Megan Rapinoe, Colin Kaepernick, and how the Democrats abandoned patriotism!

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: Ignored the environment? I think you're confusing him with his predecessor there.[/I]"

Barack Obama said: "...this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."

So our environment is healed? And global warming is NO MORE? Barack really did it? That's just awesome! Do the envionmental activists know this?

"Ignored the border?"

Barack actually wanted illegals pouring into states like California so that there would be millions more Democratic Party voters receiving federal government entitlements in exchange for their going to the polls (where no voter photo-ID would be required) and electing Democrats.

"And I think it's fair to say he will be remembered for health care reform..."

Barack's health care reform bill resulted in 63-House & 6-Senate incumbent Democrats losing their seats in 2010. I'm sure that you will say this was actually a good thing for his party, but I really don't see how. I mean, it was kind of a humiliation, wasn't it?

"Ok with me, it's not my job to do your proofreading for you."

Proofread THIS: Barack was (and is) one huge egomaniacal N-A-R-C-I-S-S-I-S-T who thinks that the sun rises & sets because of himself!

"Because the Dems had almost three times as many seats to defend. They still won 58% of the votes..."

Yes, and according to YOU, losing two seats in the U.S. Senate made the 2018 midterms a GREAT NIGHT for the Democratic Party! And when President Trump soon replaces Ruth Bader-Ginsburg on our U.S. Supreme Court with another one of his own hand-picked conservative justices, you'll suddenly claim that THAT'S a great victory for Democrats, as well! And I'll just smile (like I'm doing right now!)

"Oh, I said what I really meant to say."

CNN & MSNBC are two paranoia and hate-filled news networks! It's why nobody watches either one of them anymore. Everybody's watching FOX!

 

[YDB95]

YDB95 writes: Ignored the environment? I think you're confusing him with his predecessor there.[/I]"

Barack Obama said: "...this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."

So our environment is healed? And global warming is NO MORE? Barack really did it? That's just awesome! Do the envionmental activists know this?

Safe to say they know what he was getting at, and what he tried to do, and the reason why more wasn't done.

"Ignored the border?"

Barack actually wanted illegals pouring into states like California so that there would be millions more Democratic Party voters receiving federal government entitlements in exchange for their going to the polls (where no voter photo-ID would be required) and electing Democrats.

Does your tinfoil hat ever get uncomfortably hot in the North Carolina sun?

"And I think it's fair to say he will be remembered for health care reform..."

Barack's health care reform bill resulted in 63-House & 6-Senate incumbent Democrats losing their seats in 2010. I'm sure that you will say this was actually a good thing for his party, but I really don't see how. I mean, it was kind of a humiliation, wasn't it?

A good thing for the party? No. But - and honestly, this might surprise you - short-term gains or losses in Congress were not the point here, Dump.

"Ok with me, it's not my job to do your proofreading for you."

Proofread THIS: Barack was (and is) one huge egomaniacal N-A-R-C-I-S-S-I-S-T who thinks that the sun rises & sets because of himself!

Projection 101 again! (And I'm guessing you still can't spot your mistake in what you said before. No point in my continuing to push the issue, so here's what you clearly missed:

"Just because a man happens to be black does NOT make him one enormous NARCISSIST, YDB95 - and for anybody to make that claim sounds racist!"

What you're saying there is that being black does not make Obama a narcissist. And you're right. But I'm 99.99% sure what you meant to say was that just because he was black didn't mean he COULDN'T be a narcissist. (Which is also correct, though irrelevant.)

"Because the Dems had almost three times as many seats to defend. They still won 58% of the votes..."

Yes, and according to YOU, losing two seats in the U.S. Senate made the 2018 midterms a GREAT NIGHT for the Democratic Party! And when President Trump soon replaces Ruth Bader-Ginsburg on our U.S. Supreme Court with another one of his own hand-picked conservative justices, you'll suddenly claim that THAT'S a great victory for Democrats, as well! And I'll just smile (like I'm doing right now!)

I wouldn't count on RBG going anywhere anytime soon, Dump. It's not like she has bone spurs or anything.

 

[JKendallDane]

(Dump cherry-picked from YDB's post: ) "Ignored the border?"

(Dump then pontificates with: ) Barack actually wanted illegals pouring into states like California so that there would be millions more Democratic Party voters receiving federal government entitlements in exchange for their going to the polls (where no voter photo-ID would be required) and electing Democrats.

(YDB righteously questions: ) Does your tinfoil hat ever get uncomfortably hot in the North Carolina sun?

Just capturing this little exchange for posterity and because the snark factor is so perfectly apropos.

