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I listened. On the one hand there are good reasons for getting the hearings over with promptly, and on the other there are also good reasons for getting subpoenas issued - if only to get the individuals "refusal to explain to the American Public" on the record.

This hearing isn't so much about getting a successful impeachment (because it's obvious how the Senate will vote) as exposing the administrations dishonesty and lack of fitness to hold office. The D's have made a lot of progress on that.

So, you enjoy exposing the corruption of the Trump Administration but cover up the corruption of the Vice President of the last Administration?

How even handed of you.

And let's not start with the crap about Biden not getting anything of "personal gain". HIS FUCKING SON benefited from Burisma having direct access to the VP of the US who oversaw the foreign aid programs under which Burisma operated.

So, if Trump's "personal gain" is "getting dirt on his political rivals", then Biden's "person gain" was assisting a direct family member in becoming instantly mega wealthy in a field he had absolutely NO expertise or experience in.

Yet, you say that one is corruption and the other merely coincidence. You say that Trump is corrupt because he didn't want to give more aid to a corrupt government, but Biden isn't corrupt because it's different that Hunter Biden was on the Board of Directors for a company run by a man YOU FUCKING ADMIT was a corrupt bastard.

Yeah, that's not convincing in the least bit.

Everybody in that room is talking to voters. It's about an election. ;)

It is.

Unfortunately for the Dem's:

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/11/20/us/ap-us-wisconsin-poll.html

https://www.syracuse.com/news/2019/11/poll-support-for-trump-impeachment-declines-in-upstate-ny.html

https://www.politico.com/blogs/poli...port-for-impeachment-inquiry-declines-1522999


So, it seems as if voters have seen through the piles of Schiff that's being spread around in the HoR and MSM. Next November will not be a surprise to anyone except those who believe that Trump will be impeached and defeated.
 
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I don't think so.

The Republican leadership, under orders from Trump, had their chance to provide documents and witnesses, and most of them refused to comply. Just chalk it up as obstruction of Congress in one of the Articles of Impeachment.

There is sufficient evidence to impeach for attempted bribery at this point, and no good reason to delay on that. I favor wrapping up the impeachment hearings, and voting on the articles before the holiday recess.

Let the Senate do whatever the Senate is going to do next January, and watch Trump like a hawk regarding additional attempts by him to solicit foreign influence into the next election.

He is an attention pig, like most of his cult followers on the GB. At some point, you need to cut off the attention for sick people like this and move to the next order of business.

There is zero evidence. Plenty of wishful thinking though. Plenty of disgruntled unelected, self centered, bureaucrats though. Maybe they should resign and run for office if they don't like Trump's policy.
 
Nunes: Dems' position is that Trump almost committed a crime.

Anyone of moderate intelligence: "attempted murder" is a crime, as are a host of other "attempteds". :cool:
 
Nunes: Dems' position is that Trump almost committed a crime.

Anyone of moderate intelligence: "attempted murder" is a crime, as are a host of other "attempteds". :cool:

It's pretty bad when you have to resort to the Sideshow Bob defense.

Nunes is a mental midget.
 
Nunes: Dems' position is that Trump almost committed a crime.

Anyone of moderate intelligence: "attempted murder" is a crime, as are a host of other "attempteds". :cool:

Not to mention things like 'incitement to riot' where you don't have to be involved in the riot itself. Donny certainly 'incited' others here.
 
There is zero evidence. Plenty of wishful thinking though. Plenty of disgruntled unelected, self centered, bureaucrats though. Maybe they should resign and run for office if they don't like Trump's policy.

Typical GBRightWingCircleJerk ignorant and uninformed commentary. Disparage highly educated, expert career public servants in favor of narcissistic politicians like Trump whose “policy” is to align with Russia over Ukraine. You have exceeded your usual level of stupid.
 
Typical GBRightWingCircleJerk ignorant and uninformed commentary. Disparage highly educated, expert career public servants in favor of narcissistic politicians like Trump whose “policy” is to align with Russia over Ukraine. You have exceeded your usual level of stupid.

You have surrendered your American Identity. You'd be a good fit in Cuba or Red China where unelected bureaucrats decide everything and elections mean nothing. The American people, through the election of their President, determine the foreign policy of the United States, not unelected career bureaucrats. If bureaucrats don't like it they can resign and run for election.
 
You have surrendered your American Identity. You'd be a good fit in Cuba or Red China where unelected bureaucrats decide everything and elections mean nothing. The American people, through the election of their President, determine the foreign policy of the United States, not unelected career bureaucrats. If bureaucrats don't like it they can resign and run for election.

I won’t agree that the American people voted for a foreign policy that would favor Russia over Ukraine. You and your ilk are the ones who reject America and what it stands for.

Fiona Hill has likely told fewer lies in her lifetime than your President tells in one day.
 
Report: Dems think they're all set re: witnesses; don't need to wait for Bolton.
 
Report: Dems think they're all set re: witnesses; don't need to wait for Bolton.

Yes!

Bolton missed his chance to defend his country, and Trump missed his chance to provide documents and material witnesses. Write up that obstruction as an additional Article of Impeachment, and move on!
 
I won’t agree that the American people voted for a foreign policy that would favor Russia over Ukraine. You and your ilk are the ones who reject America and what it stands for.

Fiona Hill has likely told fewer lies in her lifetime than your President tells in one day.

She was full of crap about Ukraine not being involved against the Trump campaign. The evidence is already in the public domain and the Republicans are going to bring this out. In 2015 she wrote an article in the WaPo against military aid to Ukraine while working for the leftist Brookings Institution.
 
Yes!

Bolton missed his chance to defend his country, and Trump missed his chance to provide documents and material witnesses. Write up that obstruction as an additional Article of Impeachment, and move on!

Agreed. It's time.
 
She was full of crap about Ukraine not being involved against the Trump campaign. The evidence is already in the public domain and the Republicans are going to bring this out. In 2015 she wrote an article in the WaPo against military aid to Ukraine while working for the leftist Brookings Institution.

And she served at the pleasure of the President for nearly three years, reporting to Conservative Hawk and War Monger John Bolton.

There are about three of you tinfoil hat morons left still advancing these completely debunked conspiracy theories.
 
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Dr. Hill seems ignorant of the facts:



Presidential Transition
Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire


Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN

01/11/2017 05:05 AM EST

Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
 
Yeah sure. I could have put up matters concerning Alexandra Chalupa as well.

But you didn't, Vette.

Because it doesn't matter. You're just yapping and padding it out now, sitting around waiting for more deflections to come down the internet pipeline for you to meme out. :D
 
When all you have is "Nuh, UHHH!" Say so. Don't dress it up with you gratuitous "debunked" assertion.
 
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