How’s That Impeachment Going?

[SgtSpiderMan]

Now show us the Article of Impeachment for "Contempt of Congress".

It's like you idjits just can't help yourselves. You insist on believing shit that it's true.

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[icanhelp1]

Hey, stupid ass. He asked for the statute, try to keep up with the class, dudly.


Here is the second article of impeachment, try not to act like you understand it:


ARTICLE II: OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS

The Constitution provides that the House of Representatives “shall have the sole Power of Impeachment” and that the President “shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”. In his conduct of the office of President of the United States — and in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed —

Donald J. Trump has directed the unprecedented, categorical, and indiscriminate defiance of subpoenas issued by the House of Representatives pursuant to its “sole Power of Impeachment”. President Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency in a manner offensive to, and subversive of, the Constitution, in that:

The House of Representatives has engaged in an impeachment inquiry focused on President Trump’s corrupt solicitation of the Government of Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 United States Presidential election. As part of this impeachment inquiry, the Committees undertaking the investigation served subpoenas seeking documents and testimony deemed vital to the inquiry from various Executive Branch agencies and offices, and current and former officials.

In response, without lawful cause or excuse, President Trump directed Executive Branch agencies, offices, and officials not to comply with those subpoenas. President Trump thus interposed the powers of the Presidency against the lawful subpoenas of the House of Representatives, and assumed to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the “sole Power of Impeachment” vested by the Constitution in the House of Representatives


And the rest:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/10/us/politics/articles-impeachment-document-pdf.html



It was constitutionally done... and not up to you morons to decide it wasn't.

The article of impeachment, obstruction of congress by a president, is unconstitutional. The executive branch is in no way, shape or form..subordinate to congress. Why can't you get that tidbit through your thick skull. The house is the body that should be charged with abuse of power. With that being said the house never even attempted to subpoena Bolton, Pompeo or Mulvaney. Are you people even paying attention.

 

[bellisarius]

The article of impeachment, obstruction of congress by a president, is unconstitutional. The executive branch is in no way, shape or form..subordinate to congress. Why can't you get that tidbit through your thick skull. The house is the body that should be charged with abuse of power. With that being said the house never even attempted to subpoena Bolton, Pompeo or Mulvaney. Are you people even paying attention.

Because he's a moron. Congress didn't want to do it the right way, through the courts, because it "would take too long."

I expect that charge to be dismissed.

 

[phrodeau]

The article of impeachment, obstruction of congress by a president, is unconstitutional. The executive branch is in no way, shape or form..subordinate to congress. Why can't you get that tidbit through your thick skull. The house is the body that should be charged with abuse of power. With that being said the house never even attempted to subpoena Bolton, Pompeo or Mulvaney. Are you people even paying attention.

The House of Representatives is the power. It is We the People, and the power of We the People cannot be disputed. No article of impeachment issued by the House of Representatives can be unconstitutional, because We the People gave the House of Representatives the power of impeachment.

 

[Conager]

The House of Representatives is the power. It is We the People, and the power of We the People cannot be disputed. No article of impeachment issued by the House of Representatives can be unconstitutional, because We the People gave the House of Representatives the power of impeachment.

What a load of circular reasoning. By that rationale no law is unconstitutional because we the people gave the congress power to enact legislation.

 

[phrodeau]

What a load of circular reasoning. By that rationale no law is unconstitutional because we the people gave the congress power to enact legislation.

Have you read the Constitution?

We the People created the Judicial branch in order to check the laws made by the other two branches. And yes, all enacted laws are constitutional until challenged and found to be otherwise by the Judicial branch.

The Chief Justice presides over the impeachment trial. There is no other judicial review for impeachment.

 

[HisArpy]

What a load of circular reasoning. By that rationale no law is unconstitutional because we the people gave the congress power to enact legislation.

That's the typical horseshit mentality that passes for reasoning amongst the Demmies. "We can do whatever we want because the people elected us" is somehow different than "Even though voters elected him no one is above the law. Not even Donald Trump."


Here's an interesting thought that might take this thread in a different direction:

Has anyone wondered if the Articles of Impeachment are intentionally flawed in the way they are?

There is no Constitutional basis to the named charges contained in the Articles. So, one sort of wonders why the charges were framed the way they are. Could it be intentional? Possibly. Paleosi knows what happens if they remove Trump. They get Pence as Prez and the economy just might flip into negative territory. Plus, for Paleosi to be named as VP she has to be nominated by the new President AND be confirmed by both houses of Congress. Something that ain't gonna happen, no way, no how.

So, what better way to appease the frigging lunatics than to draft Articles that can't lead to removal. They SOUND good, but they're useless at achieving the end goal of getting rid of the most hated man in the Demmie party. It also preserves Paleiosi's "legacy" and keeps the country from falling flat on it's face from something that is DIRECTLY attributable to the Demmies.

As a possum once said - it's possible, it's possible.

 

[SpeareChucker]

It's hard to draft anything rational when
you are being driven by pure emotion...

 

[BotanyBoy]

The House of Representatives is the power. It is We the People, and the power of We the People cannot be disputed. No article of impeachment issued by the House of Representatives can be unconstitutional, because We the People gave the House of Representatives the power of impeachment.

Sorry to burst your bubble Phro but the HoR is not a god like entity that gets to do whatever it wants.

No matter how much (D)eez stamp their feeties.

It's hard to draft anything rational when
you are being driven by pure emotion...

Ain't that the truth.

 

[Heathergave]

I heard he is still impeached President Trump and will be forever.

 

[Rightguide]

I fixed it for you because you're a fucking moron.