(a gold star and extra cookie for you at milk break time for that one, YDB. )

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[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "Safe to say they know what he was getting at, and what he tried to do, and the reason why more wasn't done."

The reason why President Obama didn't heal our environment is that he was an incompetent, hypocritical, narcissistic president who never had any serious intention of doing any such thing!

"A good thing for the party? No. But - and honestly, this might surprise you - short-term gains or losses in Congress were not the point here, Dump."

I'm surprised that you haven't yet applauded Hillary's 2016 defeat as somehow benefitting the Democratic Party. While MOST people viewed it as a shocking loss for ALL Democrats, including President Obama, I'm sure you will explain to us how it was actually all a part of the progressive strategy to further manage America's decline, ultimately replacing the stars-&-stripes with that gay rainbow flag that modern liberals love so much.

"I wouldn't count on RBG going anywhere anytime soon, Dump. It's not like she has bone spurs or anything."

Ruth will go when she goes. And Donald Trump will STILL be the president when that happens, and the Republicans will STILL control enough votes in the the U.S. Senate to overcome Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford's painful, alcohol-hazed memories from the 1980's recalled in that little-girl's-voice of hers that ONLY Democrat senators (and Alyssa Milano) will say they believe!

 

[YDB95]

"A good thing for the party? No. But - and honestly, this might surprise you - short-term gains or losses in Congress were not the point here, Dump."

I'm surprised that you haven't yet applauded Hillary's 2016 defeat as somehow benefitting the Democratic Party. While MOST people viewed it as a shocking loss for ALL Democrats, including President Obama, I'm sure you will explain to us how it was actually all a part of the progressive strategy to further manage America's decline, ultimately replacing the stars-&-stripes with that gay rainbow flag that modern liberals love so much.

Part of the strategy? No. Better for progressives in the long term? It's certainly possible. It's not like educated white suburbanites can pretend they don't hear the Republican dogwhistles anymore.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "Part of the strategy? No. Better for progressives in the long term? It's certainly possible. It's not like educated white suburbanites can pretend they don't hear the Republican dogwhistles anymore."

The Democratic Party has permanently lost the American heartland, YDB95. They're NEVER going to win it back!

But perhaps you're right about this being a part of the overall Democratic Party strategy. Running Joe Biden in 2020 is OBVIOUSLY designed to guarantee a Trump re-election win in 2020. And it's pretty clear that Barack Obama's 2009 health care debacle was designed from the very start to ultimately destroy his party's power in the U.S. Senate! And by keeping the Republicans in control of the U.S. Senate following the 2018 midterms, it becomes increasingly clear that the Democrats WANT Trump to appoint another U.S. Supreme Court justice (and maybe even TWO!)

But WHY would the Democratic Party want this? Could it be that they're now hoping that the American people might get to see Christine Blasey-Ford re-emerge again in ANOTHER confirmation fight over President Trump's NEXT high-court pick? Are the progressives perhaps hoping to turn HER into our nation's newest folk hero (after Jussie Smollett failed miserably in capturing that role?) Perhaps, after the Supreme Court has seven or eight conservative justices on board, the Dems are hoping for a voter backlash at the polls? Yes... yes... I believe that could be it! THAT'S their grand design, isn't it?

 

[YDB95]

YDB95 writes: "Part of the strategy? No. Better for progressives in the long term? It's certainly possible. It's not like educated white suburbanites can pretend they don't hear the Republican dogwhistles anymore."

The Democratic Party has permanently lost the American heartland, YDB95. They're NEVER going to win it back!

You know enough about political history to know better than to make a prediction like that. Demographic changes happen, and the heartland will change just like the rest of the country will.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "You know enough about political history to know better than to make a prediction like that. Demographic changes happen, and the heartland will change just like the rest of the country will."

Yes, things could certainly change, YDB95 - if the Democratic Party STOPS its slide into socialism, atheism, Islam, open borders, late-term abortion, & transgendered politics, people living in the American heartland could definitely continue voting for Democrats.

The last time Minnesota voted Republican in a presidential election was way back in 1972, but THAT state is definitely looking like fertile ground for another one of Donald Trump's historic "flips" in 2020. CNN (which is NO FRIEND to President Trump) ran this story just yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ps120sLCs - (CNN looks at Minnesota turning RED - runs 3:41)

If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, she'd have no doubt continued flooding Minnesota will Muslim immigrants from Somalia & other Islamic sh*tholes, only Mrs. Clinton LOST that election, and our current president doesn't believe in shipping in new voters from abroad. Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is the new face of the Democratic Party in that state, and THAT ain't good!

