Time machine incest

[ElliottEden]

Here's one. Mature guy helps family members with geneology stuff. Files mostly but starts to get involved with old photographs. Realizes a sister of his grandfather is smoking hot...

Sure the whole time thing might get out of control but he just wants to...

That's the story. What happens. Fizzle, a bit of post WW2 ruined orgasm, or a real fucking to the time line. As well as to grandpa's sister.

 

[Carnevil9]

In Heinlein's "Time Enough for Love," the main character goes back in time and fucks his own mother (in a car) while he himself, as a child, is sleeping in the back seat. That's some fucked up shit, man!

 

[LupusDei]

I accidentally read the title as "time (for) machine incest" and was like, wow, robot sisters?

 

[Hypoxia]

In Heinlein's "Time Enough for Love," the main character goes back in time and fucks his own mother (in a car) while he himself, as a child, is sleeping in the back seat. That's some fucked up shit, man!

In his "All You Zombies" the MC is his/her own mother, father, rapist, rescuer, etc via time machines. Vary masturbatory. "Paradoxes can be paradoctored."

I've written of a time explorer going after Eve and Cleopatra and Joan d'Arc, and encountering Lucy and the Whore of Babylon and Catherine de Medici. Oops. Maybe he'll go after his mom, grandma, and many previous mothers next. Then he can sing, "I'm My Own Grandpa." Unless he fucks up again and engenders the Kennedy dynasty.

 

[ElliottEden]

In Heinlein's "Time Enough for Love," the main character goes back in time and fucks his own mother (in a car) while he himself, as a child, is sleeping in the back seat. That's some fucked up shit, man!

Yeah, in fact it was the morning after I wrote my initial post that I recalled the same line. If you get to one of RAH's last novels LL 'saves' his mom and grandpa, brings them into his then current time line. Oh and of course ties in just about all the threads of his later writings, from Moon is a Harsh Mistress forward.

 

[ElliottEden]

I accidentally read the title as "time (for) machine incest" and was like, wow, robot sisters?

For as long as there has been some sort of electrical circuit:

https://eait.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Female-Female-VGA-Gender-Bender.jpg

With modular design robot sister could be robro in presto chango no time at all.

 

[ShagTimes]

I'm reminded of the film Back To The Future where Marty goes back in time and meets his mother when she was younger, and she, of course not knowing he's her future son, has the hots for him.

 

[jaF0]

^^ Yeah and let's say he knocked her up only to find out in present day DNA tests that he's his own father.

 

[ShagTimes]

^^ Yeah and let's say he knocked her up only to find out in present day DNA tests that he's his own father.

That makes my brain hurt!

 

[Hypoxia]

^^ Yeah and let's say he knocked her up only to find out in present day DNA tests that he's his own father.

Further testing reveals he's also his own grandfather, great-grandfather, and great-great. Lil' Marty sure got around with that time machine gizmo, tracing his background.

 

[lustatopia]

In Heinlein's "Time Enough for Love," the main character goes back in time and fucks his own mother (in a car) while he himself, as a child, is sleeping in the back seat. That's some fucked up shit, man!

The fact is that if you were to go back in time and you did just about anything with people directly in your family's lineage you would likely be changing yourself, perhaps in dramatic ways.

I don't mean doing anything major either, such as having sex with your own grandmother as a young woman. (The famous example usually cited is murdering your grandfather.) Simply meeting your grandmother for a few minutes would alter her life trajectory in ways that would risk being greatly amplified through time, thus rendering you nonexistent or at least different enough so that you would never have time traveled in the first place.

For instance, what if even a short conversation with your grandmother in 1957 delayed her trip to the drugstore soda fountain so that she bumps into a young man who flirts with her and this causes her to turn down your future grandfather's invitation to go to a dance the next week in hope the other young man will ask her instead? You're fucked. You instantly disappear, but then because you instantly disappear, then you never existed in the first place to travel back in time to talk to grandmother and your grandmother's real time line is restored. She goes to the dance with grandfather. So you instantly reappear time-traveling, talk to your grandmother again, which causes you to instantly disappear again.... You are trapped in an infinite loop, flashing on and off like a florescent light bulb blinking on and off a billion times a second. There are massive implications for the nature of reality in that little thought experiment, which I won't go into here...

The point is: if you did something in the past while time traveling that altered events so that you were never conceived then you wouldn't be around to time travel into the past to alter events so that you were never conceived in the first place. Ipso facto, nobody can ever travel back in time and change history in a way that changes themselves so that they don't travel back in time. Get it?

Time travel is impossible, because it is a logical fallacy made possible only by the fact that we perceive time as a linear, chronological series of events, which might well be a dimension-based illusion for a variety of reasons I won't go into here...

