Question about the underage rule

[HHHawkeye]

I understand that there's a rule that bans any story that involves minors having sex or engaging in sexual acts, and I have no desire to make such a story. However, I have some concerns in writing my story where I'm worried it may skirt up against the rules in some other way, and I thought I'd check now so that if I have to come up with some other bit of lore/"worldbuilding"/etc to get around this, I can do it now before I get too invested. The issue isn't minors having sex, but more the indirect implication of minors having had sexual thoughts in the past.

The first issue is that I have a character, an 18 year old boy, who for hard-to-explain reasons is in a sexual relationship with a significantly older woman he's fantasized about for years. Am I allowed to say that part, that he's fantasized about her for years? Even though that sentence implies sexual fantasies the character had when he was 16? Am I allowed to have him at least off-handedly mention this in the past tense?

In the second instance, and this is the one I'm more concerned about, I have a country populated by people whose women are so submissive that they've gotten away with building a country where all women are slaves. All women born on the island nation are sent overseas as newborns to be raised in freedom, and are given the option to return to the land of their birth and submit to a life of slavery if they so wish, which is a choice that 90% of them decide to make. Sounds fine, but the issue comes up when I start thinking about when exactly, in the act of growing up, that genetic submissiveness kicks in with these women and they actually become aware of what they're going to choose to do with the rest of their lives. As long as they don't sexually act upon it in any way until the age of 18, am I allowed to imply that they develop a sense that they'd enjoy being slaves sometime between puberty and then? If not, can I get away with just not bringing the issue up, or do I have to explicitly state that this submissive nature does not manifest in these women until after they turn 18?

 

[Vix_Giovanni]

Both should pass inspection.

Neither of your stories involves sex acts involving characters under eighteen. That's the bright-line rule and it's pretty straight forward.

There's no "skirting" in a character fantasizing about sexual attraction before the age of eighteen, or being born into a sex-slave colony. On the other hand, if your character details the specific, erotic details of his sixteen year old self's fantasies, or you detail some prepubescent training rituals, those would be clear violations of the bright-line rule.

In my stories, many of my characters recall sex before the eighteen "line in the sand". But those recollections are brief, solely to move the story forward and neither explicit nor erotic. Those are your benchmarks; keep your stories safe from the bright-line rule, and you'll have no issues.

 

[ElectricBlue]

You can make a simple, flat statement, "He had been fantasising about her for years."

But don't describe the fantasy.

am I allowed to imply that they develop a sense that they'd enjoy being slaves sometime between puberty and then?

No. Implying something will require suggestion. Suggestion closes in on description very quickly. Better to gloss over it very lightly and proceed directly to nineteen. Literotica has far too many eighteen-year old virgins who are really sluts and trollops who can't wait - make her complicated, make her nineteen .

 

[TarnishedPenny]

First one should be OK provided that you don’t go into details of the fantasies.

The second one is more complicated, as the others have noted. It is ultimately up to the site owners, of course. I think you could get away with saying that the girls were aware of the implications of the choice facing them.

 

[HHHawkeye]

The second one is more complicated, as the others have noted. It is ultimately up to the site owners, of course. I think you could get away with saying that the girls were aware of the implications of the choice facing them.

To be clear, I don't intend to actually show any underage characters who are aware that they'd enjoy slavery. The most it would come up is possibly someone explaining how the process usually works in contrast to "late bloomers" (women who think they're among the 10% who are like normal people but then later have the urges hit them all at once in their mid 20s), or the read-aloud-by-another-character resume/educational history of a 21-year-old woman who learned a huge number of skills by that age in order to experience the thrill of being sold for a high price (not learning any of the remotely sexual skills until she turned 18 of course).

 

[jaF0]

In the second instance, and this is the one I'm more concerned about, I have a country populated by people whose women are so submissive that they've gotten away with building a country where all women are slaves. All women born on the island nation are sent overseas as newborns to be raised in freedom, and are given the option to return to the land of their birth and submit to a life of slavery if they so wish,

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As long as they don't sexually act upon it in any way until the age of 18, am I allowed to imply that they develop a sense that they'd enjoy being slaves sometime between puberty and then? If not, can I get away with just not bringing the issue up, or do I have to explicitly state that this submissive nature does not manifest in these women until after they turn 18?

This sorta kinda starts out that way:

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-fucking-of-amy-pt-01

 

[Hypoxia]

This again. No explicit sexual descriptions are permitted with anyone appearing to be a human under age 18 Earth years. No millennia-old pre-adolescent immortals or aliens.

'Sex' may be reported ("She was knocked up at 15") but not described ("His studly staff penetrated her pre-pubescent portal"). 'Sex' includes thoughts as well as deeds; nobody under 18 may think or be thought of sexually. No over-the-line fantasies. Again, report ("She dreamt of him for years") but don't describe ("His middle-aged mind dreamily explored her hairless pussy").

No, people ain't like that. But LIT's owner Laurel's rules have done well for a couple of decades. Stories here are about and for adults. Other stories can go elsewhere.

 

[Masterful_Husband]

The key is to not sexualize things. I had a chapter of one of my series that required a character to relate the story of her underage rape to the protagonist. I don't dwell on the details at all. I don't sexualize the content. And I especially don't make the rapist out to be a hero/sympathetic. There's a single line in the story that I'm a little surprised didn't get rejected but, when you view the story in it's entirety, I think it works really well (it's actually probably my best written scene so I'm glad it didn't get bounced).

It's number 12 of the Carly storyline if you're curious (last half of the story where Jay and Kyrsten are talking).

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

This brings up an issue that I am trying to work out in my world building. In my universe, one of the indications of enslavement is being unclothed unless necessary for work or weather conditions. What about children seeing naked adults? Not witnessing anything sexual, for example seeing a slave doing grocery shopping.

In the world building, penal slaves are stripped partly for identification, party for additional punishment via public humiliation. Nothing overtly sexual and there is never any sex in front of minors. I have been able to avoid the issue by having the stores take place at an adult only resort, but I am wonding if it would trigger or not.

 

[SynSlave]

That sounds like it could be trickier than you might think when writing (making sure each sexual encounter is clearly closed from children - as well as probably keeping parts of your story separate so it can't be questioned). But I personally don't see how that would be against site rules if you can pull it off, since a nudist colony of families would fly, no? Pretty sure I've read a few of those but it's been a while on that subject.

 

[RelentlessOnanism]

I had trouble with the underage rule in my most recent story. I had a scene where a mother and son are talking about their mutual attraction. The son admits he's been lusting after her for years. She says she would've slept with him when he was underage. I got it sent back for that.

To be honest, I dislike the underage rule. I think it's a bit daft really, when you bear in mind what Literotica will allow, but I accept it's part and parcel of this website, so we all have to live with it.

I do wish it was more consistently enforced though.

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

That sounds like it could be trickier than you might think when writing (making sure each sexual encounter is clearly closed from children - as well as probably keeping parts of your story separate so it can't be questioned). But I personally don't see how that would be against site rules if you can pull it off, since a nudist colony of families would fly, no? Pretty sure I've read a few of those but it's been a while on that subject.

That is my thinking. I will prob write around the issue till I work something out.