So long as people like Colin Kaepernick, Megan Rapinoe, Jussie Smollett, Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford are seen as the "poster-children" for the progressive-left, the American heartland will continue abandoning the Democratic Party!

 

[JKendallDane]

YDB95 writes: "You know enough about political history to know better than to make a prediction like that. Demographic changes happen, and the heartland will change just like the rest of the country will."

Yes, things could certainly change, YDB95...

...the American heartland will continue abandoning the Democratic Party!

While short of a full-blown recession, "It's the economy stupid!" may not resonate in every state next year, but with suburban and rural wage growth at an almost-standstill, the majority of the middle class still seeing no discernible change in their paychecks from the tax cuts or the tired "trickle-down" promise, manufacturing sputtering along anemically, farmers filing bankruptcy and committing suicide at record levels, steel and auto plants doing shutdowns, and the coal industry still on life support at best...I'd be willing to bet there is one thing we'll see from the Rust Belt and the Heartland next year: a constantly increasing and unpleasant cacophony from the voters of both those sections of the country.

Once that concert begins, the backup choir is only going to grow bigger and louder.

Donnie-T may be able to ride that "Best economy in the history of the world" horse at Mar-a-Lardo, his rich-boys golf resorts, and at fundraisers in the Hamptons, but it's not going to start any stampedes to the voting booths for him down on the farm.

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[Dumpington]

JKendallDane writes: "While short of a full-blown recession, "It's the economy stupid!" may not resonate in every state next year..."

President Obama presided over stagnant economic growth for a full eight-years, all the while adding a whopping $10-trillion to our nation's debt, and this after calling President Bush "unpatriotic" for increasing our debt by $4-trillion! Without a doubt, Obama was a hypocritical dumbass who didn't understand even basic economics.

Obama also argued that Tump was NEVER going to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States! "What's he going to do, wave a magic wand?" Again, Barack sounded like a complete dumbass-buffoon! His way of helping the minority community in this country was to increase food stamps usage to record highs, under the assumption that poor black people who are permanently dependent on receiving federal government hand-outs will NEVER leave the Democratic Party!

President Trump. on the other hand, has lowered the black unemployment rate to RECORD low-levels, only it turns out that MORE black people want good jobs than want to receive government freebies! THIS is why the modern Democratic Party is trying so very hard to paint Trump as a racist! If they ever LOSE the black vote, they are FINISHED as a major American party!

 

[YDB95]

YDB95 writes: "You know enough about political history to know better than to make a prediction like that. Demographic changes happen, and the heartland will change just like the rest of the country will."

Yes, things could certainly change, YDB95 - if the Democratic Party STOPS its slide into socialism, atheism, Islam, open borders, late-term abortion, & transgendered politics, people living in the American heartland could definitely continue voting for Democrats.

Well, it is true that the Dems aren't going to attract the votes of people who see what you see anytime soon. But I consider that a good thing.

If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, she'd have no doubt continued flooding Minnesota will Muslim immigrants from Somalia & other Islamic sh*tholes, only Mrs. Clinton LOST that election, and our current president doesn't believe in shipping in new voters from abroad. Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is the new face of the Democratic Party in that state, and THAT ain't good!

The president doesn't have any power whatsoever over migration to a given state, Dump.

So long as people like Colin Kaepernick, Megan Rapinoe, Jussie Smollett, Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford are seen as the "poster-children" for the progressive-left, the American heartland will continue abandoning the Democratic Party!

So you don't think there are women or minorities or people who care about either in the heartland? That's a mighty big brush you're painting with there.

 

[JKendallDane]

JKendallDane writes: "While short of a full-blown recession, "It's the economy stupid!" may not resonate in every state next year..."

President Obama presided over stagnant economic growth for a full eight-years, all the while adding a whopping $10-trillion to our nation's debt, and this after calling President Bush "unpatriotic" for increasing our debt by $4-trillion! Without a doubt, Obama was a hypocritical dumbass who didn't understand even basic economics.

Tell ya' what, Dump...I'll acknowledge your whataboutisms for the sake of debate.

Would that be the same "stagnant economic growth" that the Stable Genius has yet to equal after a full 32 months in office? Would that also be the same "whopping $10 trillion added to the debt" that was at least 35% attributable to putting Bush & Cheney's wars back on the open books and another 35% or so attributable to emergency spending to drag the country back from the cliff it and the world was dangling over?

