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What is happening now is merely a continuation of a process that started then. Trump was the first president to be "impeached" before he was elected -- a neat trick if there ever was one. In a manner of speaking, the group or groups behind the Russia probe wanted to pre-impeach him. And they never gave up, not even for a minute, even after the Mueller collusion investigation came up empty after two years and multiple millions spent.

Throughout that investigation, leaks were a daily event, almost all aimed at assuring us there was demonstrable evidence of collusion. These leaks were almost always dead wrong or inaccurate, although they did, on occasion, garner Pulitzers for their recipients. They were also illegal, but punishment, though promised, never happened.

Nevertheless, in the end, they were not enough to bring down the president, so whistleblowers were brought in who, in reality, were leakers with a new name, augmented by the meretricious cover of having filled out some government forms. Moreover, these leakers/whistleblowers were intelligence agents, though this too was nothing new since the original leakers were often intelligence agents as well. There is no deeper Deep State than the CIA. It's a veritable Mariana Trench. Like some prehistoric sea monster, its denizens have been lurking just below the surface to drag the impostor Trump down into the depths since, or before (as noted), his election, throwing up whatever accusation necessary to justify their vile activity and mollify what might be left of their consciences.

Never mind that they themselves were the originators and instigators of the current proximate cause -- foreign meddling (in their cases Italy, Australia, the UK, and Ukraine that we know of so far) -- it is Trump who must fall for this sin. They must protect their shallow bureaucratic lives at all costs, even if it means the dissolution of this democratic republic, this nation that we are supposed to love, even if it means civil war. Whatever happens, they will blame Donald Trump at the top of their Beltway lungs when they themselves are to blame.

This is how the nonstop impeachment efforts are viewed and have been viewed from the beginning by we "deplorables" out here in flyover country. I count myself as one of them because I -- although my two Ivy League degrees, thirteen books, and seven feature films don't quite compute with Obama's bigoted "guns and religion" description -- prefer to identify with people I feel are honest and decent. It was also my observation when covering the 2016 election that people who attended the Trump rallies were considerably smarter than those behind the media rope line, and not just in terms of common sense.
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Roger L. Simon, PJMedia



https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/the-pre-impeachment-of-donald-trump-never-stopped/
 
I've been watching the polls concerning the public's call for impeaching Trump and there has been a noticeable uptick in said polls. The question is, are the polls reflecting what is actually happening out in the hustings?

More and more posters of a conservative bent here on Lit. are also calling for (demanding) that the impeachment process proceed. Not because they want to see Trump convicted in the Senate, but because they're convinced that if the dems move forward it will be the nail in their political coffin in 2020. Obviously the hard core dems believe just the opposite.

Who is right on whose coffin is going to get nailed is up in the air. We're speaking of beliefs and political maneuvering here. But I can't help but correlate what I see happening here on the board to the broader polls that the press is running. And in that regard I'm suggesting that the polls are NOT reflecting what many democrats seem to think they are.
 
Ok, let me understand:

Democrats are justifying 3 billion dollars to boost the Ukraine gas industry, that Biden’s and Kerry’s families benefit from, while telling us that we must give up gas and go all Green Deal.

The swamp! They‘re playing us and the media is their lap dog!:cool:
 
Bring on Trump’s taxes! His lawsuit was tossed and he’s been ordered to turn over eight years of returns to Manhattan DA. 🙊
 
Yeah, he'll get it before Gosuck and Crapanaugh who will blow his whistle for him.
 
Aglaopheme said:
Bring on Trump’s taxes! His lawsuit was tossed and he’s been ordered to turn over eight years of returns to Manhattan DA. 🙊
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Every other presidential candidate has voluntarily disclosed their taxes.

Trump is the only one to not only refuse to do it, but is suing to keep them hidden.

He's afraid of his corruption being outed.
 
zipman said:
Every other presidential candidate has voluntarily disclosed their taxes.

Trump is the only one to not only refuse to do it, but is suing to keep them hidden.

He's afraid of his corruption being outed.
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he chose not to volunter
 
zipman said:
Every other presidential candidate has voluntarily disclosed their taxes.

Trump is the only one to not only refuse to do it, but is suing to keep them hidden.

He's afraid of his corruption being outed.
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Where’s que when we need an expert on precedence?
 
bellisarius said:
I've been watching the polls concerning the public's call for impeaching Trump and there has been a noticeable uptick in said polls. The question is, are the polls reflecting what is actually happening out in the hustings?

More and more posters of a conservative bent here on Lit. are also calling for (demanding) that the impeachment process proceed. Not because they want to see Trump convicted in the Senate, but because they're convinced that if the dems move forward it will be the nail in their political coffin in 2020. Obviously the hard core dems believe just the opposite.

Who is right on whose coffin is going to get nailed is up in the air. We're speaking of beliefs and political maneuvering here. But I can't help but correlate what I see happening here on the board to the broader polls that the press is running. And in that regard I'm suggesting that the polls are NOT reflecting what many democrats seem to think they are.
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I've said it before and I will stand by it: there's literally no reason to believe that impeachment will be a political disaster for the Democrats. What's the precedent for believing that, exactly? Grant succeeding Johnson? Carter winning during an era when it was otherwise impossible for a Democrat to win? Bush getting (sort of) elected even though Gore had peace and prosperity on his side?


And this board is hardly a scientific cross section of the broader public, and thank God for that.
 
Aglaopheme said:
Anything but discuss the actual facts as shown by some of the previous posts made this morning.
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All of your impeachment rants have consisted of conjecture supported by left wing op-eds that have no basis in fact or consist of hopeful innuendo. You're being swayed by left leaning media, the likes of MSNBC, CNN, HUFF, VOX, WAPO NYT, all of which are steering the public towards impeachment and have zero objectivity. Try studying legal briefs and read the opinions of constitutional legal scholars, also, try waiting till all the facts are out. Do you have any idea what a second whistleblower brings to the case, nobody knows but MSNBC has everyone running around with their hair on fire.
 
Aglaopheme said:
Anything but discuss the actual facts as shown by some of the previous posts made this morning.
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why are you ignoring this....alcindor?

Glenn Beck drops Ukrainian recording so damning to Hillary no WONDER media isn’t sharing.

why did you NOT correct your alcindor post?

dont fucking lecture us
 
Aglaopheme said:
Bring on Trump’s taxes! His lawsuit was tossed and he’s been ordered to turn over eight years of returns to Manhattan DA. 🙊
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fake news, alcindor

real news is HE WON

Jay Sekulow (@JaySekulow) tweeted at 0:00 PM on Mon, Oct 07, 2019:
Radio: BREAKING: President Trump wins in NY Tax Return Fight https:/*******MIKsBxRRT8
 
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