So, Beyond Burger...

[jomar]

I usually get my meat at Food and Stuff, but through a series of events ate one at an outing. Wasn’t bad at all. In fact, I’d have another.

What’s y’alls experience with this blasphemy?

 

[butters]

not had one of those, but i did try the impossible whopper. tasted the same as a regular whopper. which is kind of the point, i suppose but it's not like i ate it and went "WOW! this taste fantastic!" clever they can make it taste the same but the same isn't mind-blowing.

 

[juttjaw]

not had one of those, but i did try the impossible whopper. tasted the same as a regular whopper. which is kind of the point, i suppose but it's not like i ate it and went "WOW! this taste fantastic!" clever they can make it taste the same but the same isn't mind-blowing.

I ate the Impossible the other day. I noticed a earthy aftertaste, a bit like after you eat a beet. Certainly nothing offensive. If I hadn't known what it was, I would of thought it was a whopper with a funky tasting pickle or lettuce. The texture was a bit off too. Again, that's because I knew what it was. Certainly nothing mind blowing. And at 630 calories it's only 30 shy of the regular guy. I wouldn't pay the extra dollar again.

 

[HisArpy]

I can't figure out why Chickpeas (the stuff in these "meatless" wonderfoods) are more expensive to make into food than raising and butchering a cow.

Either growing plants for food is more expensive than raising cows; or, the food producers are ripping off the veggieheads.

Things that make you go hmmmm....

 

[Polyacrylate]

I can't figure out why Chickpeas (the stuff in these "meatless" wonderfoods) are more expensive to make into food than raising and butchering a cow.

Either growing plants for food is more expensive than raising cows; or, the food producers are ripping off the veggieheads.

Things that make you go hmmmm....

The Impossible brand stuff isn't chickpeas; it's heme and genetically modified yeast. Beyond Burgers are pea protein extract and various TVPs.

As for why those are expensive, it's marketing, shelf space, R&D, packaging, shipping, storage, and good old-fashioned money making at work.

But if you're paying a cost per pound of chickpeas what you would for beef, you're certainly getting ripped off. I can get a 5 pound bag for $8, and use it to make several dozen falafel burgers.

 

[butters]

The Impossible brand stuff isn't chickpeas; it's heme and genetically modified yeast. Beyond Burgers are pea protein extract and various TVPs.

As for why those are expensive, it's marketing, shelf space, R&D, packaging, shipping, storage, and good old-fashioned money making at work.

But if you're paying a cost per pound of chickpeas what you would for beef, you're certainly getting ripped off. I can get a 5 pound bag for $8, and use it to make several dozen falafel burgers.

chickpeas go a long long long long way

personally, i like 'em best in hummus

 

[juttjaw]

The Impossible brand stuff isn't chickpeas; it's heme and genetically modified yeast. Beyond Burgers are pea protein extract and various TVPs.

As for why those are expensive, it's marketing, shelf space, R&D, packaging, shipping, storage, and good old-fashioned money making at work.

But if you're paying a cost per pound of chickpeas what you would for beef, you're certainly getting ripped off. I can get a 5 pound bag for $8, and use it to make several dozen falafel burgers.

Impossible Foods gets their heme from the roots of soybean plants. It's the same compund in real beef that makes it taste like beef and gives its its beefy color. Which techniques are better? I suppose that remains to be seen. Again, I've only had the Impossible Burger from Burger King. I would however, like to try a package of the product and see if it still turns out grey as it did in the Whopper. Then again, the beef Whopper is grey. So who knows?

 

[Jada59]

My daughter bought some and hated them. Thought the texture was weird. Not my thing. Not tempted to try. I don't eat a lot of meat and don't eat stuff that pretends to be meat.

 

[LibraStud]

I love eating meat!

 

[juttjaw]

My daughter bought some and hated them. Thought the texture was weird. Not my thing. Not tempted to try. I don't eat a lot of meat and don't eat stuff that pretends to be meat.

With that said, the health benefits aren't even worth it. Maybe somewhere down the road when it becomes a cheaper alternative, I can see it used in school lunch programs and a way to feed masses of people. A method to create a plant based meat product with the benifits of protein would go a long way to feeding a starving third world country. But, not when it's a dollar more than the meat it's trying replicate.

 

[chillywilly2]

not had one of those, but i did try the impossible whopper. tasted the same as a regular whopper. which is kind of the point, i suppose but it's not like i ate it and went "WOW! this taste fantastic!" clever they can make it taste the same but the same isn't mind-blowing.

burger king is basically Fat food. The most unhealthy way to eat

The grease and salt is where the taste is. The bun is totally unhealthy.
just why eat that crap

 

[HisArpy]

With that said, the health benefits aren't even worth it. Maybe somewhere down the road when it becomes a cheaper alternative, I can see it used in school lunch programs and a way to feed masses of people. A method to create a plant based meat product with the benifits of protein would go a long way to feeding a starving third world country. But, not when it's a dollar more than the meat it's trying replicate.

