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Setting the Brexit thing aside, the Conservative offering for leaders make Corbyn seem quite reasonable: they are as scary as fuck. Roll on the election and a hung parliament.
 
stickygirl said:
Setting the Brexit thing aside, the Conservative offering for leaders make Corbyn seem quite reasonable: they are as scary as fuck. Roll on the election and a hung parliament.
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Yes all the Tory party hopefuls plan to ride their unicorns into Europe and cast spells on the EU commission which will make them accept everything they have been saying No to for the last three years.

According to Boris' dad, he is going to accomplish something in one month as Prime minister that he didn't manage in three years as Foreign Secretary, the total division of Europe.
 
DeYaKen said:
Yes all the Tory party hopefuls plan to ride their unicorns into Europe and cast spells on the EU commission which will make them accept everything they have been saying No to for the last three years.

According to Boris' dad, he is going to accomplish something in one month as Prime minister that he didn't manage in three years as Foreign Secretary, the total division of Europe.
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It feels like someone saying "which fingernail would you like pulled out first?"
ETA
From the Independent
"Sixty-three per cent of members said they would be prepared to accept Scottish independence to get Brexit, while 59 per cent said the same about a united Ireland. Just 29 and 28 per cent were opposed, respectively.

“Significant damage” to the UK economy was also no deterrent, with 61 per cent in favour and 29 per cent opposed. Some 54 per cent said the Tory party’s complete destruction would still be a price worth paying for Brexit."

Sounds like most would be happy to pay for a ticket on MH370
 
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stickygirl said:
It feels like someone saying "which fingernail would you like pulled out first?"
ETA
From the Independent
"Sixty-three per cent of members said they would be prepared to accept Scottish independence to get Brexit, while 59 per cent said the same about a united Ireland. Just 29 and 28 per cent were opposed, respectively.

“Significant damage” to the UK economy was also no deterrent, with 61 per cent in favour and 29 per cent opposed. Some 54 per cent said the Tory party’s complete destruction would still be a price worth paying for Brexit."

Sounds like most would be happy to pay for a ticket on MH370
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You have to remember that the average age of the people selecting our new prime minister is around 76. A fair chunk of that 150,000 people is already in the early stages of dementia. But don't let that worry you, any price is worth paying if it gets us out of the undemocratic EU especially as they won't be around to pick up the pieces.
 
DeYaKen said:
You have to remember that the average age of the people selecting our new prime minister is around 76. A fair chunk of that 150,000 people is already in the early stages of dementia. But don't let that worry you,
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It does - makes it far worse than our USA colleague's GOP and collegiate system
DeYaKen said:
any price is worth paying if it gets us out of the undemocratic EU especially as they won't be around to pick up the pieces.
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Oh yea - that undemocratic EU, that have changed 5% of our laws and account for 44% of our exports.... that thieving bunch of weirdos that moved in next door and took our jobs :cool:
 
President Pigeon pooped on something again.

Fuckery, for some bullshit (or, nefarious) purpose.
Trump combines these things, often.

BBC speaks up about the binning of a UK Ambassador-
(Don't feel bad, Trump bins people all of the time ?)

This is how Trump "fires" people

The British government just got a taste of Mr Trump's personnel
management skills. Despite making a name for himself on reality
television as the man who dramatically fires people, that's not his style -
and it hasn't been for much of his professional career.

Mr Trump doesn't fire people. He simply makes life so uncomfortable
for them that they eventually leave of their own accord.

If Mr Trump wanted Sir Kim out, he could have ordered him designated
a "persona non grata" under Article 9 of the Vienna Convention on
Diplomatic Relations. The UK would have been legally obligated
to remove him quickly from his post.

He didn't do that.

Instead, the president lobbed off a series of derisive tweets, disinviting
the ambassador from White House events and - whether by direction
or implication - cutting off staff interaction with the man.

"While we haven't seen this kind of process play out
on the international stage, it's a recurring theme of his
presidency."

"Sir Kim's decline and fall was simply more abrupt."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48941095
 
I am too worn out to cry.

After watching Trump drag America down into the sewer, I am watching
Boris Johnson preparing to do the same to the UK, on the same level.

Martin Rowson
@MartinRowson

It's St "Boris"'s Day, traditional the day that if the sun rises,
it will then rain shit every day for the next 40 years.
So let's lighten the mood and YOU choose the "Boris"
you really want! Is it a) Bollocks "Boris" b) T-shirt
"Boris" c) Kipper "Boris" or d) KGB Balloon "Boris"

(pic of Martin Rowson's caricature of Boris, a simple
but devastating black and white drawing. Somehow,
it reminds me of icebergs made of fat, that clog
the sewers. Sadly, Trump reminds me of the same
thing.)

