Disaster in the Making

[BotanyBoy]

The above two warmongering cunts whine that partisan politics is more important to their political opposites than the lives of their dear Kurd friends, who they care soooo very, very much about.

Care so very very much about on a sudden and purely partisan basis.

Then try to pose as principled liberals as they shit talk others for how pathetic they are for not being as partisan, authoritarian and warmongering as they are.

Super progressive, so much liberalism, very principled.....orange man bad!!

 

[zipman]

The above two warmongering cunts whine that partisan politics is more important to their political opposites than the lives of their dear Kurd friends, who they care soooo very, very much about.

Yet when one of their own progressive blowhards spews the same sentiment they attack others for, they remain chickenshit silent. Naturally.

What a gaggle of phony, two-faced bitches.

Squeal more and louder, pigs!

Poor emotional Eyer. Throwing another tantrum.

Yes, I care about the Kurds because they just fought our enemy for us. How is that a difficult concept to understand?

I already laid out why this is a disastrous decision from a military and geopolitical perspective. The fact that you can't refute that and instead want to pitch a fit like a child isn't my problem.

The fact that you are still defending Trump despite how stupid a decision he made is just partisan stupidity on your part.

The best that you can do is to say that Trump is too weak of a President to convince Turkey no to attack the Kurds, which is something the rest of us already know.

 

[suurfer]

Turkey is aiming airstrikes at Kurdish encampments in Syria.
That's akin to the US Air Force dropping bombs on Hispanics in Mexico clustered at the border.

It is NOT a "national defense issue".

It's quite simply "ethnic cleansing", orchestrated by Edrogan and greenlighted by President Donald J. Trump.

Yes indeed, I don't have a clear understanding of what's going on.

It's just that I listened to this, and both of them bring such eloquent arguments...
I can't help but wonder if the Syrian clusterfuck is too big and has too many facets, to assign blame on just one party on Turkey's maneuver.

turkish adviser clear understanding with us on syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRZKpv3IzDw

 

[Aglaopheme]

There’s nothing partisan about this genocide with the exception of the GB squawkers bloviating how partisan it is.

 

[bigsly]

Who are the majority of these "Kurds" Turkey intends to neutralize to try to create both a buffer zone between Syria and Turkey and a land of refuge settlement for hundreds of thousands of displaced Syrians in their own country?

Why are the majority of GB socialists/progressives/Democrats and a good number of statists/conservatives/Republicans - warmongers all - so emotionally hyperbolic about the dire future now facing these innocent "Kurds"? After all, the overwhelming majority of these "Kurds" aren't individual liberty-seeking protesters/fighters like the truly brave souls in Hong Kong currently rebelling against heavier and heavier socialist/statist/communist oppression.

Exactly why are GB socialists/statists so attracted to these poor "Kurds"? Perhaps, whether they practically realize it or simply instinctively sense it, the commonality is basically about the political ideology both groups are devoted to...

Kurdistan Worker's Party (PPK)
People's Defense Forces (HPG)
Free Women's Units (YJA_STAR)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers**7_Party

Why do so many countries consider these "Kurds" terrorists? And why do GB socialists/statists, and communist China and Russia, seemingly hold so much empathy for them to the point of supporting them and arming them?

And what is the politically ideological difference between these "Kurds" and the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF)/People's Protection Units (YPG), which states its mission as fighting to create a secular, democratic and decentralized Syria? Why are they armed to the teeth by American taxpayer $$?

So, in the end, the practical question is which "Kurds" are the emotionally hyperbolic - they're all going to be slaughtered, we have to spill American blood to protect them - GB socialists/statists whining so much about if there's factually no such thing as simply "Kurds" like they're trying to disingenuously - as usual SOP - sell?

 

[suurfer]

I don't care about your guys' Trump fights, nor am I condoning kurdish genocide, Aglao.

I'm just trying to understand, to integrate somehow the following in the current "Turkey's anti-kurd invasion" narrative. Because right now, they don't fit:


Over the past months, Turkey has been raising repeated alarms that it feels overwhelmed by the refugee burden placed on her (4 million Syrians, 300.000 kurds, and other Muslims) and unsupported by EU.

Unless it was a pr campaign to legitimize the current attack.

 

[bigsly]

The fact that you are still defending Trump despite how stupid a decision he made is just partisan stupidity on your part.

The best that you can do is to say that Trump is too weak of a President to convince Turkey no to attack the Kurds, which is something the rest of us already know.

I defend crooked, crony capitalist Trump just as much as I defend a loser piece of socialist/progressive shit like you.

