Impeachment Thread

[jomar]

What political favor?

LOL. Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[Perfectly_shaped_buttocks]

In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of Fear

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/opinion/trump-senate-acquittal-impeachment.

 

[Secretive_Victoria]

At the hands of the Senate Republicans. Everyone remember that in November.

The Senate Republicans had the chance to uphold their constitutional duties by acting as impartial jurors and holding the president accountable for putting his personal interests above national security.

They chose not to.

Instead, Senate Republicans showed they’ll allow Donald Trump to do whatever he wants, including to encourage foreign governments to interfere with our elections.

They’ll even help him cover it up.

Today, Senate Republicans announced they have one interest: increasing their own power.

Not pursuing justice. Not helping working families. Not upholding their oath to defend the Constitution.

Trump’s impeachment trial was a rigged process from the start, with Mitch McConnell’s only goal being to reach a political outcome, not a just one.

 

[icanhelp1]

LOL. Move along, nothing to see here.

What favor and by whom does he receive political favor? How does investigating Hunter for corruption and conflict of interest become a favor. It’s only fair to investigate Trump during a presidential campaign.

 

[jomar]

What favor and by whom does he receive political favor? How does investigating Hunter for corruption and conflict of interest become a favor. It’s only fair to investigate Trump during a presidential campaign.

It’s been done and dusted for now. Republicans in Congress know Trump did what he was accused of but are either too afraid of him, worried about their own jobs, or both, to hold him accountable. Now that he’s been emboldened he’ll step on his dick with both feet and even McConnell won’t be able to look away.

 

[phrodeau]

I noticed that AG Barr demands any investigations of presidential candidates needs to be approved by his office.

That is sure to keep the Chinese from investigating the Bidens.

 

[YDB95]

He learned nothing from being impeached.

Wrong. He learned his enablers in the Senate will let him get away with just about anything.

 

[icanhelp1]

It’s been done and dusted for now. Republicans in Congress know Trump did what he was accused of but are either too afraid of him, worried about their own jobs, or both, to hold him accountable. Now that he’s been emboldened he’ll step on his dick with both feet and even McConnell won’t be able to look away.

Done and dusted! I don't think so! Senators Grassley ( finance com.) Graham ( judiciary com ) Johnson ( foreign relations ) have requested documents from the IRS and the State Department to open investigations on Hunter Biden, Burisma holdings, Rosemont Seneca Bohai, Devon Archer and sec Kerry for conflict of interest and possible money laundering. Combine all this senate activity with the Durham investigation, the Horowitz reports and FISA corruption will impact the Dems pretty significantly. Comey has already been referred for criminal prosecution.

 

[YDB95]

Done and dusted! I don't think so! Senators Grassley ( finance com.) Graham ( judiciary com ) Johnson ( foreign relations ) have requested documents from the IRS and the State Department to open investigations on Hunter Biden, Burisma holdings, Rosemont Seneca Bohai, Devon Archer and sec Kerry for conflict of interest and possible money laundering. Combine all this senate activity with the Durham investigation, the Horowitz reports and FISA corruption will impact the Dems pretty significantly. Comey has already been referred for criminal prosecution.

Here we go again, throwing away millions of dollars on a big nothing-burger, but next time there's a Democratic president we'll hear all manner of whining about deficits.

 

[icanhelp1]

Here we go again, throwing away millions of dollars on a big nothing-burger, but next time there's a Democratic president we'll hear all manner of whining about deficits.

We'll see. Like I said Comey was already referred for criminal prosecution. So far 2 FISA warrants have been found to be illegal which could lead to the entire Muller report a fraud and criminal. You keep believing it's a nothing burger. More deflection. Only the dems waste money on investigations, TDS!!

 

[gunthernehmen]

Here we go again, throwing away millions of dollars on a big nothing-burger, but next time there's a Democratic president we'll hear all manner of whining about deficits.

Nope.

You'll hear all manner of political action committees filling suits through the 187 new federal judges, busily obstructing reswampification.

You'll also hear the sound of a Republican Congress working through the gears of an impeachment of the latest King swamp rat.

 

[YDB95]

Only the dems waste money on investigations, TDS!!

It wasn't the Dems who spent $40 million on the Whitewater investigation and discovered the truth was...exactly what the Clintons had said it was years before.

 

[Boxlicker101]

It wasn't the Dems who spent $40 million on the Whitewater investigation and discovered the truth was...exactly what the Clintons had said it was years before.

Are you saying Clinton got a blow job I the Oval Office and didn't lie about it while under oath - a felony?

 

[gunthernehmen]

Are you saying Clinton got a blow job I the Oval Office and didn't lie about it while under oath - a felony?

I think he was talking about some real estate scandal before Clinton was president. Bunch of people got killed or money went missing. Something like that. So many scandals with them it's hard to keep up.

 

[YDB95]

Are you saying Clinton got a blow job I the Oval Office and didn't lie about it while under oath - a felony?

Even if your characterisation were accurate, that's irrelevant to Whitewater.

I think he was talking about some real estate scandal before Clinton was president. Bunch of people got killed or money went missing. Something like that. So many scandals with them it's hard to keep up.

No, there is no evidence whatsoever that anyone was killed. What did happen was that the Clintons lost a lot of money in a bad investment. That's what they said upfront in 1992, and that's all that was ever uncovered as far as their involvement was concerned. And it cost taxpayers $40 million, which is why I don't buy the Republicans' outrage about the cost of investigating any of Dolt 45's scandals.

 

[gunthernehmen]

No, there is no evidence whatsoever that anyone was killed. And it cost taxpayers $40 million

There was no evidence Trump said anything more than, "How's it hanging?" to the Ukraine guy, either.

So Whitewater was ALSO $40m or did I misread the cost of the Pelosi witch hunt?