12:37 AM - 23 Jul 2019
 
So what does it take to depose a doddering, old, half senile, windbag over there? Her, not him.

Monarchs are butterflies, not leaders of nations these days.
 
Cases where a monarch or representative did intervene against the wishes of the government tend to leave the monarch bruised. However, none quite translate to just how unusual the current political situation is, says Murkens, given it could set up a direct clash over who represents the people—the government or Parliament—and which one the Queen ultimately sees as more legitimate.

It would be a truly spectacular, and unprecedented, constitutional crisis—one that would go to the heart of the future of the monarchy. But what are the chances of it actually a happening?

"We do know that [Johnson] does play a little fast and loose with convention, but I wouldn't expect him to tear up the rulebook completely," says Hazell.

https://fortune.com/2019/09/01/brexit-queen-boris-johnson/
 
At a public event, Boris Johnson wears the face of someone
that is doing something that is wrong. All of the people that
Putin owns, wear that expression on their face.

How wonderful for Putin, to find two peas in a pod!
Boris is Trump's reflection in England's mirror- a
twin image. Boris's selfishness is not the same as
Trump's American selfishness, but it serves the
same purpose,

How convenient, that Trump's Mike Pence came
to visit, just before Boris was due to appear on the
public stage. Boris's performance was sourced
directly from the Trump playbook- Violate the
Expectations of Your Victims. Exploit every
opportunity to promote Yourself and Your
Agenda. (No matter how inappropriate.)
Drive a tank over everyone and anything
in Your way. No mercy!

Boris is a coward, but he is a greedy coward.
His behaviour betrays the fact that he knows
he is doing something that is wrong. But, he
completes his rotten mission, against what
remains of his conscience.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-be-dead-in-ditch-than-agree-brexit-extension

#PleaseLeaveMyTown

(That is what most Americans say to Trump, after he exploits
and ravages their miniature city or tiny town, to stage a Hate Rally.)

Boris Johnson’s speech and subsequent media question-and-answer
session at a police training college began late, appeared to be largely
unscripted, and resulted in a police officer standing behind him falling
ill after standing in the sun for more than an hour.

Labour MPs were quick to criticise the prime minister
for his decision to deliver his speech flanked by police
officers.

Yvette Cooper MP, chair of the home affairs select committee,
said: “For Boris Johnson to make so many police stop their training
and work to be part of his political stunt is an abuse of power.
Police officers and trainees are overstretched and need to be able
to get on with their job, not have to waste time listening to
Boris Johnson’s political press conference.”

Stephen Doughty MP said the speech appeared a
“blatant attempt to politicise our brilliant police”
ahead of an election campaign, adding:
“They are not political props.”

As the officer immediately behind Johnson appeared
to feel faint towards the end of his speech, Boris turned to
see what was happening and appeared ready to draw to a
close, but then continued speaking for several minutes.
 
bodysong said:
At a public event, Boris Johnson wears the face of someone
that is doing something that is wrong. All of the people that
Putin owns, wear that expression on their face.



Stephen Doughty MP said the speech appeared a
“blatant attempt to politicise our brilliant police”
ahead of an election campaign, adding:
“They are not political props.”

As the officer immediately behind Johnson appeared
to feel faint towards the end of his speech, Boris turned to
see what was happening and appeared ready to draw to a
close, but then continued speaking for several minutes.
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Those recruits Had been standing there waiting for him to breeze in which is why the guy appeared to faint. He was supposed to be speaking about the proposed increase in police numbers but instead launched into a political speech about his problems in Westminster.

The problem he has now is that Parliament doesn't trust him which is why they won't approve an election until after the EU summit at which he says he is going to get a deal. They are also planning legal action to stop him breaking the law.

Why don't they trust him?
Sacked from the Daily Telegraph for making up "News Stories"
Sacked as editor of "The Spectator" for lying to cover up the fact that he was having an affair with a junior member of staff.
Sacked from a government position for misleading Parliament.
That's without mentioning his behaviour during the Brexit Campaign.
Given that record, it's hard to understand why people don't trust him.
 
Bill to stop no-deal Brexit on 31 October becomes law after Queen grants royal assent

(Guardian prints that "This is from PA Media.")

A new law designed to stop the government forcing through
a no-deal has reached the statute book. The granting of royal
assent for the legislation was announced by the Lord Speaker
in the House of Lords, ahead of the suspension or prorogation
of parliament.

The new act requires a delay to Brexit beyond 31 October unless
a divorce deal is approved or parliament agrees to leaving the EU
without one by 19 October.

Boris Johnson has previously branded it the “surrender bill”,
claiming it took away control of the UK’s negotiations with
the EU by allowing parliament to block no deal.

