Climate continues to change.

[Hal9000_]

Seems to me, a 10% reduction today, leads to 20% tomorrow, to 50% in a decade to total mitigation in 2 decades...then we only have natural causes that are harder to manipulate. But can still be manipulated.

Nope. Every change must be instantaneous. We must all immediately live in mud huts with dung burning stoves. Gradual shifting away from carbon sourced fuels is not an option.

Or even carbon sequestering to recapture most of what we burn. Nope. That will "destroy the environment". As well as wave and tidal power. Hydroeletcric is fine, though. Huge dams are good. Same with nuclear power plants. If ONLY they weren't regulated! They could store all that waste wherever they wanted!

 

[sparkylitesthefuze]

https://www.barnorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/morning_picdump-46-14.jpg

 

[gunthernehmen]

https://www.barnorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/morning_picdump-46-14.jpg

The Luddites will never believe you.

 

[CandiCame]

My insult wasnt directed at Candy...but that went over your head like everything else.

1: Candi
2: Idk man, maybe he's high. Like that kinda baked where you barely know where you're at.

 

[CandiCame]

You've all made it quite clear that climate change activist don't have to conserve.

You want primitive? I live in a shack in the woods that I built myself. Like... that's how I do.

 

[heathergives]

You want primitive? I live in a shack in the woods that I built myself. Like... that's how I do.

Kinda like Ted Kaczynski?

 

[Hal9000_]

How many times has humanity looked back and said, in hindsight, "WTF were we thinking"?

And we have changed. And the world didn't end.

 

[gunthernehmen]

How many times has humanity looked back and said, in hindsight, "WTF were we thinking"?

And we have changed. And the world didn't end.

That's pretty much been my point LOL

 

[Dribble]

How many times has humanity looked back and said, in hindsight, "WTF were we thinking"?

And we have changed. And the world didn't end.

Oh...the world will survive. It has a long history. Humans have been a blip in time...not a very big data set. They deserve better.

 

[Dribble]

Let me go ask the Incans...Aztecs...Mayans...Sumarians...Egyptians...Greeceans...Romans...how well they survived their fuck ups...

Will humans survive? Of course. Will our lives be better off? History says no.


Edit: Historically, how many bad decisions have humans made that have global consequences? I will wait for an example

 

[trysail]

You really should get treatment for your delusion and, especially, for your anxiety disorder.

I understand that there are effective therapies and efficacious drugs.






On the other hand— regretfully— there's but one cure for "young and stupid." That cure is, of course, age and experience.


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[Dribble]

As I figured...no answer from one of our dumber contributors. Fortunately, someone else surely has an answer. I will wait

 

[Dribble]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ow-long-before-the-midwest-runs-out-of-water/


This of course assumes no change in replenishment. Only problem...what happens when the jet stream changes, as it will, as it has done in the past? I wonder...is there a link between ocean water temperatures and where the rain goes? Interesting...I bet our non-science friends can explain that to us. Convince me.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Let me go ask the Incans...Aztecs...Mayans...Sumarians...Egyptians...Greeceans...Romans...how well they survived their fuck ups...

Will humans survive? Of course. Will our lives be better off? History says no.


Edit: Historically, how many bad decisions have humans made that have global consequences? I will wait for an example

Then why have you been arguing with me all this time? You're making MY arguments.

 

[Dribble]

Then why have you been arguing with me all this time? You're making MY arguments.

Because you are an idiot. You think you understand what I am saying, that I am supporting your argument...and nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Because you are an idiot. You think you understand what I am saying, that I am supporting your argument...and nothing could be further from the truth.

Fine, if you want to go back to human sacrifice and shit go ahead. I'm keeping things just as they are, which is exactly what you all will be doing too, because you're hypocrites.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Happy Thanksgiving to all that celebrate it, by the way.

Be thankful for all that you have. I am.

 

[Dribble]

Be thankful...you will be long dead leaving the cleanup to those you dont give a fuck about. That is ok....we dont need you to work on the issues. Be thankful for those that care. It is us, that will make sure the human race continues.

 

[OldJourno]

Be thankful...you will be long dead leaving the cleanup to those you dont give a fuck about. That is ok....we dont need you to work on the issues. Be thankful for those that care. It is us, that will make sure the human race continues.

Aren't you noble.

 

[trysail]

It's gotten to the point where you can't help but wonder what these yokels are going to do when a light bulb eventually goes off and they suddenly wake up to the fact that there hasn't been anywhere near the warming that the entrail readers and soothsayers predicted.


I suppose they'll just fade away into silence and obscurity just as the doomcasters who promoted the super-scientific, infallible The Limits To Growth computer model forecasts.


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[thør]

Rosatom is betting $7B on warming due to climatic change.

I realize it's not a LOT of money, but then, it is a big pile.

 

[Dribble]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/27/asi...llion-investment-needed-in-next-10-years.html

Everything...every single human...depends on water. No water...no food. So if the water goes elsewhere...where will we get the water to feed us...let alone the World? It wont happen...cause it is all fake news. Yet...it is...

Argue for your limitations, and so they shall be yours. Saying there is nothing we can do, guarantees you will never find a solution. But 10 years ago, people said electric cars had no future. Yet today, not a single manufacturer worldwide is not transitioning to building ONLY electric cars. Same is true for coal powered plants...why use coal when natural gas is not only cleaner...but cheaper?

Fortunately, those that say there is nothing we can do, even though they yell loudly, are not the ones driving innovation.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Be thankful...you will be long dead leaving the cleanup to those you dont give a fuck about. That is ok....we dont need you to work on the issues. Be thankful for those that care. It is us, that will make sure the human race continues.

Speak for yourself. YOU are the one refusing to lift a finger to solve the problem. You don't even understand what the problem IS.

 

[trysail]

"Wholesale electricity prices in Germany have increased by about 13 percent in 2019", or as they say on the BBC, "renewables are getting ever-cheaper".

-Andrew W. Montford
("Bishop Hill")​

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[thør]

Electric cars - maybe not the best choice for long drives in winter.