nascar refusing certain gun ads, infuriating the gun industry

[butters]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/13/poli...ogram/index.html?cid=web-alerts&nsid=60135544

Washington (CNN)NASCAR rejected advertisements for its souvenir programs from multiple firearms companies earlier this summer as part of what is being seen as a "gradual shift" in its position on guns.

The move may be another example of how major companies are adjusting as the nation grapples with guns in America.

While the move did not get widespread notice, NASCAR'S apparent shift stunned gun enthusiasts who said there is a large overlap between NASCAR fans and gun owners, and left some in the firearms industry questioning why NASCAR's viewpoint has shifted and where the racing organization now stands on Second Amendment issues.

"They've got the drivers shooting off blanks in the winner's circle. It doesn't make any sense," David Dolbee, the general manager for K-Var Corp., a large distributor of firearms, which submitted an advertisement that was rejected featuring an AK-47 and various accessories.

After a third-party advertising vendor solicited ads for an official NASCAR program earlier this year, the vendor followed up with gun companies in August to inform them NASCAR had rejected advertisements that depicted "assault-style rifles/sniper rifles."

got the gun people up in arms...
they're still accepting ads for regular guns/rifles, just not the ak type of stuff and the manufacturers are squealing that nascar will lose its most ardent fan base and how it makes no sense blah blah blah

 

[butters]

walmart, & dick's sporting goods are also reducing sales of ammo and guns designated as 'assault-style'. dick's stopped selling the assault-style weapons after the parkland shootings, and no longer sells guns or ammo in 125 of its stores at all.

145 ceo's sign letter telling the gov't it needs to take action on gun safety regulations:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/business-leaders-letter-gun-violence/index.html

 

[pointless]

it's because they make more money off of the assault rifles.

 

[butters]

when everyday people have to think twice when it comes to going to church, school, or shopping (though it seems schoolkids' concerns were not enough to sway the bulk of opinion), that WILL filter through to business leaders and affect the way they advertise/sell/enable the kinds of weapons used in the mass killings of late.

 

[Rightguide]

Some anti-American Democrat provocateurs must have infiltrated the board of Directors.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Some anti-American Democrat provocateurs must have infiltrated the board of Directors.

Yes, Vette. That must've been the reason.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/nm6Gv6etTa3oA/giphy.gif

It's always an "Anti-American Democrat" saboteur/provocateur/assassin/mole/spy/plant/spook/etc., making these sort of corporate decisions come around.

 

[pointless]

valuing human life over corporate profits = anti-american. yep. checks out. that's some rock solid psychopath math.

 

[butters]

valuing human life over corporate profits = anti-american. yep. checks out. that's some rock solid psychopath math.

that's how trumplicans think, unless it's their own life on the line

i have faith that the majority of americans are NOT thinking like that

 

[HisArpy]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/13/poli...ogram/index.html?cid=web-alerts&nsid=60135544

got the gun people up in arms...
they're still accepting ads for regular guns/rifles, just not the ak type of stuff and the manufacturers are squealing that nascar will lose its most ardent fan base and how it makes no sense blah blah blah

More overblown hype. I didn't read that anyone was "infuriated" at all. If you don't believe me go run a word search (Ctrl F) in the article for the word and see if you can find it.

The word "infuriated", or any variation thereof, ain't there.

 

[Adre]

The NRA is marching towards irrelevance.

 

[HisArpy]

The NRA is marching towards irrelevance.

This really sounds more like whistling past the graveyard rather than anything that can be substantiated.

 

[Klinkster]

The NRA is marching towards irrelevance.

Same can be said about the NFL......

 

[heathergives]

The NRA is marching towards irrelevance.

As is NASCAR. Both event attendance and viewership is down across the board.

(and yes, my ex and I attended a race or two almost every year.)

 

[Klinkster]

As is NASCAR. Both event attendance and viewership is down across the board.

(and yes, my ex and I attended a race or two almost every year.)

Yup....been declining for several years.

Same can be said of the NFL.

 

[Adre]

This really sounds more like whistling past the graveyard rather than anything that can be substantiated.