And let's settle the "economic dumbass" slam you love to spit out at Obama with a simple test. Him, Joe Biden, 45, and you all take the same standard Econ101 mid-term exam (maybe from some really reputable place like, oh, say Wharton or Harvard?) and let's see where everybody scores. I'm betting you and your orange buddy will be screaming "Rigged!" and "Unfair!" and walking out in protest somewhere about question #5 when it reads: "Define the term 'marginal propensity to consume' and discuss how it relates to the national economy."

You call 202-456-1414 and work out the details and timing with Donnie-T, then let me know and I'll dig up the last number I had for Joe and get him to set it all up with Barack. Game on, dude?

Obama also argued that Tump was NEVER going to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States! "What's he going to do, wave a magic wand?" Again, Barack sounded like a complete dumbass-buffoon! His way of helping the minority community in this country was to increase food stamps usage to record highs, under the assumption that poor black people who are permanently dependent on receiving federal government hand-outs will NEVER leave the Democratic Party!

Are you speaking of the "record high usage of food stamps" that was the DIRECT result of the shitty economy Obama inherited and had to deal with for the majority of his first term. You know...all those NEW food stamp dependents that were overwhelmingly white, middle class, and just doing whatever they could to survive after having their plants close, their office & retail livelihoods downsized out of existence or shipped offshore, and most all with their 401k's already decimated by Bush Jr collapsing the stock market? THOSE blood-sucking, permanently dependent, leeches on society?

President Trump. on the other hand, has lowered the black unemployment rate to RECORD low-levels, only it turns out that MORE black people want good jobs than want to receive government freebies! THIS is why the modern Democratic Party is trying so very hard to paint Trump as a racist! If they ever LOSE the black vote, they are FINISHED as a major American party!

Um, Dump, sit back and cope with the facts. Black unemployment under Obama was at its highest at 16.8% in March 2010 and reached the lowest point of 7.8% in January of 2017 when he handed off the keys to 1600 to Donnie-T. That's nine full points .

Now let's review the record of the "economic genius" you keep touting. He took over a still consistently falling 7.8% rate, continued to ride the same falling wave trend of the previous seven years, and got lucky with seeing another "YUGE, never-ever-equaled-before-in-all-of-recorded-history" two points and +/- change decrease. (it's been bouncing around between 5.5% and 7.0% all year)

Like virtually every other number...whether it be employment, wage growth, polls, inauguration attendees, budget deficits, national debt increases, et al...you can beat the drum as loud as you want, but your boy never seems to beat Obama at much of anything except money spent on golf trips, White House staff and Cabinet turnover, and number of people going to jail.

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[Ezeerider]

Much worth repeating

While short of a full-blown recession, "It's the economy stupid!" may not resonate in every state next year, but with suburban and rural wage growth at an almost-standstill, the majority of the middle class still seeing no discernible change in their paychecks from the tax cuts or the tired "trickle-down" promise, manufacturing sputtering along anemically, farmers filing bankruptcy and committing suicide at record levels, steel and auto plants doing shutdowns, and the coal industry still on life support at best...I'd be willing to bet there is one thing we'll see from the Rust Belt and the Heartland next year: a constantly increasing and unpleasant cacophony from the voters of both those sections of the country.

Once that concert begins, the backup choir is only going to grow bigger and louder.

Donnie-T may be able to ride that "Best economy in the history of the world" horse at Mar-a-Lardo, his rich-boys golf resorts, and at fundraisers in the Hamptons, but it's not going to start any stampedes to the voting booths for him down on the farm.

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Just in case you missed it above, I find this response worth repeating here.

I'd just add to those who keep parroting the "Best economy .... blah, blah, blah, trash, that you seem to forget that there is not - and never has been - one single economy in this country. The economies we know here are various and varied and multi-level. It's our strength and our weakness.

While the 1%, those who least need it, may be realizing a big win, as JKD pointed out above, the blue collar; the white-collar cubicleers; the retail sector and the marginal and unemployed - and the marginally employed are all sinking in quicksand, with no rescue in sight. Sadly, neither the Ds nor the media do nearly enough to emphasize or even point this out in all the various debates and punditry.

Yes, it is the economy, stupid. So let's stop being stupid about the economy!

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "So you don't think there are women or minorities or people who care about either in the heartland?"

I never said that - actually, I believe that there are a LOT of women & minorities who dearly LOVE this country, just as I ALSO believe there are straight white men enrolled in Antifa who hate America and everything this nation represents! Those women & minorities who despise America are those who have embraced the pro-socialist side of the Democratic Party. And they mostly live on the coasts!

"Would that be the same "stagnant economic growth" that the Stable Genius has yet to equal after a full 32 months in office?"