 

[YDB95]

There was no evidence Trump said anything more than, "How's it hanging?" to the Ukraine guy, either.

Trump himself admitted he said a great deal more than that, before his staff managed to get it through his head that he shouldn't have. At least one senator who voted to acquit him said he was guilty but didn't deserve to be turned out of office for it.

And yes, the Whitewater investigation burned $40 million of taxpayer dollars to prove absolutely nothing.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Trump himself admitted he said a great deal more than that, before his staff managed to get it through his head that he shouldn't have. At least one senator who voted to acquit him said he was guilty but didn't deserve to be turned out of office for it.

And yes, the Whitewater investigation burned $40 million of taxpayer dollars to prove absolutely nothing.

Trump implemented foreign policy. That's his job.

 

[jomar]

Done and dusted! I don't think so! Senators Grassley ( finance com.) Graham ( judiciary com ) Johnson ( foreign relations ) have requested documents from the IRS and the State Department to open investigations on Hunter Biden, Burisma holdings, Rosemont Seneca Bohai, Devon Archer and sec Kerry for conflict of interest and possible money laundering. Combine all this senate activity with the Durham investigation, the Horowitz reports and FISA corruption will impact the Dems pretty significantly. Comey has already been referred for criminal prosecution.

Yes, done and dusted. Trump withheld approved funds to get a political favor and the senate gave its stamp of approval. I think Trump only gives a shit about corruption to the extent that corruption can help him or exposure of corruption can hurt others and help him.

I doubt the investigation you want on the Bidens will lead to anything, but if it does so be it.

As far as money laundering goes, let’s look into Trumps business dealings and see what we find.

 

[phrodeau]

Yes, done and dusted. Trump withheld approved funds to get a political favor and the senate gave its stamp of approval. I think Trump only gives a shit about corruption to the extent that corruption can help him or exposure of corruption can hurt others and help him.

I doubt the investigation you want on the Bidens will lead to anything, but if it does so be it.

As far as money laundering goes, let’s look into Trumps business dealings and see what we find.

We can’t. Trump’s business dealings are all on a classified server.

 

[gunthernehmen]

We can’t. Trump’s business dealings are all on a classified server.

I think Hillary bleached it.

 

[Perfectly_shaped_buttocks]

Legal experts say Trump's firing of Vindman is a federal crime

Former Southern District of New York (SDNY) federal prosecutor and CNN analyst Jennifer Rodgers agreed it is “witness retaliation.”

Prominent Republican attorney George Conway also offered his thoughts.

“What normally happens when a public official retaliates against a witness who testified about the public official’s criminal conduct is that the public official goes to prison,” Conway posted on the president’s favorite social networking platform.

MSNBC legal analyst former SDNY prosecutor Mimi Rocah said, “we truly live in a totalitarian regime now.”

“This isn’t the first use of government retaliation for perceived political ‘enemies’ but now he can proudly display his power,” Rocah explained.

CNN analyst and former prosecutor Elie Honig said it was “witness retaliation” under 18 USC 1513.

“This act is criminal, vindictive, and petty – and nobody in Trump’s orbit will do a damn thing about it,” Honig predicted.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/th...broke-the-law-by-firing-the-vindman-brothers/

 

[KeithD]

Legal experts say Trump's firing of Vindman is a federal crime

Former Southern District of New York (SDNY) federal prosecutor and CNN analyst Jennifer Rodgers agreed it is “witness retaliation.”

Prominent Republican attorney George Conway also offered his thoughts.

“What normally happens when a public official retaliates against a witness who testified about the public official’s criminal conduct is that the public official goes to prison,” Conway posted on the president’s favorite social networking platform.

MSNBC legal analyst former SDNY prosecutor Mimi Rocah said, “we truly live in a totalitarian regime now.”

“This isn’t the first use of government retaliation for perceived political ‘enemies’ but now he can proudly display his power,” Rocah explained.

CNN analyst and former prosecutor Elie Honig said it was “witness retaliation” under 18 USC 1513.

“This act is criminal, vindictive, and petty – and nobody in Trump’s orbit will do a damn thing about it,” Honig predicted.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/th...broke-the-law-by-firing-the-vindman-brothers/

I don't think this applies in this case. Vindman hasn't been fired from his career; he's been reassigned (Same, presumably, with his brother). Need to watch what happens to him on reassignment. What they should do is put him over some Ukraine research unit and promote him to colonel. It's still retaliation, though, and the Sec Defense declared there wouldn't be any. The only way he can deliver on that is to give Vindman an advancement assignment. His brother, who also was marched out of the White House, is an even better case to pursue. This was straight up vindictive. The brother wasn't involved in anything in the Ukraine case.

And then Susan Collins should be hounded out of office for her second example of feigned naivete.

Neither of the Vindman brothers are going to suffer in history. It's Trump and the Senate Republicans who are, collectively and individually, screwed in history. Marching the Vindmans out of the White House only adds anecdotes to this.

 

[Perfectly_shaped_buttocks]

Trump has been acting like the spoiled child who gets caught with his hand in the proverbial cookie jar – denying his hand was there, blaming the person who caught him, blaming the cookie jar, blaming the cookie, throwing a tantrum, daring his parents to do anything about it.

And now that the adults have failed to ground him, he's very loudly and publicly swearing revenge on the adults for catching him with his hand in the cookie in the first place.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Trump has been acting like the spoiled child who gets caught with his hand in the proverbial cookie jar – denying his hand was there, blaming the person who caught him, blaming the cookie jar, blaming the cookie, throwing a tantrum, daring his parents to do anything about it.

And now that the adults have failed to ground him, he's very loudly and publicly swearing revenge on the adults for catching him with his hand in the cookie in the first place.

No surprise there, kind of how he was raised by his parents I think.