“But the potency of the NRA’s current influence is in real doubt. One Republican congressional aide said the NRA's “tired tactics and empty threats” have become a joke among Republican staffers on Capitol Hill. “When the Democrats and gun control groups depict the NRA as this major boogeyman, they’re honestly giving them too much credit,” the aide said.

The NRA’s spending on federal elections dropped significantly to $9.5 million in 2018 from $27 million in 2014, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks money in politics. In Pennsylvania's 2016 Senate race, the NRA didn't go after Toomey despite opposing his efforts to co-sponsor background check legislation with Manchin. “They didn't help him, but they didn't go after him either,” a Republican official familiar with the race said.

“The problem is that many people on both sides of the gun debate have looked at the NRA as the only voice for pro-gun efforts and the crisis over there is now allowing American gun owners to hit the pause button and realize the NRA hasn’t been the best voice or face of gun owners for a long time,” Pincus said.”

-Politico

Articles like this are easy to find these days. Trump is one of the few people around who seem afraid of the NRA at this point.

 

[HisArpy]

“But the potency of the NRA’s current influence is in real doubt. One Republican congressional aide said the NRA's “tired tactics and empty threats” have become a joke among Republican staffers on Capitol Hill. “When the Democrats and gun control groups depict the NRA as this major boogeyman, they’re honestly giving them too much credit,” the aide said.

The NRA’s spending on federal elections dropped significantly to $9.5 million in 2018 from $27 million in 2014, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks money in politics. In Pennsylvania's 2016 Senate race, the NRA didn't go after Toomey despite opposing his efforts to co-sponsor background check legislation with Manchin. “They didn't help him, but they didn't go after him either,” a Republican official familiar with the race said.

“The problem is that many people on both sides of the gun debate have looked at the NRA as the only voice for pro-gun efforts and the crisis over there is now allowing American gun owners to hit the pause button and realize the NRA hasn’t been the best voice or face of gun owners for a long time,” Pincus said.”

-Politico

Articles like this are easy to find these days. Trump is one of the few people around who seem afraid of the NRA at this point.

Again with the "unnamed sources".

Hit pieces are easy to write when you don't have to name names and most of the MSM outlets are fully engaged in that.

It never seems to be true after it's investigated though. Which is another one of those things that make you go; hmmmm...

 

[Klinkster]

Don't know much about the NRA do you?
Not what they do, that's for sure.

First hand experience.....you seem to have none.
What you read, from who the hell knows....that's what, and all, you got.

Maybe you should go to nra.com, and look.
Maybe you should go to an NRA sanctioned competition, and see what they do.
You won't. You might learn what they....we.....really are.

“But the potency of the NRA’s current influence is in real doubt. One Republican congressional aide said the NRA's “tired tactics and empty threats” have become a joke among Republican staffers on Capitol Hill. “When the Democrats and gun control groups depict the NRA as this major boogeyman, they’re honestly giving them too much credit,” the aide said.

The NRA’s spending on federal elections dropped significantly to $9.5 million in 2018 from $27 million in 2014, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks money in politics. In Pennsylvania's 2016 Senate race, the NRA didn't go after Toomey despite opposing his efforts to co-sponsor background check legislation with Manchin. “They didn't help him, but they didn't go after him either,” a Republican official familiar with the race said.

“The problem is that many people on both sides of the gun debate have looked at the NRA as the only voice for pro-gun efforts and the crisis over there is now allowing American gun owners to hit the pause button and realize the NRA hasn’t been the best voice or face of gun owners for a long time,” Pincus said.”

-Politico

Articles like this are easy to find these days. Trump is one of the few people around who seem afraid of the NRA at this point.

 

[Adre]

I know what you were. That time has passed.

 

[phrodeau]

walmart, & dick's sporting goods are also reducing sales of ammo and guns designated as 'assault-style'. dick's stopped selling the assault-style weapons after the parkland shootings, and no longer sells guns or ammo in 125 of its stores at all.