"According to the Constitution and the laws..." The articles do not conform to the Constitution, they insult the Constitution, you mind numbing idiot. To do "impartial justice" would be to dismiss the unconstitutional charges for the sake of the Constitution itself.

 

[SpeareChucker]

I heard he is still impeached President Trump and will be forever.

Like the way the Left never fails to give Impeached President Clinton
his full and rightful title?

 

[Heathergave]

Like the way the Left never fails to give Impeached President Clinton
his full and rightful title?

The right are the only ones who invoke Clinton's name into every discussion. He is irrelevant in 2020.

 

[SpeareChucker]

*chuckle*


The expected double standard:
Trump gets a label forever,
Clinton is not relevant BUT

He is most certainly still impeached...

 

[Milli3736]

He is a con man

Is not also true that impeached lefty president Clinton left the economy with a surplus...While multiple bankrupter impeached President Trump is burning through Govt money like the a man who could not make money on owning a casino.......Just saying.....

 

[cowslinger64]

Has anyone wondered if the Articles of Impeachment are intentionally flawed in the way they are?

/QUOTE]

I cut out all the rest of your bullshit. That's all it is, dudly.


Was it intentionally written that way to leave us where we are at this moment? It could be possible. Personally, I'd say so the two parties could come to an agreement on how it all should play out. But there is no way they could have ever planned for someone like trump, and no that is not a good thing. This do whatever he wants, the ways he uses twitter and other social media to trash anyone that doesn't agree with him or do his bidding, the way he orders people to blow off investigations and subpoenas and the extent to which he does.... and the way he uses our attorney general as his personal attorney and the courts to put off rulings that are important now..

He's a constitutional train wreck...and the spineless republicans let him get away with it, and you idiots cheer him on.


Like it or not, the dems did not break the law or constitution in impeaching the orange trainwreck.


Lots of people actually qualified agree with that.... over the opinions of a bunch of right wing ball lickers.

 

[bellisarius]

That's the typical horseshit mentality that passes for reasoning amongst the Demmies. "We can do whatever we want because the people elected us" is somehow different than "Even though voters elected him no one is above the law. Not even Donald Trump."


Here's an interesting thought that might take this thread in a different direction:

Has anyone wondered if the Articles of Impeachment are intentionally flawed in the way they are?

There is no Constitutional basis to the named charges contained in the Articles. So, one sort of wonders why the charges were framed the way they are. Could it be intentional? Possibly. Paleosi knows what happens if they remove Trump. They get Pence as Prez and the economy just might flip into negative territory. Plus, for Paleosi to be named as VP she has to be nominated by the new President AND be confirmed by both houses of Congress. Something that ain't gonna happen, no way, no how.

So, what better way to appease the frigging lunatics than to draft Articles that can't lead to removal. They SOUND good, but they're useless at achieving the end goal of getting rid of the most hated man in the Demmie party. It also preserves Paleiosi's "legacy" and keeps the country from falling flat on it's face from something that is DIRECTLY attributable to the Demmies.

As a possum once said - it's possible, it's possible.

I can't buy into that. I think Gowdy has the right of it, it's all about the senate elections. They're betting their base will be more fired up about a senate aquital than Trump's base will be pissed off that they went through with this charade to begin with.

 

[Heathergave]

*chuckle*


The expected double standard:
Trump gets a label forever,
Clinton is not relevant BUT

He is most certainly still impeached...

Did I say he wasn't impeached? No. You're just whining because I don't talk about him to take attention away from impeached president trump.
I didn't vote for Clinton.
I didn't vote for Bush
I didn't vote for Obama
I didn't vote for Trump
I have no double standard, that's you.

 

[Heathergave]

Is not also true that impeached lefty president Clinton left the economy with a surplus...While multiple bankrupter impeached President Trump is burning through Govt money like the a man who could not make money on owning a casino.......Just saying.....

But he got his dick sucked...

 

[SpeareChucker]

Doesn't matter.

If everyone is going to insist on the phrase Impeached President Trump
then they should apply the same standard to Impeached President Clinton.

If not then someone is engaging in rank hypocrisy.

 

[SpeareChucker]

PS - I didn't vote for any of those guys either...

 

[cowslinger64]

Doesn't matter.

If everyone is going to insist on the phrase Impeached President Trump
then they should apply the same standard to Impeached President Clinton.

If not then someone is engaging in rank hypocrisy.

Go ahead.. no one cares.


The current president has been impeached. Clinton has been gone nearly 20 years.

 

[Rightguide]

I can't buy into that. I think Gowdy has the right of it, it's all about the senate elections. They're betting their base will be more fired up about a senate aquital than Trump's base will be pissed off that they went through with this charade to begin with.

But as of now their base is insufficient to flip the Senate, in fact the opposite might happen, again. They may lose seats. Democrats are said to be leaving the party in droves as well as independents. They have allowed their far left base to move the party into the socialist orbit that productive freedom loving Americans will reject at the polls.

 

[Rightguide]

Doesn't matter.

If everyone is going to insist on the phrase Impeached President Trump
then they should apply the same standard to Impeached President Clinton.

If not then someone is engaging in rank hypocrisy.

The Democrat Party media will refer to Trump's impeachment every time his name is mentioned in their pursuit of mass propaganda and ongoing indoctrination of the Cowslingers of America.

 

[Conager]

Doesn't matter.

If everyone is going to insist on the phrase Impeached President Trump
then they should apply the same standard to Impeached President Clinton.

If not then someone is engaging in rank hypocrisy.

*nods*

He is "impeached FOREVVVVER!!!"