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[Conager]

Four pinocchios

Not quite Obama-lie-of-the-year-level prevarication, but when the predicate for an impeachment gets so excoriated, it gives lots of fuel to Trump's characterization of any investigation of his administration as a "witch hunt."

This entire narrative was constructed in Adam Schiff's office about an event that occurred literally the day that Mueller completely deflated their impeachment hopes.

It seems like it would be hard to top the lies and obfuscations that propped up the Steele dossier and kept the Mueller report alive for a couple of years but this one is not off to a good start.

 

[Conager]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1510795

That is "re-sign," not "resign."

Finally! I have surpassed Rory in post count in this thread so that Rory can embarrass himself by declaring victory.

I mean, more embarrassed than he should be by implying an actual impeachment proceeding is already underway, when no such thing has occured.

He should be able to save face here though, eventually, because it is unlikely that the Dems are going to back down at this point because they couldn't bear that loss of face any more than Rory can.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Four pinocchios

Not quite Obama-lie-of-the-year-level prevarication, but when the predicate for an impeachment gets so excoriated, it gives lots of fuel to Trump's characterization of any investigation of his administration as a "witch hunt."

This entire narrative was constructed in Adam Schiff's office about an event that occurred literally the day that Mueller completely deflated their impeachment hopes.

It seems like it would be hard to top the lies and obfuscations that propped up the Steele dossier and kept the Mueller report alive for a couple of years but this one is not off to a good start.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/Ho2mVZ5dvsW7S/giphy.gif

 

[juttjaw]

That is "re-sign," not "resign."

Finally! I have surpassed Rory in post count in this thread so that Rory can embarrass himself by declaring victory.

Is that what quantifies victory? Post count??
That says more about you that we've already known.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Lol.

Pure fantasy.

And bullshit.

There is no precedent; there is no law regarding "proceeding" vs. "inquiry", and Trump has no legal standing to defy Congressional subpoenas. It will be another Article of Impeachment.

Also way to shift goalposts. You still havent cited anything about there having to be a vote to start the impeachment process, yet that's the starting point for your expanding delusion.

What a blowhard

Sure because Trump is going to meekly accept a judiciary voting on partisan lines to ignore precedent and deny him those rights previously afforded his predecessors.

Great idea to exactly play into his narrative about this being a partisan "witch hunt."

He, naturally will accede to their non-binding letters of indignation insisting he wave executive privilege.

If they finally nut up and actually have a vote to begin an actual impeachment procedure so that they have the power to compel witnesses via subpoenas, good luck getting SCOTUS to enforce that subpoena power if you ignore precedent (which would be legal but politically stupid) and deny POTUS the rights afforded every other type of defendant and past Impeachment proceeding defendants.

 

[Conager]

Lol.

Pure fantasy.

And bullshit.

There is no precedent; there is no law regarding "proceeding" vs. "inquiry", and Trump has no legal standing to defy Congressional subpoenas. It will be another Article of Impeachment.

Also way to shift goalposts. You still havent cited anything about there having to be a vote to start the impeachment process, yet that's the starting point for your expanding delusion.

What a blowhard

Go for it!

Continue to send letters rather than actual subpoenas and call being laughed at as "obstruction," continue to not have a floor vote, continue to call it an "impeachment," continue to denied Republicans a voice and Trump a defense, and see where that gets you.

Also, if you could, please continue to make Adam Schiff. . .


https://iotwreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Adam-Schiff-Crazy-Looking-e1528648552633.jpg

.. .the face of the fake impeachment effort? It will provide such a crumbling foundation for any actual impeachment effort, if and when you get around to an actual impeachment effort- whatever you decide to call it.

Thanks, in advance!

 

[Conager]

Is that what quantifies victory? Post count??
That says more about you that we've already known.

Not *my* metric, and it was an effort to "lose" on my part. Reading comprehension it really isn't your thing is it?

You are correct though that those that think post counts constitute victory says everything about them and nothing about the person's post count that they are counting.

 

[Conager]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/Ho2mVZ5dvsW7S/giphy.gif

I know, right?

Schiff's lies were bad enough but him doubling down and insisting he was answering a different questions did indeed "strain credulity" as the Trump-hating Washington Post had to point out.

 

[coati]

Well, I'm wrong sometimes. And then like some around here and probably Romney I'm man enough to admit it. It looks like I may have been wrong about that.

Romney hasn't seen the transcript of the Volker interview:

"At no time was I aware of or took part in an effort to urge Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Biden. As you will see from the extensive text messages I am providing, which convey a sense of real-time dialogue with several different actors, Vice President Biden was never a topic of discussion," Volker stated. "Moreover, as I was aware of public accusations about the Vice President, several times I cautioned the Ukrainians to distinguish between highlighting their own efforts to fight corruption domestically, including investigating Ukrainian individuals (something we support as a matter of U.S. policy), and doing anything that could be seen as impacting U.S. elections (which is neither in the United States' nor Ukraine's own interests). To the best of my knowledge, no such actions by Ukraine were ever taken, at least in part, I believe because of the advice I gave them." - Ambassador Kurt Volker

Oops.

Looks like we're back to the fact that there was no quid pro quo again, and quelle surprise, Schiff was delivering yet another load of Schiff by using out of context quotes to imply something entirely different than what was being discussed.

In the recent article I referenced, Romney, Sasse, and Hurd, all Republicans, were not addressing your porn board nit-picking about whether there is an explicitly stated quid pro quo, they were saying it was wrong for the President to put his personal political interests or his allegedly domestic investigation objectives above the interests of the United States when dealing with foreign leaders.

In the article I cited, Sasse asked if we want the commies conducting our domestic corruption investigations. Do you think Democratic candidates should ask the Chinese to "find Trump's missing IRS returns"?