Turns out they did this already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumpy**7nut

The problem here is that food is food. If you don't like some foods, don't eat them. Trying to convert the food heretics to some other foodie religion doesn't work.

Anyone remember that fake oil back in the 70's that turned out to be horrible for your digestive system? This is just like that.

 

[HisArpy]

burger king is basically Fat food. The most unhealthy way to eat

The grease and salt is where the taste is. The bun is totally unhealthy.
just why eat that crap

Because it goes really really good with a milkshake when you're hungry.

 

[butters]

burger king is basically Fat food. The most unhealthy way to eat

The grease and salt is where the taste is. The bun is totally unhealthy.
just why eat that crap

which is why we very rarely eat that

the only reason we decided to try it out was because the three of us women (H wasn't with is) were out on the road, hungry, and where one of us eats veggies most the time we'd thought we'd give the new whopper a try. or, in short, because we bloody well felt like it.

 

[butters]

Impossible Foods gets their heme from the roots of soybean plants. It's the same compund in real beef that makes it taste like beef and gives its its beefy color. Which techniques are better? I suppose that remains to be seen. Again, I've only had the Impossible Burger from Burger King. I would however, like to try a package of the product and see if it still turns out grey as it did in the Whopper. Then again, the beef Whopper is grey. So who knows?

grey?

ours were regular brown on the outside, slightly flushed with pink on the inside. no grey in sight!

 

[thør]

I wish I'd bought stock at the IPO.

 

[Jada59]

With that said, the health benefits aren't even worth it. Maybe somewhere down the road when it becomes a cheaper alternative, I can see it used in school lunch programs and a way to feed masses of people. A method to create a plant based meat product with the benifits of protein would go a long way to feeding a starving third world country. But, not when it's a dollar more than the meat it's trying replicate.

Seems silly to me. Beans and rice would be cheaper and much more nutritious.

 

[jomar]

On the other hand, had a Teton all natural grass fed no hormones/antibiotics type burger that incorporated sea salt and mushrooms. Not a fan, so much.

 

[RocketLauncher]

I thought I'd weigh in on this being an ovi veg.
First off I waited a while before trying A&W's beyond beef burger. The idea of eating something I'd become psychologically averse to disturbed me a little. Not a fan of fast food or meat I gathered up my courage and tried one. Pretty good. Does it taste like meat? I dunno, I haven't eaten meat since I was a teenager. The texture was a little off, I suppose but it was tasty. Next I tried Tim Horton's breakfast sausage. Omg! First time I tried it I thought they had given me real pig or cow. Taste, texture right on the button.
Overall health wise, it is fast food and can in no way be considered healthy. So unless you're trying to lower your cholesterol don't expect the health benefits of a carrot.
What did surprise me was the environmental impact it has.

according to a University of Michigan analysis of the environmental impact of the Beyond Burger, is good news for the climate: relative to a beef burger, production of the Beyond generated 90 per cent fewer greenhouse gas emissions, used 93 per cent less land, 99 per cent less water and about half the energy.
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada...pularity-of-beyond-meat-means-for-our-planet/

Awesome! Would I buy it again? Hell, ya!

ETA before anyone feels sorry for the meat industry Tyson is a backer of beyond beef.

 

[von_Bismarck]

According to a University of Michigan analysis of the environmental impact of the Beyond Burger, is good news for the climate: relative to a beef burger, production of the Beyond generated 90 per cent fewer greenhouse gas emissions, used 93 per cent less land, 99 per cent less water and about half the energy.
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada...pularity-of-beyond-meat-means-for-our-planet/

Awesome! Would I buy it again? Hell, ya!

ETA before anyone feels sorry for the meat industry Tyson is a backer of beyond beef.

The ethical reasons are primarily why I consider transitioning to meat substitutes. Impossible Meat and Beyond Foods are both available in my area now (or soon will be) at roughly comparable price points. That'll get figured into next week's groceries.

 

[thør]

If ethical is what you want....

 

[jomar]

Gotta say I’m a tad disappointed no one got my Ron Swanson reference, but such is life.

 

[Conager]

You eat a burger you and many, many hungry non-Hindus take one cow's life.

The yeast-burgers kill innumerous living things. Seems pretty unethical to place your survival above all those other life-forms.

 

[RocketLauncher]

You eat a burger you and many, many hungry non-Hindus take one cow's life.

The yeast-burgers kill innumerous living things. Seems pretty unethical to place your survival above all those other life-forms.

You eat a cow burger it ain't just one cow it's hundreds, however many they process in the slaughter house that day. The ground cows are all mixed together.

 

[With_David_Bowie]

You eat a cow burger it ain't just one cow it's hundreds, however many they process in the slaughter house that day. The ground cows are all mixed together.

You're right, the more cows the better