Why Has the Quality of Submissions to Literotica Plummeted so Dramatically?

[Misshotndeep]

I can answer this one. Someone went on the site, stole a bunch of stories and sold them as their own on Amazon. So many of the good authors stop submitting so they were not robbed. do I get a prize?

 

[Hypoxia]

do I get a prize?

The asteroid is en-route.

Meanwhile, we have choices. We can give away our creativity on LIT. We can practice on LIT to build our literary chops. We can write provocative stuff that enrages trolls, thickening our skins to their fucktardage. We can post stuff in the marketplace and when it stops selling, move it to LIT. We can hope some deep-pocket savior spies our brilliant work and offers patronage. Hay, Santa!

ObTopic: I dunno if quality here has dropped; I don't read much. Shoot me.

 

[KeithD]

ObTopic: I dunno if quality here has dropped; I don't read much. Shoot me.

No one else (other than maybe Laurel) can say quality has dropped either. No one reads enough of the file to make such a judgment.

 

[SamScribble]

ObTopic: I dunno if quality here has dropped; I don't read much. Shoot me.

Bang! Bang! (Does that mean that I now get the prize?)

 

[acerbedingfield]

yeah the quality has gone down a lot on here. Reading stuff from just three years ago brings that truth out sadly.

So many more children writing. So many more children writing. Its not enjoyable to see that people who haven't even figured out how to masturbate themselves have taken to writing sex stories.

Not just the sex parts, but the actual story parts. Sometimes you find THREE stories running together as one solid piece of shitty prose. Some is so bad, you literally have different story between paragraphs.

 

[KeithD]

yeah the quality has gone down a lot on here. Reading stuff from just three years ago brings that truth out sadly.

Again, you couldn't possibly have read enough here (before and now) to make such an assessment. And it's irritating that anyone would be so simplistic as to claim to be able to do so.

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

My old brain (what's left of it) is comfortable reading classic SF of the 1940's-80's. Some remains classic. Much is funny re: forecast technology. Still landline phones and room-size computers. And future folks smoke. Tobacco. Yikes. Not to mention rampant sexism, racism, nationalism, etc. Some old Hugo winners likely wouldn't make the cut now. But they're what SF writers built on.

And old LIT stories are what the current crop are built on. I suspect more than a few of y'all had similar reactions as when I first read here, thinking, "I can write better than THAT!" or "Hey, that gives me an idea," or "That's how I want to write when I grow up." We've some great drama here, even in LW. Dig it up.

I would love to talk to you sometime off line or a separate thread about the state of SF today. Other than Chole and a few others, eyes woudl glaze over

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

What's scary is that people will in 15-20 years be referring to 2019 as 'the good old days'. [/QUOTE

It happens. I nearly put my great nephew on the side of the road after he argued with me after asking me why I was listening to the theme to CSI: Miami. And who was The Who?

 

[Hypoxia]

I would love to talk to you sometime off line or a separate thread about the state of SF today. Other than Chole and a few others, eyes woudl glaze over

Alas, I'm quite ignorant of contemporary SciFi. I blame age and short attention span. I can navigate a few Ferdinand Feghoots but that's about it.

ObTopic: Human visual deterioration seems to include what were called "rose-colored-glasses" I.e. we forget the bad and romanticize the rest. I'll point to classic archivist Otto Bettmann's THE GOOD OLD DAYS -- THEY WERE AWFUL! Yes, that applies widely. Here too, undoubtedly. Ay yi yi.

 

[ChloeTzang]

yeah the quality has gone down a lot on here. Reading stuff from just three years ago brings that truth out sadly.

So many more children writing. So many more children writing. Its not enjoyable to see that people who haven't even figured out how to masturbate themselves have taken to writing sex stories.

Not just the sex parts, but the actual story parts. Sometimes you find THREE stories running together as one solid piece of shitty prose. Some is so bad, you literally have different story between paragraphs.

Lay off the booze and drink some coffee, she says, very sternly. Play nice.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I would love to talk to you sometime off line or a separate thread about the state of SF today. Other than Chole and a few others, eyes woudl glaze over

Ohhhh start that thread. I can talk SF until everyone’s eyes glaze over.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Ohhhh start that thread. I can talk SF until everyone’s eyes glaze over.

Me too. SF is in my blood.

 

[SimonDoom]

Alas, I'm quite ignorant of contemporary SciFi. I blame age and short attention span. I can navigate a few Ferdinand Feghoots but that's about it.

ObTopic: Human visual deterioration seems to include what were called "rose-colored-glasses" I.e. we forget the bad and romanticize the rest. I'll point to classic archivist Otto Bettmann's THE GOOD OLD DAYS -- THEY WERE AWFUL! Yes, that applies widely. Here too, undoubtedly. Ay yi yi.

I quite agree about the mythical "good old days." I find myself thinking more and more that way, despite efforts not to.

I don't buy the idea that story quality here has deteriorated as a whole. I think it's just that people have their favorite authors from their early days here as readers, and many of those authors are gone. Some readers simply may have lost motivation to keep up reading Lit stories as often as they did in the past. We cling to what we already know.

 

[TxRad]

I quite agree about the mythical "good old days." I find myself thinking more and more that way, despite efforts not to.

I don't buy the idea that story quality here has deteriorated as a whole. I think it's just that people have their favorite authors from their early days here as readers, and many of those authors are gone. Some readers simply may have lost motivation to keep up reading Lit stories as often as they did in the past. We cling to what we already know.