I support bringing every single US military boot home, and never basing even one again on any foreign soil except when Congress declares war.

Trump, as Commander-in-chief of all US armed forces, obviously does not share my view, proven by the obscene # of American military still stationed upon foreign soil all over the world. You, as a pathetic, disingenuous, partisan socialist/progressive/Democrat hack, obviously do not share my view either, proven by your repugnant warmongering call to spill American blood in defense of Kurdish socialists you're too chickenshit to actually walk your chickenshit talk and defend yourself.

I also support never selling/pimping another single weapon of war to any other nation - no matter ally or enemy. Statist Trump certainly doesn't share that view, as he continues to rack up record number of foreign military sales, just like Socialist Obama did before him. And you obviously agree with them because you're on this Board pontificating that, since you're obviously too chickenshit to actually go over there and help your socialist comrades yourself, America must provide them ALL the means to protect themselves or they'll be slaughtered.

So tell me again, jackoff supreme, who - you or I - obviously supports and defends the warmonger socialist/statist quo, the Obamas and the Trumps, more?

 

[bigsly]

There’s nothing partisan about this genocide with the exception of the GB squawkers bloviating how partisan it is.

Oh, look!

Emotionally hyperbolic, warmongering, chickenshit, hysterical socialist/progressive/Democrat partisan hack doesn't know what the word "genocide" means, only that it fits with her intentional propagandized repeating of what she reads/hears from her fellow emotionally hyperbolic, warmongering, chickenshit, hysterical socialist/progressive/Democrat partisan hacks.

Squeal like a obedient puppet, pig!

 

[BotanyBoy]

There’s nothing partisan about this genocide with the exception of the GB squawkers bloviating how partisan it is.

No, but the (D)'s sudden hard on for endless war for no reason in the last couple days absolutely is.


What genocide? You mean like with Trumps concentration camps on the border

Or real genocide like what the good comrades in China are doing but for some reason lefties still seem to have no problem with?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I don't care about your guys' Trump fights, nor am I condoning kurdish genocide, Aglao.

I'm just trying to understand, to integrate somehow the following in the current "Turkey's anti-kurd invasion" narrative. Because right now, they don't fit:


Over the past months, Turkey has been raising repeated alarms that it feels overwhelmed by the refugee burden placed on her (4 million Syrians, 300.000 kurds, and other Muslims) and unsupported by EU.

Unless it was a pr campaign to legitimize the current attack.

Regardless of whether you accept the premise of "refugee burden", would you at least agree that Turkish air strikes on population centers are in no way, shape or form "acceptable solution"?

 

[jaF0]

It's just that I listened to this,


//www.youtube.

Never do that. Block the Tube and never go there.

 

[suurfer]

Never do that. Block the Tube and never go there.

It was a piece from CNN.

 

[jaF0]

"The Kurdish-led authority in northern Syria said a prison struck by Turkish shelling holds "the most dangerous criminals from more than 60 nationalities" and Turkey's attacks on its prisons risked "a catastrophe".

The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) holds thousands of Islamic State fighters and tens of thousands of their relatives in detention."

https://news.yahoo.com/turkish-forces-push-deeper-northeast-075145163.html


So, it's either killing (bad) people in prison cells, or letting bad people escape through damaged barriers. No matter how you look at it, either way is wrong and could be war crimes that should be laid directly at Donny's feet.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It was a piece from CNN.

Also alt-right Trumpian news.

Gotta be like jaF0, only get your information from Salon/Slate/RAW op-eds and treat them like the word of god....call anyone who challenges the word of god Nazi scum.

It's what high intelligence, over educated 'progressives' do.

 

[icanhelp1]

Also alt-right Trumpian news.

Gotta be like jaF0, only get your information from Salon/Slate/RAW op-eds and treat them like the word of god....call anyone who challenges the word of god Nazi scum.

It's what high intelligence, over educated 'progressives' do.

*******************************CHUCKLE*****************************

 

[icanhelp1]

I defend crooked, crony capitalist Trump just as much as I defend a loser piece of socialist/progressive shit like you.

I support bringing every single US military boot home, and never basing even one again on any foreign soil except when Congress declares war.

Trump, as Commander-in-chief of all US armed forces, obviously does not share my view, proven by the obscene # of American military still stationed upon foreign soil all over the world. You, as a pathetic, disingenuous, partisan socialist/progressive/Democrat hack, obviously do not share my view either, proven by your repugnant warmongering call to spill American blood in defense of Kurdish socialists you're too chickenshit to actually walk your chickenshit talk and defend yourself.

