Finally!!! (NRA = Terror Group)

[YDB95]

Was this a trick question?

If I had to guess, he's probably arguing that NRA members aren't the ones who go around shooting up crowds of innocent people. True enough, they're just the ones who make it incredibly easy for people who have no business being anywhere near a gun to amass a closet-full of them.

 

[magicalmoments]

The NRA isn't committing any terror at all. The NRA does not control our Government. A majority of citizens, wisely, choose to preserve their Constitutional right to "keep and bear arms" << a necessary guard against oppressive Government. The "Evening News", spouting anti-Trump administration lies("the President is a racist"), is more of a terrorist organization than the NRA.

How many of those citizens are members of a well ordered militia?
Where can members of the public view the rolls?

 

[magicalmoments]

Except Lenin was ALL about the forced confiscation of private property and oppression of individual liberty.

The US patriot fights for individual liberty, the communist is a fights for collective equity.

Lenin may have had a different end in mind but the rhetoric is identical.

But when they're crawling stealthily across the field toward you, how do you distinguish one from the other? Or do you take them all out just go be on the safe side.

Personally, I think your freedoms are more at risk from trump, "the chosen one" the claim of Royal kings, than from the democrats. You yanks have already had a scrap to get rid of one King, your next scrap is likely to be to get rid of another. Remember, Napolean, came to power a republican, declared himself emporer and his base support loved him. Didn't end well though.

 

[My I]

All of them, for being willing members of a domestic terrorist organization that is supporting mass killing. They chose to join an organization that fosters mass murder. Was this a trick question?

Then you need to publicly announce those charges, give your evidence to the FBI and have us all arrested.

(513) 421-4310 That's the number. Call it.

 

[My I]

How many of those citizens are members of a well ordered militia?
Where can members of the public view the rolls?

Every male 18 yrs of age or older is a member of the "well regulated militia". But as you are not an American, you wouldn't know a damn thing about that.

 

[magicalmoments]

Every male 18 yrs of age or older is a member of the "well regulated militia". But as you are not an American, you wouldn't know a damn thing about that.

Yes, that's why I'm asking. Why just men? Aren't Yankee women patriots? Why 18, that's below legal drinking age, seems a bit unfair? Give me a reference so I can learn more.

 

[My I]

Yes, that's why I'm asking. Why just men? Aren't Yankee women patriots? Why 18, that's below legal drinking age, seems a bit unfair? Give me a reference so I can learn more.

Because when the equal rights amendment passed in 1976 women got their "equal" rights. They didn't get equal RESPONSIBILITY. And that was what THEY wanted.

18 is the age of consent. Legal adulthood. It's the liberals that constantly want to change all that and make things confusing. 18 is age of consent but you have to be 21 to purchase alcohol, but the Libs want voting age dropped to 16 so they can get enough votes to win, but you have to be 21 to buy a gun because people younger than that are not responsible. Does THAT make sense?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Lenin may have had a different end in mind but the rhetoric is identical.

Populism is populism....but the reasoning and goals are very different.

But when they're crawling stealthily across the field toward you, how do you distinguish one from the other? Or do you take them all out just go be on the safe side.

1) Line of advancement.

2) Lefties are too lazy to low crawl for very long.

Personally, I think your freedoms are more at risk from trump, "the chosen one" the claim of Royal kings, than from the democrats.

Based on what?

Democrats are running on essentially shit canning a number of our rights in exchange for all the free things for everyone!!! fantasy.

Trump has done nothing to attack my personal liberty. He even let me keep more of my money....increasing my personal liberty and decreasing how much the state is oppressing me.

You yanks have already had a scrap to get rid of one King, your next scrap is likely to be to get rid of another.

Unlikely....our next scrap is shaping up to be a civil war between the authoritarian and revolutionary left vs. the traditional liberal US.

And it's going to be a bad time for the left.

Remember, Napolean, came to power a republican, declared himself emporer and his base support loved him. Didn't end well though.

What are you talking about? Didn't end well?

The guy practically conquered Europe and liberalized most of it for the better part of a century until authoritarianism started rearing it's head out of Germany.

He's a fucking hero of modern western liberal democracy....that's why Marx was so scathingly critical of him.

Nobody hates liberty more than the left.....individual liberty = individual outcomes.....and lefties can't stand that shit.

 

[phrodeau]

Every male 18 yrs of age or older is a member of the "well regulated militia". But as you are not an American, you wouldn't know a damn thing about that.

Not a well-regulated one. Pretty poorly regulated, in fact. If we want to be a militia that’s worth anything, we’re going to need a lot more regulations.

 

[My I]

Not a well-regulated one. Pretty poorly regulated, in fact. If we want to be a militia that’s worth anything, we’re going to need a lot more regulations.