Trump is offering the Chinese a politically motivated trading card that they can then use to get something out of critical negotiations between the two countries, even if they just make up some shit. Trump violated his oath of office, which falls into the category of high crimes and misdemeanors.

At some point it may be up to the Senate to decide if a President can give other countries this kind of leverage in negotiations where American interests are at stake.

 

[Conager]

In the recent article I referenced, Romney, Sasse, and Hurd, all Republicans, were not addressing your porn board nit-picking about whether there is an explicitly stated quid pro quo, they were saying it was wrong for the President to put his personal political interests or his allegedly domestic investigation objectives above the interests of the United States when dealing with foreign leaders.

In the article I cited, Sasse asked if we want the commies conducting our domestic corruption investigations. Do you think Democratic candidates should ask the Chinese to "find Trump's missing IRS returns"?

Trump is offering the Chinese a politically motivated trading card that they can then use to get something out of critical negotiations between the two countries, even if they just make up some shit. Trump violated his oath of office, which falls into the category of high crimes and misdemeanors.

At some point it may be up to the Senate to decide if a President can give other countries this kind of leverage in negotiations where American interests are at stake.

Where I happen to type my cogent analysis has no bearing whatsoever on the analysis. You need to either find some other place to feel superior than or quit complaining about people posting on a p*** board. Looks kind of stupid how often you do that.

It isn't nit picking. It makes a difference between it being politically not smart, bad optics and arguably a moral hazard and a legal one without quid pro quo there's nothing at all even remotely illegal about that.

You people on the get-Trump-at-costs team need to decide whether quid pro quo batters or not. Every time you think you have evidence of quid pro quo you trumpet it like it matters and every time you find out there was none you say it doesn't matter. Decide. I don't care which position you take, but you can't defend both positions.

 

[von_Bismarck]

When have you ever typed a "cogent analysis??"

 

[Conager]

When have you ever typed a "cogent analysis??"

Always projection with you. How many times have you piped up to tell trysail he is "¡wrong!" without any analysis whatsoever, cogent or otherwise?

If he had not found my analysis cogent he wouldn't have resorted to attacking the venue that I typed it in and would instead have worked on "refudiating" it as you like to say.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Always projection with me.

Can't disagree with that!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Can't disagree with that!

Nobody really can disagree with that.

#HeTriesSoooHard

 

[jaF0]

... random pointless finger farts ...

You seem .... upset.

 

[Conager]

Oh, look. A rare one-two RDS-Sockpuppet combination punch!

RDS is feeling chapped about looking like a moron claiming that the advent of semiautomatic rifles in the 1960's (off by about a century) and first utilized by Whitman (who actually used a bolt action rifle) is prima facie evidence that scary black guns cause mass shootings.

 

[Conager]

You seem .... upset.

You seem. . .intellectually feckless. Pointing and laughing at the absurdity of the impeachment (lack of) effort is not "upset."*

Story ideas section is thataway----->

*cue the counters of posts for their gotcha moment in the sun.

 

[schism666]

Oh, look. A rare one-two RDS-Sockpuppet combination punch!

RDS is feeling chapped about looking like a moron claiming that the advent of semiautomatic rifles in the 1960's (off by about a century) and first utilized by Whitman (who actually used a bolt action rifle) is prima facie evidence that scary black guns cause mass shootings.

q did rob say "advent" or more like "widely used"

 

[icanhelp1]

You seem. . .intellectually feckless. Pointing and laughing at the absurdity of the impeachment (lack of) effort is not "upset."*

Story ideas section is thataway----->

*cue the counters of posts for their gotcha moment in the sun.

Is It Halloween already, awful lot of lefty looney tunes out tonight!

 

[Aglaopheme]

House Oversight Committee subpoenas White House in impeachment inquiry

 

[icanhelp1]

House Oversight Committee subpoenas White House in impeachment inquiry

Cummings can subpoena the WH till he’s blue in the face, it will end up in court with the rest of them. No vote no cooperation. Nancy can change precedent so can the WH. Trump will have already served his second term and retired.

 

[cowslinger64]

You seem. . .intellectually feckless. Pointing and laughing at the absurdity of the impeachment (lack of) effort is not "upset."*

Story ideas section is thataway----->

*cue the counters of posts for their gotcha moment in the sun.

Taxi driver/handjobber makes fun of others.


Hilarious.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Somewhat related, the IG of the Treasury is now investigating why, despite the clear wording of the law, Mnuchin has not turned over the con artist's tax returns to Congress.

Acting Inspector General Rich Delmar said he will investigate who was consulted on the issue and how the department came to reject Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal’s demands for the records, a decision the Massachusetts Democrat is now fighting into court.

Delmar said it’s unclear yet whether his inquiry will also consider a whistleblower's allegations that someone tried to improperly influence the IRS's audits of Trump.​

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/04/treasury-inspector-general-trump-tax-028830

 

[jaF0]

Taxi driver/handjobber makes fun of others.


Hilarious.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8b/cb/37/8bcb37a85d24fd2190fd1899d098791a.jpg

Fits just about right and proper.

 

[icanhelp1]

Somewhat related, the IG of the Treasury is now investigating why, despite the clear wording of the law, Mnuchin has not turned over the con artist's tax returns to Congress.

Acting Inspector General Rich Delmar said he will investigate who was consulted on the issue and how the department came to reject Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal’s demands for the records, a decision the Massachusetts Democrat is now fighting into court.

Delmar said it’s unclear yet whether his inquiry will also consider a whistleblower's allegations that someone tried to improperly influence the IRS's audits of Trump.​

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/04/treasury-inspector-general-trump-tax-028830

Because it’s not for legislative purposes.