Downing Street has said the government will obey the law,
but repeated that the PM would not be seeking a further extension
to the article 50 withdrawal process.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...live?page=with:block-5d7670dc8f083106f455844b

"Be careful," Ian Blackford, leader of the opposition Scottish
National Party, told Johnson. "You occupy the highest office
in the land. And what you're demonstrating to the people of
the United Kingdom is that the law doesn't matter."

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/7592...as-boris-johnson-reels-from-string-of-defeats
 
RubenR said:
The British can create as many bills to stop no-deal Brexit as they want, but if they don't get their act together anytime soon, they will be out, anyhow. It only takes one EU country to oppose further delay.

Since there is no reason to expect Britain to come up with anything constructive within a century, it might be better for the EU to get rid of them asap. Rip off the bandaid, and start focusing on how to deal with the aftermath.
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And the French have already said that would oppose an extension.
 
Latest Brexit Loss Leaves Boris Johnson Denying
He Lied to the Queen


On Wednesday, a Scottish appeals court ruled that Johnson’s
decision to suspend Parliament for five weeks in the run-up
to the October 31 deadline for Brexit was unlawful, because
“it was motivated by the improper purpose of stymying Parliament.”
This sparked accusations that Johnson lied to the queen in advising
her that it was legal to prorogue Parliament at the time — which may
not be illegal per se, but certainly isn’t going to boost Johnson’s popularity.
When asked on Thursday if he’d misled the monarch, Johnson said,
“Absolutely not,” adding, “The High Court in England plainly agrees
with us but the Supreme Court will have to decide.”

Downing Street has heavily insinuated that Wednesday’s ruling
was a politically motivated decision by activist judges, claiming
that the prime minister’s enemies took their case to Edinburgh
knowing they were more likely to obtain such a ruling there.
Witness this Trumpesque non-statement from Kwasi Kwarteng,
the junior business minister: “Many people are saying —
I’m not saying this — that the judges are biased, that the
judges are getting involved in politics. I’m just saying what
people are saying.”

Needless to say, these remarks questioning the integrity of
the Scottish judiciary did not go over well in Scotland.
The Scottish National Party pounced with an ad saying,
“The Tories at Westminster are effectively saying:
Scottish democracy must be ignored. Scots Law must be ignored.”
The SNP will surely make more hay out of this the next time
they agitate for independence, and if Scotland finally ends up
leaving the U.K. as a result of Brexit, this week’s events will
likely be remembered as one step in that direction.

Union leaders are calling for him to be thrown in jail; one warned
the PM against traveling to Scotland, where he could be subjected
to a citizen’s arrest. That probably won’t happen, but if the Supreme
Court agrees with the Scots that Johnson misled the queen in advising
her that it was legal to prorogue Parliament at this time, calls for his
resignation would mount swiftly. Dominic Grieve, the former attorney
general whom Johnson kicked out of the Conservative Party last week,
said Johnson would find his position “untenable” in that case, as
“every member that believes in our constitution would simply say,
it’s over.”

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/boris-johnson-denies-lying-queen.html

Boris Johnson has said it is “absolutely not true” that he misled the
Queen over his reasons for suspending parliament, after a Scottish
court ruled his suspension unlawful because he did it to stop MPs
scrutinising Brexit.

The prime minister previously insisted he sought the suspension
so that the government could set out a new legislative programme
in a Queen’s speech on 14 October, but the court said the prorogation
was obtained for the “improper purpose of stymying parliament”.

Asked whether he had lied to the monarch in order to obtain the
prorogation, Johnson replied: “Absolutely not.” He added: “
The high court in England plainly agrees with us but the supreme
court will have to decide. We need a Queen’s speech, we need to
get on and do all sorts of things at a national level.”

However, the London court, on 6 September, had made no ruling
on the truthfulness of his reason for the prorogation, simply saying
it was a lawful move because suspension of parliament was within
the prime minister’s powers regardless of motive.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ly-not-true-i-misled-queen-says-boris-johnson
 
Boris Johnson ‘chickens’ out of own press conference amid noisy protests, leaving empty podium next to Luxembourg’s PM

Less than courageous, BJ wimps out of the Presser as protesters drive him in to hiding!

Boris Johnson failed to turn up to his own press conference as noisy anti-Brexit protesters vented their anger, in extraordinary scenes in Luxembourg on Monday.

Xavier Bettel, the country’s leader, went ahead to speak to the press without the British prime minister – standing next to an empty podium as he fiercely criticised him.

Attacking the UK’s failure to present fresh proposals to break the Brexit impasse, Mr Bettel said – to applause from onlookers – that the “clock is ticking” and told Mr Johnson: “Stop speaking and act.”

