Story removal

[BoBoJoe]

I have tried for almost two weeks to get someone to take down my content. I want to publish my work and I can't even get it copyrighted while it is still up here. I don't know who Laurel is, but supposedly she has two emails from me ten days apart asking for a resolution to this situation. As well, two days ago I emailed support, and have yet to hear from either of them.

This is really binding me up. I've got all this excitement in finally having the balls to put myself out there and I can't get an email back. What do we need to do to get this done?

 

[RejectReality]

Emails go through a draconian spam filter. You need to check your spam box for a validation email. Unless you go through that process, the emails don't get delivered. They're stuck in limbo.

Alternately, there's the method of using the queue. Start a new submission, call it "Delete My Stuff" Fill out everything else with placeholders, as they don't matter.

Then, in the "Notes" section, say you're removing all your work because you're going to publish it. Copy-paste that into the "Story Text" section, just because there has to be something there to submit. Scroll down, preview, and submit. Should only take the standard couple of days for things to go through the queue.

Keep in mind that even once it is processed in the queue, it will probably take an additional 24 hours for it to vanish from public view due to caching of the site. This is true no matter how they are removed.

Finally, there's the option of sending a PM to Laurel. Her profile can be most easily located as the thread starter for virtually everything in the "Contests" section of the forum.

You also don't need to remove your stuff from here to get a copyright. There is no such requirement from the U.S. Copyright Office, anyway. Perhaps if you're going through a third party such as your publisher, but it's not necessary if you're doing it yourself.

You may also consider asking that your stories aren't deleted, but rather "removed from view" because you're going to publish. They will show up as "Sent Back" in your control panel, most likely with the reason "As per your request".

Then, should you decide at any point, for whatever reason, to put your stories back on Lit, you can have them restored with all existing statistics intact.

 

[RejectReality]

Forgot to say, make sure your PMs are turned on if you plan to go that route.

http://forum.literotica.com/profile.php?do=editoptions

That's the page, and the setting is about halfway down.

 

[BoBoJoe]

Thank you for that, but the only reason I mentioned it was because it mentioned it when i was filling out the copyright form. Said that it couldn't be published. Maybe I read it wrong. Either way, I'm sure I verified, or at the very least I've been searching my spam throughout this.

Your plan sounds decent, though. A shame I should have to go through those lengths, but I will do it. Thank you again.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Thank you for that, but the only reason I mentioned it was because it mentioned it when i was filling out the copyright form. Said that it couldn't be published. Maybe I read it wrong. Either way, I'm sure I verified, or at the very least I've been searching my spam throughout this.

Your plan sounds decent, though. A shame I should have to go through those lengths, but I will do it. Thank you again.

What copyright form? Lit doesn't have a copyright form, and Lit doesn't care if you publish elsewhere. Your other platform might want an exclusive licence for your content - but unless they are paying you for exclusive content, they have no right to demand that (you own your own copyright) - and anyway, unless you tell them, how would they know?

 

[BoBoJoe]

What copyright form? Lit doesn't have a copyright form, and Lit doesn't care if you publish elsewhere. Your other platform might want an exclusive licence for your content - but unless they are paying you for exclusive content, they have no right to demand that (you own your own copyright) - and anyway, unless you tell them, how would they know?

copyright.gov's form. And Kindle demands exclusivity.

 

[RejectReality]

https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#published

Does my work have to be published to be protected?
Publication is not necessary for copyright protection.

The only thing in the FAQs says that you don't have to be published in order to file for copyright, rather than saying you cannot be published before filing.

 

[BoBoJoe]

https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#published

Does my work have to be published to be protected?
Publication is not necessary for copyright protection.

The only thing in the FAQs says that you don't have to be published in order to file for copyright, rather than saying you cannot be published before filing.

"The works you are registering must be unpublished. Publication results from the distribution of copies of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease or lending. A work is also "published" if there has been an offering to distribute copies to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display. A public performance or display does not, by itself, constitute "publication".

If the Copyright Office determines that these works have been published, your application may be refused or there may be delays in the examination of your claim that could require the payment of an additional fee and a later effective date of registration for your claim."

This is what has me worried and waiting.

 

[RejectReality]

Did you get that from the new group registration of unpublished works section? That's a whole different animal, and actually unavailable to you. You've already published those works by the copyright office's definition, and removing them from here isn't really going to change that. There are all sorts of internet archive sites where they'll still be available.

Once you've put it out in the wild, you're no longer eligible for that new option.

There's no such restriction on copyright of single works, or anthologies ( you can group multiple stories together under a single title and copyright all of the text under a single registration )

 

[ElectricBlue]

"The works you are registering must be unpublished. Publication results from the distribution of copies of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease or lending. A work is also "published" if there has been an offering to distribute copies to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display. A public performance or display does not, by itself, constitute "publication".

If the Copyright Office determines that these works have been published, your application may be refused or there may be delays in the examination of your claim that could require the payment of an additional fee and a later effective date of registration for your claim."

This is what has me worried and waiting.

If you've published on Lit (which I suppose falls under "lending" since there is no money involved) then by that criteria your horse has bolted. You've published.

You still own the copyright though (and can use the © mark), in terms of what KDP is asking - which is, incidentally, draconian, since they pay you nothing for your content (but gouge everything out of your price).

Owning copyright and registering it (so you can defend your rights if someone steals it) are two entirely different things. Don't get confused - and for a piece of smut that might get bought if you're lucky, does it really matter if it's registered or not?

Besides, unless you tell KDP it's on Lit, how would they know?