House Impeachment Hearings

[Rightguide]

Serious question: How common is that American citizens are offered cabinet positions in foreign governments?


NOW: Vindman telling GOP's counsel that he was offered the position of Ukrainian minister of defense earlier this year, but repeatedly turned it down.

And told his supervisors about the offer.

"I'm an American", Vindman says, about why he turned it down.

An American born in Ukraine who has been over zealous in his support of Ukraine and who has diminished the United States military in conversations with foreign representatives in Europe and was reprimanded for it by a superior officer. Marie Yovanovitch was born in Canada. Alexandra Chalupa working for the DNC was born in Ukraine. Eric Ciaramella Is a Ukraine Expert for the CIA. He was Joe Biden's point man on Ukraine. Ciaramella has ties to Sean Misko, a former NSC co-worker who now works for Representative Adam Schiff. He has ties to Democrats, including Biden, Schiff, John Brennan, James Clapper and former National Security Adviser Susan Rice. They are all connected. They all had a part in starting the Russian collusion narrative. All are part of the ongoing seditious Deep State coup attempting to remove the duly elected President from office.

 

[Rightguide]

Meanwhile, back in the Reality-based world...
Vindman says he tried, and failed, to correct omissions in Trump call summary

Nobody agreed with his opinion of the call.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Nobody agreed with his opinion of the call.

NSC legal counsel John Eisenberg did, he knew it was politcally damaging if Trump's bribery attempt was made public, so Eisenberg aided and abetted Trump's bribery attempt by moving the transcript to the "secure" server and ordering LTC Vindman to not discuss it.

 

[Emerson40]

An American born in Ukraine who has been over zealous in his support of Ukraine and who has diminished the United States military in conversations with foreign representatives in Europe and was reprimanded for it by a superior officer. Marie Yovanovitch was born in Canada. Alexandra Chalupa working for the DNC was born in Ukraine. Eric Ciaramella Is a Ukraine Expert for the CIA. He was Joe Biden's point man on Ukraine. Ciaramella has ties to Sean Misko, a former NSC co-worker who now works for Representative Adam Schiff. He has ties to Democrats, including Biden, Schiff, John Brennan, James Clapper and former National Security Adviser Susan Rice. They are all connected. They all had a part in starting the Russian collusion narrative. All are part of the ongoing seditious Deep State coup attempting to remove the duly elected President from office.

And they all meet for pizza, 2nd Thursday of every month, at Comet Ping Pong.


Vetteman, we can always depend on you to deliver the crazy, you coprophilic, partisan crank.

 

[von_Bismarck]

An American born in Ukraine who has been over zealous in his support of Ukraine and who has diminished the United States military in conversations with foreign representatives in Europe and was reprimanded for it by a superior officer. Marie Yovanovitch was born in Canada. Alexandra Chalupa working for the DNC was born in Ukraine. Eric Ciaramella Is a Ukraine Expert for the CIA. He was Joe Biden's point man on Ukraine. Ciaramella has ties to Sean Misko, a former NSC co-worker who now works for Representative Adam Schiff. He has ties to Democrats, including Biden, Schiff, John Brennan, James Clapper and former National Security Adviser Susan Rice. They are all connected. They all had a part in starting the Russian collusion narrative. All are part of the ongoing seditious Deep State coup attempting to remove the duly elected President from office.

Jesus.

 

[Rightguide]

NSC legal counsel John Eisenberg did, he knew it was politcally damaging if Trump's bribery attempt was made public, so Eisenberg aided and abetted Trump's bribery attempt by moving the transcript to the "secure" server and ordering LTC Vindman to not discuss it.

No need to lie Rob. The word "bribery" has only been used once in 3500 pages of testimony by ten witnesses that has up till now been released and it was used in regard to actions by Biden, not trump.

Write this down: Vindman is the source of the leak that led to the complaint of the "whistleblower."

 

[cowslinger64]

An American born in Ukraine who has been over zealous in his support of Ukraine and who has diminished the United States military in conversations with foreign representatives in Europe and was reprimanded for it by a superior officer. Marie Yovanovitch was born in Canada. Alexandra Chalupa working for the DNC was born in Ukraine. Eric Ciaramella Is a Ukraine Expert for the CIA. He was Joe Biden's point man on Ukraine. Ciaramella has ties to Sean Misko, a former NSC co-worker who now works for Representative Adam Schiff. He has ties to Democrats, including Biden, Schiff, John Brennan, James Clapper and former National Security Adviser Susan Rice. They are all connected. They all had a part in starting the Russian collusion narrative. All are part of the ongoing seditious Deep State coup attempting to remove the duly elected President from office.

Damn..how many rolls of foil does it take to make your hat? Gawd, you're an idiot.

Trump could clear up a lot of this by being transparent...and testifying under oath.


Of course he'd be on his way to jail at that moment.

 

[Rightguide]

Jesus.

They all need to start praying for leniency from john Durham.

 

[jomar]

No need to lie Rob. The word "bribery" has only been used once in 3500 pages of testimony by ten witnesses that has up till now been released and it was used in regard to actions by Biden, not trump.

...

And Schiff clarified why. Nice spin attempt, though.

 

[Rightguide]

And Schiff clarified why. Nice spin attempt, though.

Was there something I said in that post that isn't true?

 

[bestone4ever]

Was there something I said in that post that isn't true?

The part where you said that you read all 3500 pages, retard.

 

[Rightguide]

You mean we should believe teh DEFENSE MINISTER of YOU CRANE over OUR own POTUS?

They offered the job to him three times. Why? We must assume the Ukrainian leader thought Vindman had more allegiance to Ukraine than he did to the United States. That seems to me to be a reasonable assumption.