Mr Johnson had been in Luxembourg to meet the country’s leader and Jean-Claude Juncker, the European Commission president, for the first time face-to-face.

But after enduring loud boos and taunts on the way in from assembled protesters, Mr Johnson walked away without doing his promised appearance in front of the media. A UK government source said he would instead do a clip in private with broadcasters away from the assembled public and press.
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:)
 
I have no interest or influence on the clusterfuck in Westminster. I cast my vote and have been ignored since along with most other people under the age of 30.

I get my news from Jonathan Pie
:cool:
 
Trump learned some of his media fuckery, and
much else from Rupert Murdoch-

But, still, it is a surprise to see propaganda spread

Climate strikes: hoax photo accusing Australian protesters
of leaving rubbish behind goes viral

20 Sep 2019

The image was not taken after a climate strike and was
not even taken in Australia

A hoax photo that claims to show rubbish left behind by
Australian climate strike protesters is circulating on Facebook,
despite being revealed as fake months ago.

However, the photo is not from a climate strike, not from Friday
and was not taken in Australia. It is from a marijuana-based festival
called 420 held in London in April 2019.


IMPORTANT EDIT: a lot of people are misreading this post.
This was the aftermath of Hyde Park 420 - and was *cleaned up*
by Extinction Rebellion crew. THTC is nothing but supportive of
XR. Please read *all* the post copy before flying off the handle,
people.

This is #HydePark after #420. Ashamed is not the word.
With #extinctionrebellion not yards away, so many of you
couldn’t be bothered to clean up after yourselves. Ironic for
a movement that holds a plant in such high regard.
#cannabiscommunity you can do better -
you need to do better.

EDIT: Posted this in the comments, but all this ended up
being cleaned up by a crew from Extinction Rebellion,
which included the absolute eco-warrior legend,
Swampy!
3.2K

1.1K

7.4K

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...otesters-of-leaving-rubbish-behind-goes-viral
 
Putin, ripping everything tatters and shreds

7 October 2019

The Guardian view on Boris Johnson: let no such man be trusted

On his visit to Watford, the Conservative leader insisted again that
Britain will leave the EU on 31 October. This will not be possible,
under the Benn act, unless there is a deal in Brussels in under two
weeks. That looks unlikely. Mr Johnson’s proposals for a deal fall
well short of EU positions on multiple counts. President Macron
wants everything sorted by Friday. Without an agreement, the Benn
act comes into force, compelling Mr Johnson to do what he has always
said he will not do. We shall see all too soon if the Scottish court was
right to trust Mr Johnson.

The signs are not good. On Tuesday, the government plans to prorogue
parliament until a Queen’s speech next Monday. It is true that the 2017-19
session is now the longest since the Long Parliament. But a Queen’s speech
normally either follows an election or portends a new legislative programme.

This one is the opposite. It coincides with Mr Johnson’s plan to call an
election and will thus contain nothing that will reach the statute book
before the poll. In effect, as Professor Robert Hazell of the UCL
Constitution Unit has argued powerfully, the speech is thus not a
legislative programme but an election manifesto.
“The Queen will have been used,” the professor says,
“to make a Conservative party political broadcast.”

All this is entirely of a piece. Mr Johnson took office in July as head
of a Tory faction. He has bulldozed precedent, propriety, parliament,
his opponents and the country’s allies with Trumpian disdain. Most
have fought back. They must go on doing so. Mr Johnson must be
stopped from gaming with the Commons, the courts and the country.
And, until a no-deal Brexit is off the table, he must be denied the
general election he seeks.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...w-on-boris-johnson-let-no-such-man-be-trusted
 
Boris Johnson had a fantasy

Only things did not quite turn out as Johnson expected.

Before his plan could even come to a vote, MPs found another option
by pressing an amendment that would force the six-time-loser PM to
go back to the E.U. and beg for still more time. Johnson declared that
he could not, would not do it. And then Parliament passed the amendment
by a wide margin. At the end of the day, Johnson finally gave in to the
little thing called law that declared he would so send a note to the E.U.
But to show what he thought of it all, he declared that he would not sign
the note. So there. If all this sounds both confusing and ridiculous, it’s
worse than that—watch this BBC explainer to get a sense of how bad
it really was.


There may never have been a day that better demonstrated how the
entire Western world is being run by three-year-olds.

-Mark Sumner

October 20, 2019

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/20/1893748/-Abbreviated-Pundit-Round-up-El-Doral-done


John McDonnell said (Boris) Johnson behaved “a bit like a spoilt brat”
after the prime minister sent an unsigned letter to the EU asking
for a delay, and then a second arguing against it.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/20/brexit-boris-johnson-eu-deal-delay-live-news

FFS, the face of someone that needs a good smack.
 
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