Anybody who looks at Barack Obama's "food stamps presidency" and compares it with the vibrant economic boom being currently administered by President Trump knows full well that the two leaders have nothing in common. President Obama thought that it was the federal government's job to "legislate prosperity" the way they try to do in nations like Cuba & Venezuela. He was (and still is) an economic imbecile.

"Are you speaking of the "record high usage of food stamps" that was the DIRECT result of the shitty economy Obama inherited and had to deal with for the majority of his first term."

Obama had no idea how to fix a bad economy, and so the dumbass went on a multi-trillion-dollar spending-spree that ultimately increased America's national debt by $10-trillion. And this was after he called President Bush "unpatriotic for increasing it by $4-trillion! By his OWN ADMISSION Barack was over TWICE as unpatriotic as Bush! Or was he simply lying again? He lied a LOT, you know!

 

[JKendallDane]

Just in case you missed it above, I find this response worth repeating here.

Dump is notorious for "missing" things in posts. His sole purpose for even attempting to read most of them is just to search for a phrase or sentence or two he can cherry-pick and attack.

Thanks for the thumbs-up though.

I'd just add to those who keep parroting the "Best economy .... blah, blah, blah, trash, that you seem to forget that there is not - and never has been - one single economy in this country. The economies we know here are various and varied and multi-level. It's our strength and our weakness.

While the 1%, those who least need it, may be realizing a big win, as JKD pointed out above, the blue collar; the white-collar cubicleers; the retail sector and the marginal and unemployed - and the marginally employed are all sinking in quicksand, with no rescue in sight. Sadly, neither the Ds nor the media do nearly enough to emphasize or even point this out in all the various debates and punditry.

Yes, it is the economy, stupid. So let's stop being stupid about the economy!

All excellent points, EZ.

Especially that the current Dem candidates need to put forth their vision of the fixes for an economy that 45 is sweating over daily in spite of his public bloviations and tweets to the contrary.
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[JKendallDane]

"Would that be the same "stagnant economic growth" that the Stable Genius has yet to equal after a full 32 months in office?"

Anybody who looks at Barack Obama's "food stamps presidency" and compares it with the vibrant economic boom being currently administered by President Trump knows full well that the two leaders have nothing in common. President Obama thought that it was the federal government's job to "legislate prosperity" the way they try to do in nations like Cuba & Venezuela. He was (and still is) an economic imbecile.

"vibrant economic boom" ~ Dump...I'm assuming you meant to type "boon there. If not, "boom" may well be the best Freudian slip you've ever made since BOOM is usually the noise a balloon makes when it bursts.

Moving on to the rest of your words...you more than welcome to live in that fantasy world you keep talking about, but denial of facts doesn't change them. The ONE thing you did get correct was "the two leaders have nothing in common."

I'll happily take a calm, cool, collected, able to focus, speak proper English, well educated, mature and empathetic, and not having the majority of the country and world laughing at him as a president that actually KNOWS what the Constitution says; OVER an egotistical, narcissistic, constantly angry, publicly raging, "think with his gut", zero-attention-span, maturity of a Twitter-addicted twelve-year-old girl starting puberty, total lack of a moral or ethical compass, bullying poser that has to depend on auto-correct to even SPELL "Constitution" correctly, any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

"Are you speaking of the "record high usage of food stamps" that was the DIRECT result of the shitty economy Obama inherited and had to deal with for the majority of his first term."

Obama had no idea how to fix a bad economy, and so the dumbass went on a multi-trillion-dollar spending-spree that ultimately increased America's national debt by $10-trillion. And this was after he called President Bush "unpatriotic for increasing it by $4-trillion! By his OWN ADMISSION Barack was over TWICE as unpatriotic as Bush! Or was he simply lying again? He lied a LOT, you know!

And yet he DID fix that bad economy by getting us out of the deepest economic ditch we had been in since 1929, do what had to be done to get the train back on the tracks...and made a few mistakes along the way... but was able to hand off the engineer's cap for a consistently chugging-down the-tracks, economic train in 2017.

45's entire economic policy for that train has revolved around one thing ever since...keep throwing more and more money into the private Pullman cars of the Robber Barons back in the middle of the train and keep telling everybody how that will eventually make the train run faster.


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[Dumpington]

JKendallDane writes: "The ONE thing you did get correct was "the two leaders have nothing in common.""

No, they did NOT... our "food stamps" president - Barack Obama - didn't understand basic economics! The guy was basically an emasculated & effeminate man. Pretty much the ONLY thing he was good for was fundraising with his emasculated & effeminate Hollywood friends. Trump is a REAL leader!

"I'll happily take a calm, cool, collected, able to focus, speak proper English, well educated, mature and empathetic..."

