IS fighters rejoice at the death of Quasem Soleimani

[DeYaKen]

One wonders why the prez didn't see this side? Was he too focussed on re-election?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51021861

 

[icanhelp1]

One wonders why the prez didn't see this side? Was he too focussed on re-election?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51021861

I agree with the article on its face. I would also say anyone with a military background would disagree with the perception that we took him out without having a general idea of the consequences. ISIS is an equal opportunity terrorist, they hate Iranians as much as they hate US and coalition forces. The US needs to take the invitation to leave Iraq seriously, and pull back to Jordan, SA, Israel, Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and defend our interest in those countries and provide logistical support for Iraqi Kurds. The real threat to the ME is not ISIS it's Turkey's expansion vs Iranian expansion and a soon to be in conflict with Russia/Syria vs Turkey and Israel. This is and has been a religious conflict and we need to get the fuck out, let Russia and China overextend themselves. If Iran needs to be denied nuclear weapons then it needs to be a global effort and I don't think the EU has the stomach for it, they want trade with Iran at all cost.

 

[bodysong]

It is useful to Presiderp Twerp Trumpypants to pretend
that only one side of the coin, exists- ignoring the internal
contents, the slim strip surrounding them, the other side of
the coin-

ignore reality- after, all...

It is not "Big Stuff" *

*

"Big Stuff" generates headlines and controversy

"Big Stuff" can be used as a weapon

"Big Stuff" impacts American Presiderp's presidential campaign,
his campaign cash, and his personal finances, and the fortunes
of his immediate family, those that contribute to his campaign.

 

[DeYaKen]

I agree with the article on its face. I would also say anyone with a military background would disagree with the perception that we took him out without having a general idea of the consequences.

That's odd because that is exactly what we did in Lybia and Iraq. We took out Gadaffi without a thought of what would happen afterwards. The result is a country in chaos run by a number of warlords who are still fighting amongst themselves. In Iraq, we topple Hussein without any plan of how to replace him. Now we have a country that is still out of control. It has been overrun by IS and is now controlled by Iran and the US. As soon as Syria is back on their feet they will be in there.

When it comes to the Middle East it would seem that thinking of the consequences is not on the agenda.

 

[colddiesel]

That's odd because that is exactly what we did in Lybia and Iraq. We took out Gadaffi without a thought of what would happen afterwards. The result is a country in chaos run by a number of warlords who are still fighting amongst themselves. In Iraq, we topple Hussein without any plan of how to replace him. Now we have a country that is still out of control. It has been overrun by IS and is now controlled by Iran and the US. As soon as Syria is back on their feet they will be in there.

When it comes to the Middle East it would seem that thinking of the consequences is not on the agenda.

Isn't the logical conclusion of your observation the breakup of Iraq amongst its neighbours. Kurds get the Kurdish bits for their own nation, Iran takes on the Shia part in the South and the desert remaining can be divided up between Syria SA and Jordan. The best part of that solution would be that those groups would then fight each other even more - but at least we would be outa there.

Remember that Iraq was never a nation. It was an idea created in the British foreign office in 1919 as a means of punishing Turkey.

 

[icanhelp1]

That's odd because that is exactly what we did in Lybia and Iraq. We took out Gadaffi without a thought of what would happen afterwards. The result is a country in chaos run by a number of warlords who are still fighting amongst themselves. In Iraq, we topple Hussein without any plan of how to replace him. Now we have a country that is still out of control. It has been overrun by IS and is now controlled by Iran and the US. As soon as Syria is back on their feet they will be in there.

When it comes to the Middle East it would seem that thinking of the consequences is not on the agenda.

The military did their job then the politicians took over.

We should of finished the job in the first gulf war and then gotten the fuck out but for the exact reason you indicated we left HUSSEIN in charge and how did that work out.

Trump took out a terrorist not a head of state, he didn't invade a country.

Libya was a clusterfuck no doubt, it was a civilian nato coalition that agreed to take him out. Benghazi was dereliction of duty by Obama, Clinton, Rice and Power and very avoidable.