 

[Rightguide]

The part where you said that you read all 3500 pages, retard.

Where did I say I read 3500 pages of testimony?

 

[bestone4ever]

Where did I say I read 3500 pages of testimony?

Oh, so you were lying about a single word being used once. Unless you're just going off hearsay.

 

[icanhelp1]

No it's not. Bribery and extortion are not legal. They are not outlined presidential powers. It is not legal to invite foreign interference into an election. It is not okay to ask a foreign leader to investigate your political opponent.

That you think it is only proves that you are not thinking straight.

Surely you would not be okay if Obama told a foreign country's leader that aid and meetings were contingent upon launching an investigation into Romney? Most especially done through a back channel by someone that isn't even an employee of the US government and whom the FBI director can't confirm has security clearance. I seriously can't even imagine you would be just fine with that and consider those actions as "presidential purview".

Bribery and Extortion are shithouse lawyer type talking points and used as well by Nancy Pelosi and her democratic cronies. I have a very acute understanding of article II powers and what is in the purview of presidential power when ensuring taxpayers money is not being influenced by corruption. Spending DOD money on the wall is legal by definition of the statute and authorization granted legally to him by congress. The term bribery as it relates to impeachment is ambiguous at best since no Quid Pro Quo existed per statement by president Zelensky himself. Aid was released and no investigation ensued on the Bidens, so now we move on to attempted bribery. Let me assure you, in the senate trial phase, hunter will be subpoenaed to testify.

A presidential candidate is not above or immune from being investigated for alleged corruption. Biden's pressure on the Ukraine to fire a prosecutor investigating corruption within Barisma, a company his son was employed by, is suspect, and contrary to popular belief, has not been thoroughly investigated. 2016 Obama admin interference, steele dossier, is election interference.

 

[Rightguide]

Oh, so you were lying about a single word being used once. Unless you're just going off hearsay.

Only because you are a mentally injured individual I will take the time to explain why you're full of shit and can't read for comprehension. I didn't say i read it. I stated it as a fact because Congressman John Radcliffe just stacked all 3500 pages of publicly released testimony in front of the cameras in the Hearing room and said he personally "word searched" all 3500 pages and found only a single reference where the word "bribery" was used and it was used in regard to the actions of Joe Biden. So fuck off.

 

[bestone4ever]

Only because you are a mentally injured individual I will take the time to explain why you're full of shit and can't read for comprehension. I didn't say i read it. I stated it as a fact because Congressman John Radcliffe just stacked all 3500 pages of publicly released testimony in front of the cameras in the Hearing room and said he personally "word searched" all 3500 pages and found only a single reference where the word "bribery" was used and it was used in regard to the actions of Joe Biden. So fuck off.

So, hearsay.

 

[Dribble]

The part where you said that you read all 3500 pages, retard.

I remember him saying that. He is on my ignore, but some piss ant quoted him forcing me to read his stupidity

 

[Dribble]

The problem w older brains...they cant even remember if they took a shit yesterday

 

[jomar]

Was there something I said in that post that isn't true?

Nope. But said out of context to try and imply a thing like in the hearing.

 

[Rightguide]

Bribery and Extortion are shithouse lawyer type talking points and used as well by Nancy Pelosi and her democratic cronies. I have a very acute understanding of article II powers and what is in the purview of presidential power when ensuring taxpayers money is not being influenced by corruption. Spending DOD money on the wall is legal by definition of the statute and authorization granted legally to him by congress. The term bribery as it relates to impeachment is ambiguous at best since no Quid Pro Quo existed per statement by president Zelensky himself. Aid was released and no investigation ensued on the Bidens, so now we move on to attempted bribery. Let me assure you, in the senate trial phase, hunter will be subpoenaed to testify.

A presidential candidate is not above or immune from being investigated for alleged corruption. Biden's pressure on the Ukraine to fire a prosecutor investigating corruption within Barisma, a company his son was employed by, is suspect, and contrary to popular belief, has not been thoroughly investigated. 2016 Obama admin interference, steele dossier, is election interference.

Adrina relies on the mentally challenged remarks of Nancy Pelosi who ignorantly used the word "bribery" because their original meme of "quid pro quo" wasn't polling well and people didn't think it was impeachable. I used the word "ignorantly" because the dufus Speaker has no knowledge of what Democrats will have to prove in order to support the new charge.

 

[bestone4ever]

I remember him saying that. He is on my ignore, but some piss ant quoted him forcing me to read his stupidity

That dude lies like the rug on his bald head.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Adrina relies on the mentally challenged remarks of Nancy Pelosi who ignorantly used the word "bribery" because their original meme of "quid pro quo" wasn't polling well and people didn't think it was impeachable. I used the word "ignorantly" because the dufus Speaker has no knowledge of what Democrats will have to prove in order to support the new charge.

"bribery" and "quid pro quo" are synonymous in this instance, because Trump stood to personally profit from the "favor" he was asking.

No amount of your spin or BotanyBoomer's selective dictionary interpretation can change this underlying fact.

 

[Rightguide]

Nope. But said out of context to try and imply a thing like in the hearing.

It doesn't matter what Schiff says, there is no supporting testimony the President committed "bribery." The only time the word was used by witnesses in their testimony was one time in reference to a description of what Joe Biden did in Ukraine.

 

[Rightguide]

"bribery" and "quid pro quo" are synonymous in this instance, because Trump stood to personally profit from the "favor" he was asking.

No amount of your spin or BotanyBoomer's selective dictionary interpretation can change this underlying fact.

That's not true. Bribery under the federal statute requires proof of "corrupt intent," a quid pro quo (something for something) can exist without corrupt intent. Trump had no personal gain whatsoever.