Yes, I already said that. Barack was an emasculated & effeminate man who (as president) added $10-trillion to our debt, believing that it was the federal government's job to legislate jobs-growth! Remember when he invested $500-million taxpayer dollars in Solyndra, a company which then immediately declared bankruptcy?

"And yet he DID fix that bad economy by getting us out of the deepest economic ditch we had been in since 1929..."

And the American voters promptly thanked him for his economic heroism by voting out 63-House & 6-Senate Democrats in the 2010 midterms, and then continued voting out Democratic legislators for the remainder of Obama's time in the White House! The only person who believes that he was a brilliant hero is YOU!

"45's entire economic policy for that train has revolved around one thing ever since..."

America currently has the lowest black & minority unemployment numbers EVER! Obama couldn't make it happen, but Trump COULD! Go figure!

 

[JKendallDane]

JKendallDane writes: "The ONE thing you did get correct was "the two leaders have nothing in common.""

No, they did NOT... our "food stamps" president - Barack Obama - didn't understand basic economics! The guy was basically an emasculated & effeminate man. Pretty much the ONLY thing he was good for was fundraising with his emasculated & effeminate Hollywood friends. Trump is a REAL leader!

You cackle out loud when you type those ridiculous buzzwords, don't ya' Dump?

There are so many ways I could respond to that post and the "REAL leader" finale there, but I know how much my snarkiness bothers you, so I'll just pass up the opportunity to write a doctoral thesis on that entire bit of absurd silliness.

"I'll happily take a calm, cool, collected, able to focus, speak proper English, well educated, mature and empathetic..."

Yes, I already said that. Barack was an emasculated & effeminate man who (as president) added $10-trillion to our debt, believing that it was the federal government's job to legislate jobs-growth! Remember when he invested $500-million taxpayer dollars in Solyndra, a company which then immediately declared bankruptcy?

I'm noting a trend with your use of that one, Dump. Stop holding back and go for the gold because you're only a post or two away from dropping "Bathhouse Barry" anyway.

You don't care about any facts regarding the Solyndra belly-up thing,except to use it as a slam, so I won't bother with it except to give you an

I don't bring up at every turn, 45 sticking the taxpayers of NJ, the federal government, and a boatload of investors (and the mob!) with his BILLION DOLLAR casino bankruptcies, so stuff that nonsense back in your bag of tricks.

"And yet he DID fix that bad economy by getting us out of the deepest economic ditch we had been in since 1929..."

And the American voters promptly thanked him for his economic heroism by voting out 63-House & 6-Senate Democrats in the 2010 midterms, and then continued voting out Democratic legislators for the remainder of Obama's time in the White House! The only person who believes that he was a brilliant hero is YOU!

I'm guessing your own words there lay a perfect foundation for the comparison of the "voters promptly thanking Donnie in 2018" by massively flipping the House, still leaving Mitch without a supermajority, governorships & statehouses swinging back to the Dem side, and a continuing cascade of early GOP "retirements" being announced almost weekly.

I don't think "brilliant hero" is a good way to describe Obama, but compared to 45's record, Barack is far more Mensa (and "hero") material...intellectually, economically, politically, and in the eyes of the majority of people...than 45 ever will be.

"45's entire economic policy for that train has revolved around one thing ever since..."

America currently has the lowest black & minority unemployment numbers EVER! Obama couldn't make it happen, but Trump COULD! Go figure!

Only if you choose to ignore that Obama set the waves in motion and Donnie-T has done little beyond managing to somehow hang on tight to the surfboard for 32 months.

Now...ya' wanna go back to the "Robber Barons in the private Pullman cars" point?


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[BotanyBoy]

Only if you choose to ignore that Obama set the waves in motion

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What waves? Specifically......

LOL it's ok we all know you got nothing.

 

[Dumpington]

JKendall Dane writes: "You cackle out loud when you type those ridiculous buzzwords, don't ya' Dump?"

And WHY should I cackle out loud? Barack Obama really WAS America's "food stamps president," whether I wished it or not! He had to be, in order to keep inner city people in poverty, and dependent upon federal government hand-outs and voting for Democrats! Look at Elijah Cummings & his rat-&-rodent-infested west Baltimore congressional district! It's a Democratic Party stronghold!

"You don't care about any facts regarding the Solyndra belly-up thing, except to use it as a slam..."

It's easy to explain, Jay-Kendall! President Obama truly believed that it was the federal government's responsibility to create businesses & jobs, and so he "invested" $500-million taxpayer-dollars to GREEN ENERGY Solyndra as a way to save our planet and create thousands of new Green Energy jobs, but because Barack was an economic simpleton, that corporation declared bankruptcy instead. Good-bye, $500-million!

