what?) to form glass, but anything high technology produced items would need to be traded to obtain from the homeworld.

You can do anything you want as it's scifi, but if you want real world plausibility, that's how I'd go. You might want to strand the prisoners there, but previous prisoner colonies were actually traded with by their parent country. This allows them to sell any precious ore or gemstones, back with the homeworld, for money and then purchase goods they can't normally make locally, one such "purchased goods" might be mail-order brides, and thereby you have your intro to sex.

You mentioned two reference point times (why those?) one was in 1990, and the other was "ten years later" so 2000. but then you seemed to indicated an advancement in time where hierarchy has been established, so an ever later time period?
1990 - ground was broke in setting up the new penal colony
2000 - the first new "settlers" arrive.
2010 - here is where the story begins, years after everything has been established.

That's how I'd do it, unless you want to begin at the time of the first settlers arriving. In that case, you can't have a prearranged government already set up. Normally, in the past, the "jailers" sent the "colonists away to set up their own government, and establish order any which way from sunday. Normally, even the most hardened criminals start to get sensible when their lives are all at risk of failure of the colony (death). The potential for failure makes the story more believable. So...

This is the basic premise.