A lot of very good authors are gone from Lit. There were a large number that hung out in the AH and they are no longer around. A couple are publishers now. A bunch have moved on to mainstream. Life and people are always changing. Sometimes it's good and some time, not so good.

The quality of the stories is in the eyes of the beholder.

 

[Hypoxia]

The quality of the stories is in the eyes of the beholder.

https://media.tenor.com/images/d3ee503a7b48fc8d71e7747ba8d4efa6/tenor.gif

The quality of my proofreading after several retinal and corneal surgeries was surprisingly good because I had to concentrate. For the rest -- well, brain surgery may be necessary.

 

[acerbedingfield]

Lay off the booze and drink some coffee, she says, very sternly. Play nice.

I cant drink booze. It makes me smile. That scares the SHIT outta people. Lots of people have pissed there pants when I went around at work smiling.

But holding and petting the invisible cat kind of promotes that don't ya think..


To much on here is a joke, to much on here is pure shit. Too much on here is mere repeating of what someone else had written.

To much on here is done in a way that you can only imagine was by a child that wanted to sound like an adult but had no idea of what adult means.

When a writer writes in a style similar to 50 shades, you know they are a hack. When they cant even remember their charecters name between paragraphs..... you know they are nuts.

When a writer doesn't comprehend basic biology and has a man and woman making out in a closet and she has the guys fingers in her mouth, pussy and ass at the same time while hes rubbing her clit..... someone doesn't have concept

 

[Hypoxia]

When a writer writes in a style similar to 50 shades, you know they are a hack.

Only if paid for it. Write a pop pulp novel every week and you, too, can deforest Canada. For money.

When they cant even remember their charecters name between paragraphs..... you know they are nuts.

Or frenzied. I've slipped names in the blazing heat of creativity and the slack of insufficient proofing. One-handed readers didn't seem to care or notice. Does that make me nutz or not? Compared to what?

When a writer doesn't comprehend basic biology and has a man and woman making out in a closet and she has the guys fingers in her mouth, pussy and ass at the same time while hes rubbing her clit..... someone doesn't have concept

That depends on the level of seriousness and reality-vs-fantasy intended. Throw in aliens, ghosts, mutants and/or identical twins, and voila! Suck-cess!

I'm reminded of an old H*Y*M*A*N . K*A*P*L*A*N piece where immigrant Hymie, in an ESL class exercise, composes a note to his uncle: "If your eye falls on anything nice, please pick it up for me." His uncle had a removable glass eye. Ha. If a pr0n player possesses non-standard anatomy, well...

If you want unreal biology and other science, read presidential tweets.

 

[ChloeTzang]

... When a writer doesn't comprehend basic biology and has a man and woman making out in a closet and she has the guys fingers in her mouth, pussy and ass at the same time while hes rubbing her clit..... someone doesn't have concept

Aliens, I tell you. There are aliens amongst us and we don’t know it until we’re making out in the closet and oh fuck? What? Three hands? Oooohhhh ohhhhh oh fuck... tentacles? Oh my god!!! Help! Aidez-moi! .... stingers on the ends of the tentacles? Paralyzed? Fangs? Tripodic tentacular aliens with fangs? Aaaahhhh.

 

[BelleCanzuto]

yeah the quality has gone down a lot on here. Reading stuff from just three years ago brings that truth out sadly.

So many more children writing. So many more children writing. Its not enjoyable to see that people who haven't even figured out how to masturbate themselves have taken to writing sex stories.

Not just the sex parts, but the actual story parts. Sometimes you find THREE stories running together as one solid piece of shitty prose. Some is so bad, you literally have different story between paragraphs.

Hunny, I started reading here around the turn of the century, I'd read here for a while, forget about the site, remember it again, read here a while, in cycles. Everything you just wrote was just as true in 2001 as it is now. And in 2010.

 

[BelleCanzuto]

It happens. I nearly put my great nephew on the side of the road after he argued with me after asking me why I was listening to the theme to CSI: Miami. And who was The Who?

OMG that hurts my heart.

 

[Bramblethorn]

When a writer doesn't comprehend basic biology and has a man and woman making out in a closet and she has the guys fingers in her mouth, pussy and ass at the same time while hes rubbing her clit..... someone doesn't have concept

I used something like this in one of my stories:

Cate's tongue flicked his ear and her lips squeezed his rod
And that's when Red realised that something was odd

It didn't end well for Red.

 

[acerbedingfield]

[Denigrating authors and their work is not tolerated in the AH.]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Anyone really delve into Teflers three square meals? several times, well more then several times. They start an orgy and after three pages,,,,, there are actually MORE pussies being used then there are girls on the ship...

There are child writers on here, its sad. It takes skill to notice an intellectual style or even age in what someone writes. But when everything is done in "see jane hump dog. See spot with bloody rectum" format... you just KNOW

Same as with any site like this. Wattpad is the same. 15% is pure crap, 50% isn’t worth the time it takes to read, 15% is okay 5% is really good and 1% are outstanding

 

[KeithD]

Same as with any site like this. Wattpad is the same. 15% is pure crap, 50% isn’t worth the time it takes to read, 15% is okay 5% is really good and 1% are outstanding

That's as much sheer, unsupported (and unsupportable) wild ass guessing as Ace is doing.

 

[SimonDoom]

That's as much sheer, unsupported (and unsupportable) wild ass guessing as Ace is doing.

I wouldn't go quite that far. If one has done enough reading then it's a matter of opinion, not just wild ass guessing. I would put the crap percentage at a somewhat higher number. The percentage of stuff I like is definitely higher than 1 percent but I haven't figured out the percent.