"I'm guessing your own words there lay a perfect foundation for the comparison of the "voters promptly thanking Donnie in 2018" by massively flipping the House..."

Which is worse? A) in 2010, the Dems lose 63-House & 6-Senate seats; or B) in 2018, Republicans lose 40-House seats while GAINING two-seats in the Senate, enough to help Mitch easily confirm President Trump's next U.S. Supreme Court nominee!

"Only if you choose to ignore that Obama set the waves in motion..."

"Set the waves in motion?" In other words, Obama purposefully presided over eight-years of economic stagnation, with the idea that only AFTER he left the White House would the economy take-off under Trump's leadership? Yeah, I suppose if that's all you've got then go ahead and run with it!

 

[JKendallDane]

What waves? Specifically......

LOL it's ok we all know you got nothing.

Nibble on these graphs from the St. Louis Fed as an appetizer and get back to me when you're ready for your soup and salad. We can also discuss your choice of main courses then.

https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/us-unemployment-05-17-600x527.png

https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/us-real-gdp-2007-2016-600x558.png

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[YDB95]

Which is worse? A) in 2010, the Dems lose 63-House & 6-Senate seats; or B) in 2018, Republicans lose 40-House seats while GAINING two-seats in the Senate, enough to help Mitch easily confirm President Trump's next U.S. Supreme Court nominee!

2010: Republicans won popular vote 48-42, and won 24 of 37 seats (65%)
2018: Democrats won popular vote 58-39, and won 22 of 33 seats (67%)

Which one looks worse to you, Dump?

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 asks: "Which one looks worse to you, Dump?"

Great question, YDB95 - let's take a good look and see if we can both agree, okay?

"2010: Republicans won popular vote 48-42, and won 24 of 37 seats (65%)"

Yes, on the surface that certainly sounds like a bit of a RED WAVE, doesn't it? But we won't know for certain until we break-it-down further to determine the number of seats won and/or lost, am I right?

Okay... in 2010, the Democrats lost a whopping 63-House seats, losing control of the House - and they ALSO lost 6-Senate seats, which was the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party's control of the U.S. Senate (where the G.O.P. has since dominated) - am I right?

"2018: Democrats won popular vote 58-39, and won 22 of 33 seats (67%)"

Again, on the surface it certainly looks like a BLUE WAVE, doesn't it? But once again we can't say for certain until we break-it-down to seats won & lost, correct? And if it's anything like 2010's 63-House & 6-Senate seats changing hands then that'll be HUGE!

Okay... here we go - in 2018, the Democrats picked-up 40-House seats, enough to give them control of the House of Representatives (lost by Obama eight-years earlier), but in the U.S. Senate the Democrats actually LOST a net two-seats, which was a VICTORY for majority-leader Mitch McConnell & President Trump, especially in regard to future U.S. Supreme Court nomination battles and/or future impeachment efforts!

According to our U.S. Constitution, I'd have to say that 2010 was a LOT worse for the Democrats than 2018 was for the Republicans! That increased-senate majority means that ANY attempt by the House Democrats to remove Trump from office is pretty-much dead-on-arrival!

 

[JKendallDane]

JKendall Dane writes: "You cackle out loud when you type those ridiculous buzzwords, don't ya' Dump?"

And WHY should I cackle out loud? Barack Obama really WAS America's "food stamps president," whether I wished it or not! He had to be, in order to keep inner city people in poverty, and dependent upon federal government hand-outs and voting for Democrats! Look at Elijah Cummings & his rat-&-rodent-infested west Baltimore congressional district! It's a Democratic Party stronghold!

By chance, were you wearing a white sheet when you typed that?

"You don't care about any facts regarding the Solyndra belly-up thing, except to use it as a slam..."

It's easy to explain, Jay-Kendall! President Obama truly believed that it was the federal government's responsibility to create businesses & jobs, and so he "invested" $500-million taxpayer-dollars to GREEN ENERGY Solyndra as a way to save our planet and create thousands of new Green Energy jobs, but because Barack was an economic simpleton, that corporation declared bankruptcy instead. Good-bye, $500-million!

Well, you have the ancient talking points from the teabaggers down pat, Dump, so let's look at something that involves facts now, shall we?

In 2011, solar panel company Solyndra defaulted on a $535 million loan guaranteed by the Department of Energy. The agency had a few other high-profile bankruptcies, too — electric car company Fisker and solar company Abound among them. But now that loan program has started turning a profit.