Obviously you want to take the modern usage of the word "regulated" instead of the common usage at the time the Bill of Rights was written. When they wrote "well regulated" they did not mean controlled and suppressed. They meant properly equipped and prepared.

It's you Liberals who want to destroy the militia. Just like the socialist dictators you are.

 

[phrodeau]

Obviously you want to take the modern usage of the word "regulated" instead of the common usage at the time the Bill of Rights was written. When they wrote "well regulated" they did not mean controlled and suppressed. They meant properly equipped and prepared.

It's you Liberals who want to destroy the militia. Just like the socialist dictators you are.

Is that a fact? Then to be properly equipped means merely having muskets and dueling pistols.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not a well-regulated one. Pretty poorly regulated, in fact. If we want to be a militia that’s worth anything, we’re going to need a lot more regulations.

Depends on what the militia is being used for.

In most cases you don't need a lot more regulations, just willing volunteers and competent leadership.

Again you seem woefully out of your depth on this topic.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Is that a fact? Then to be properly equipped means merely having muskets and dueling pistols.

Not in 2019 it doesn't.

LOL no.....properly equipped means light infantry gear.

That means every sort of carbine,SMG,rifle and pistol imaginable, preferably with IR lasers and ANPVS-14 or better NVG's.

If we were doing things right full auto would be available in all 50 states.

 

[My I]

Is that a fact? Then to be properly equipped means merely having muskets and dueling pistols.

In Heller vs DC SCOTUS ruled that "Any firearm in common, lawful use is protected under the 2nd amendment". This is because "well regulated" meant equipped with weapons of war. You do not stand prepared to defend your country and your freedom with muskets and dueling pistols in this day and age.

Though truthfully the next war is going to break out election night 2020 and our enemy will be armed with frozen water bottles, umbrellas, Molotov cocktails, bricks.... I'm thinking muskets and dueling pistols would serve the militia well for that one.

 

[phrodeau]

Not in 2019 it doesn't.

LOL no.....properly equipped means light infantry gear.

That means every sort of carbine,SMG,rifle and pistol imaginable, preferably with IR lasers and ANPVS-14 or better NVG's.

If we were doing things right full auto would be available in all 50 states.

Obviously you want to take the modern usage of the words instead of the common usage at the time the Bill of Rights was written.

 

[My I]

Obviously you want to take the modern usage of the words instead of the common usage at the time the Bill of Rights was written.

Explain that. How is that NOT what was meant by the original intent of the 2nd amendment? Explain it.

 

[DroolinFool]

Well, we agree that politicians and judges can be purchased by those with money/power. For example, Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders.

1. Daily Drunk Driving Deaths: 29
2. Daily Deaths from Crossing the Street: 16
3. Daily Distracted Driving Deaths: 9
4. Daily Deaths by Knives and Other Sharp Instruments: 4
5. Daily Deaths from Bicycles: 2.7
6. Daily Deaths by Hammers and Other Blunt Objects: 1.27
7. Daily number of deaths from all types of rifles combined is 1.1 (including AR-15 type "assault" weapons.

Don't forget daily deaths from smoking related illnesses. Liberals don't give a fuck about lives lost to preventable causes. If they did, quantitatively, firearms deaths wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Obviously you want to take the modern usage of the words instead of the common usage at the time the Bill of Rights was written.

No, I'm taking the original usage of the words when the BoR was written and applying them to today.

 

[My I]

Don't forget daily deaths from smoking related illnesses. Liberals don't give a fuck about lives lost to preventable causes. If they did, quantitatively, firearms deaths wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

2000+ teenagers killed last year as a direct result of texting and driving.
20k+ (est) deaths as the result of cellular devices while driving, walking, riding etc. last year.

But it's the Conservatives that don't care about the children. It's the Conservatives that all want to kill everyone.

 

[jaF0]

This thread isn't about whatever doubleknocker drivelbabble y'all are on about.

 

[jp55665566]

This thread isn't about whatever doubleknocker drivelbabble y'all are on about.

Do you really want to rescind the 2nd amendment? Or, confiscate firearms from law-abiding citizens? What is it that you want?

 

[DroolinFool]

Do you really want to rescind the 2nd amendment? Or, confiscate firearms from law-abiding citizens? What is it that you want?

He has nothing of value to add to the threads. He's just looking to make a nonsensical post and move on.

 

[jaF0]

What is it that you want?

To stay on the topic of the thread.

 

[jp55665566]

To stay on the topic of the thread.

What is it that you want in terms of "gun-control"?

 

[DroolinFool]

To stay on the topic of the thread.

No, you're not. You dove off topic. You use claims with no possible means of backing with real data. Blah.