I also support never selling/pimping another single weapon of war to any other nation - no matter ally or enemy. Statist Trump certainly doesn't share that view, as he continues to rack up record number of foreign military sales, just like Socialist Obama did before him. And you obviously agree with them because you're on this Board pontificating that, since you're obviously too chickenshit to actually go over there and help your socialist comrades yourself, America must provide them ALL the means to protect themselves or they'll be slaughtered.

So tell me again, jackoff supreme, who - you or I - obviously supports and defends the warmonger socialist/statist quo, the Obamas and the Trumps, more?

Having troops in Europe, S.K. and Japan to name a few as well as naval bases sprinkled all over the globe actually help in keeping the peace. Countries pay us to station troops in their countries and they pick up a lot of the cost for keeping them their. Cheaper to keep them overseas than to bring them home. With Russia and China expanding their sphere of influence globally to shrink our global presence would not be a good thing. Other than the M/E our presence maintains global stability and none of our troops are actively engaged in combat operations other than covert ops. You have to remember our armed forces serve voluntarily. We, as a nation, don't have the stomach to initiate a draft. What's going on in Syria and Turkey is a very complex issue. I'm glad I don't have to solve the problem. As long as our troops were not engaged in ground combat op's I wonder if pulling back will have unintended negative consequences. Just my humble opinion.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Also alt-right Trumpian news.
Gotta be like jaF0, only get your information from Salon/Slate/RAW op-eds and treat them like the word of god....call anyone who challenges the word of god Nazi scum.
It's what high intelligence, over educated 'progressives' do.

Botany Boy never fails to utilize any form of human tragedy as a soapbox to demonize his political opponents and/or promote his toxic glibertarian shitsludge personal ideology.

 

[Emerson40]

YEAH! Obama listened to his generals We had peace in Iraq won and Obama pulled our troops out. ISIS is the brainchild of Obama's listening to his generals. Revisionist history.

Trump had to clean Obama's mess.

Uh...that’s not how ISIS came about. Not even close.


Revisionist history indeed.

 

[bigsly]

Having troops in Europe, S.K. and Japan to name a few as well as naval bases sprinkled all over the globe actually help in keeping the peace. Countries pay us to station troops in their countries and they pick up a lot of the cost for keeping them their. Cheaper to keep them overseas than to bring them home. With Russia and China expanding their sphere of influence globally to shrink our global presence would not be a good thing. Other than the M/E our presence maintains global stability and none of our troops are actively engaged in combat operations other than covert ops. You have to remember our armed forces serve voluntarily. We, as a nation, don't have the stomach to initiate a draft. What's going on in Syria and Turkey is a very complex issue. I'm glad I don't have to solve the problem. As long as our troops were not engaged in ground combat op's I wonder if pulling back will have unintended negative consequences. Just my humble opinion.

As I've already pointed out: the only thing as repugnant to natural individual liberty as a socialist/progressive/Democrat, is a statist/conservative/Republican.

Thanks for further verifying that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Botany Boy never fails to utilize any form of human tragedy as a soapbox to demonize his political opponents and/or promote his toxic glibertarian shitsludge personal ideology.

Rob the authoritarian socialist never fails to express his distain for liberalism and thus the USA.

 

[icanhelp1]

As I've already pointed out: the only thing as repugnant to natural individual liberty as a socialist/progressive/Democrat, is a statist/conservative/Republican.

Thanks for further verifying that.

Well; you covered just about the whole political spectrum. So, what are you?
Statist and conservative are on opposite ends of the scale!

 

[HisArpy]

Well; you covered just about the whole political spectrum. So, what are you?
Statist and conservative are on opposite ends of the scale!

He's someone who sits there on the fence until all the hard work is done, then tells you how you coulda done it better if you'd only listened to him after the fact.

 

[icanhelp1]

Uh...that’s not how ISIS came about. Not even close.


Revisionist history indeed.

ISIS is an offshoot of AL QAEDA Iraq, lead by Baghdadi and formed in 2010. Obama famous words the Islamic state as "JV Team" Obama never took them serious and as a result of a military pullout the took over northern Iraq and eastern Syria in the year of our Lord 2014.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Thread title could now be changed to "A Disaster."

 

[BotanyBoy]

ISIS is an offshoot of AL QAEDA Iraq, lead by Baghdadi and formed in 2010. Obama famous words the Islamic state as "JV Team" Obama never took them serious and as a result of a military pullout the took over northern Iraq and eastern Syria in the year of our Lord 2014.

You're talking to "Democrats can never do any wrong under any circumstances" Emerson40.

All Bush's fault, clearly.