Overall, the agency has loaned $34.2 billion to a variety of businesses, under a program designed to speed up development of clean-energy technology. Companies have defaulted on $780 million of that — a loss rate of 2.28 percent. The agency also has collected $810 million in interest payments, putting the program $30 million in the black.

When Congress created the loan program under the Energy Policy Act of 2005, it was never designed to be a moneymaker. In fact, Congress imagined there would be losses and set aside $10 billion to cover them.

Still, when the Solyndra case emerged, Republicans on Capitol Hill had pointed criticism for the Obama administration. Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., called the Solyndra case "disgusting," and Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, labeled it "a colossal failure." The conservative group Americans for Prosperity produced a television ad accusing President Obama of paying back campaign contributors.

There was an FBI raid on Solyndra's headquarters and an investigation but, so far, no prosecutions. Now that the loan program is turning a profit, those critics are silent. They either declined or ignored NPR's requests for comment.

Since I bitch at you about attribution & links, I also walk my own talk. You are welcome to peruse the entire article at your leisure with this link:

NPR report on Solyndra, et al

Screeching "But whataboutSolyndra" has been nothing more than straw-manning for a bunch of years. It's time to retire that old hag.

"I'm guessing your own words there lay a perfect foundation for the comparison of the "voters promptly thanking Donnie in 2018" by massively flipping the House..."

Which is worse? A) in 2010, the Dems lose 63-House & 6-Senate seats; or B) in 2018, Republicans lose 40-House seats while GAINING two-seats in the Senate, enough to help Mitch easily confirm President Trump's next U.S. Supreme Court nominee!

Let's see...the Dems still controlled the Senate from 2011 to 2015, and even after eking out the win in the 2014 midterms, Mitch had no supermajority and had to rely on "Obstruct! Obstruct! Obstruct!" as his only game plan...the same spot he remains in yet today, in spite of your "massive win" claims for 2018.

The House has similarly flip-flopped back and forth since 2008, with no easy "super veto-override power" being there for either party. The one thing that the current House does have, is a Dem majority large enough and strong enough to guarantee 45 is sweating bullets over today's news.

"Only if you choose to ignore that Obama set the waves in motion..."

"Set the waves in motion?" In other words, Obama purposefully presided over eight-years of economic stagnation, with the idea that only AFTER he left the White House would the economy take-off under Trump's leadership? Yeah, I suppose if that's all you've got then go ahead and run with it!

I hate to keep reminding you, Dump (and pretty sure, YDB is also), but that "take off" you keep yapping about is kind of like Thomas Cook right now...not flying much at all when you accept the fact that 45 has yet to equal or exceed Obama's best GDP numbers and every financial expert from Forbes to Barrons to Bloomberg to the WSJ to the Fed and even the legendary "Oracle of Omaha" Warren Buffett says that Donnie's economy is no better than Obama's by almost every critical measure out there.

Good grief, even the Dow can't decide what to do because anything 45 does do even half right, he screws it up with a tweet 48 hours later and spooks all the markets again. It's up the grandest, bigliest, most fantabulous, never-before-seen-in history total of 191 points in the last twenty months. "WHOO~HOO! Pop the champagne corks and pick out that forty-foot yacht! The dough is just rollin' in faster than we can spend it!"

One-hundred-ninety-one points in twenty months, Dump. Do the math! And that's after 45 gave the economy that infamous sugar rush injection of an unfunded, multi-trillion dollar tax cut to the poor souls at the top that needed it the most.

Yeah, tell us ALL some more about that "take off economy" that's sitting in the hanger looking for a qualified pilot to crank the engines.

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[Dumpington]

JKendallDane writes: "By chance, were you wearing a white sheet when you typed that?"

Do I look like Democratic Party U.S. Senator (and former Ku Kux Klan "Exalted Cyclops) Robert Byrd to you, Jay-Kendall? Well, DO I?

I am NOT a Democrat!

"Since I bitch at you about attribution & links..."

By any chance, were you wearing a white sheet when you typed that?

"The one thing that the current House does have, is a Dem majority large enough and strong enough to guarantee 45 is sweating bullets over today's news."

Controlling the House is NOT enough to remove Trump from office! If the Democrats still had a huge majority in the U.S. Senate then yes, Trump might be sweating bullets! But the REPUBLICANS control the senate, Jay-Kendall! The Dems are powerless to remove him from office without the Republicans agreeing with them (and they do NOT!)

"One-hundred-ninety-one points in twenty months, Dump. Do the math!"

The stock market today is MUCH STRONGER than it was back on January 20, 2017 - the day when President Trump took office - DO THE MATH!