145 ceo's sign letter telling the gov't it needs to take action on gun safety regulations:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/business-leaders-letter-gun-violence/index.html

I went to a Dick's Sporting Goods recently. It was 95% clothing and shoe racks. Had escalators between the floors, and no stairs.

 

[Klinkster]

I went to a Dick's Sporting Goods recently. It was 95% clothing and shoe racks. Had escalators between the floors, and no stairs.

I slept at a Holiday Inn Express recently.

What is your point?

 

[butters]

"I think we should continue to be true to what we are. Where we came from. I think the racing is really good now. But, I also recognize the fact that NASCAR is not the only sport that is struggling with their fan base. All sports are.

There’s a reason for that. Because young people have different interests. There’s competition for their interests, 1000 times over what it was when we grew up."

Martin also noted that the youngest few generations simply aren’t into car culture in general like previous ones were, which is an opinion that’s hard to argue. But he reiterated that the “product is not the problem.”

"The problem is, the world’s changing. And our generations are changing. You can do your best to fight that but it’s definitely a tough battle to try to bring new people’s eyes to our sport and keep ’em there.''

https://fansided.com/2018/07/25/mark-martin-best-take-decline-nascar-attendance-ratings/

times they are a'changing... and it's harder (surely) to interest the younger generations who are looking to more modern forms of entertainment and who generally have a more vested interest in their future, meaning not advertising assault/sniper style weaponry in their programmes/flyers is moving with the times. too many youngsters have seen, possibly experienced, the increase in mass school shootings; expand that outward to include places of worship, shopping, and cultural events that have been attacked (many of those latter venues patronised by america's youth), it would be blinkered of the nascar people to continue to show support via publishing those ads.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Trump is one of the few people around who seem afraid of the NRA at this point.

Nobody has ever been afraid of the NRA, except anti-gun nuts who don't know a fucking thing about the NRA or guns.

and who generally have a more vested interest in their future,

That must explain the skyrocketing substance abuse, depression and suicide across western civilization.

meaning not advertising assault/sniper style weaponry in their programmes/flyers is moving with the times.

"Style" like that has anything to do with anything.

too many youngsters have seen, possibly experienced, the increase in mass school shootings; expand that outward to include places of worship, shopping, and cultural events that have been attacked (many of those latter venues patronised by america's youth), it would be blinkered of the nascar people to continue to show support via publishing those ads.

You mean the microscopic sub 1% of kids in the USA??

Jesus fucking Christ on a cross trainer.....let me guess you're one of the people who think the USA has turned into a "combat zone" ??

 

[Klinkster]

meaning not advertising assault/sniper style weaponry in their programmes/flyers is moving with the times.

This, is so stupid, on so many levels.

What exactly, is an "assault/sniper style weapon"?
What makes a weapon qualify to fit this 'class'....what is the criteria?

I keep asking the question, but none of you gun grabbers seem to know....since none of you have answered the question.

Is it that difficult, to be able to define the thing you so want you deny American's, or anybody for that matter, to own? Is it that difficult to explain, what you want to confiscate?
It appears so.

 

[jp55665566]

Children are exposed to an enormous number of shootings, killings, murder and glorification/glamorization of such activity as an ubiquitous part of our culture; and not as a result of anything the NRA or "gun industry" is doing. I doubt very much the "gun industry" is "infuriated" about anything. The NRA is staunchly opposed to the frivolous use, and senseless proliferation of, firearms. We keep firearms as a necessary precaution, and deterrent against oppressive and authoritarian Government.
If you want to do something, protest Hollywood's glorification and glamorization of gun-enabled criminal behavior.

 

[butters]

Children are exposed to an enormous number of shootings, killings, murder and glorification of such perps as an ubiquitous part of our culture; and not as a result of anything the NRA or "gun industry" is doing. I doubt very much the "gun industry" is "infuriated" about anything. The NRA is staunchly opposed to the frivolous use, and senseless proliferation of, firearms. We keep firearms as a necessary precaution, and deterrent against oppressive and authoritarian Government.
If you want to do something, protest Hollywood's glorification and glamorization of gun-enabled criminal behavior.

whatever gets you through the night