A more plausible, if less sexy, form of time travel might be possible. For example, we can already receive information from distant objects in the universe that are detailed images from the past. it's just conceivable that some how a machine could be built that would receive, a bit like a television or holographic receiver, images reflected from the past and/or future. But like a television you couldn't interact directly with the content thus gathered...Or perhaps you could some how...if you were willing to risk changing the present, but then you wouldn't be around to -or at least interested in- time traveling in the first place. That's the insurmountable paradox of all time travel fantasies.

 

[Hypoxia]

Ways to handle time travel:

* A back-traveler can't *change* history but can *cause* it if no other cause is known. Thus, fucking young grandma means young grandma got fucked.

* A little-known physics hypothesis: every particle contains 'header' metadata describing its space-time location. The proper force field can change that header data, re-locating stuff to wherever / whenever we want.

* Other time travel is impossible because people fuck stuff up, and a curious person would travel back to watch the big bang, but they would fuck it up and reality would collapse. Existence disproves time travel.

* Of course IFF time travel were possible, AND history can be changed, THEN we would split off more parallel universes. We can never go home again.

But anything can happen in LIT fantasyland. Some is even real.

 

[ShagTimes]

The fact is that if you were to go back in time and you did just about anything with people directly in your family's lineage you would likely be changing yourself, perhaps in dramatic ways.

I don't mean doing anything major either, such as having sex with your own grandmother as a young woman. (The famous example usually cited is murdering your grandfather.) Simply meeting your grandmother for a few minutes would alter her life trajectory in ways that would risk being greatly amplified through time, thus rendering you nonexistent or at least different enough so that you would never have time traveled in the first place.

For instance, what if even a short conversation with your grandmother in 1957 delayed her trip to the drugstore soda fountain so that she bumps into a young man who flirts with her and this causes her to turn down your future grandfather's invitation to go to a dance the next week in hope the other young man will ask her instead? You're fucked. You instantly disappear, but then because you instantly disappear, then you never existed in the first place to travel back in time to talk to grandmother and your grandmother's real time line is restored. She goes to the dance with grandfather. So you instantly reappear time-traveling, talk to your grandmother again, which causes you to instantly disappear again.... You are trapped in an infinite loop, flashing on and off like a florescent light bulb blinking on and off a billion times a second. There are massive implications for the nature of reality in that little thought experiment, which I won't go into here...

The point is: if you did something in the past while time traveling that altered events so that you were never conceived then you wouldn't be around to time travel into the past to alter events so that you were never conceived in the first place. Ipso facto, nobody can ever travel back in time and change history in a way that changes themselves so that they don't travel back in time. Get it?

Time travel is impossible, because it is a logical fallacy made possible only by the fact that we perceive time as a linear, chronological series of events, which might well be a dimension-based illusion for a variety of reasons I won't go into here...

A more plausible, if less sexy, form of time travel might be possible. For example, we can already receive information from distant objects in the universe that are detailed images from the past. it's just conceivable that some how a machine could be built that would receive, a bit like a television or holographic receiver, images reflected from the past and/or future. But like a television you couldn't interact directly with the content thus gathered...Or perhaps you could some how...if you were willing to risk changing the present, but then you wouldn't be around to -or at least interested in- time traveling in the first place. That's the insurmountable paradox of all time travel fantasies.

I enjoyed reading that; food for thought indeed.

 

[Carnevil9]

All this talk of going back in time and "changing the timeline" reminds me of an episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" where Q offers Picard a chance to go back to his youth and correct some mistakes he's made. Picard is afraid he will "change the timeline" and Q puts him down with this line:

"Please, spare me your egotistical musings on your pivotal role in history. Nothing you do here will cause the Federation to collapse or galaxies to explode. To be blunt, you're not that important."​

 

[LupusDei]

All this talk of going back in time and "changing the timeline" reminds me of an episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" where Q offers Picard a chance to go back to his youth and correct some mistakes he's made. Picard is afraid he will "change the timeline" and Q puts him down with this line:

"Please, spare me your egotistical musings on your pivotal role in history. Nothing you do here will cause the Federation to collapse or galaxies to explode. To be blunt, you're not that important."​

Indeed. It is one of the very few loopholes to slip trough, that the timeline will "heal" restore itself, and apart of some minuscule point fact changes the present will be generally the same with the slightly changed past. That the "big" history at large is a sum of so many events it's not so easy to derail.

But who can know? Butterfly effect, ripple effect... few words told to a random stranger may cause shift in trend... Nothing really changed, well few politicians have different names, but otherwise are rather close substitutes. But wait, since when public nudity had become a norm?

Or... whatever, actually.

 

[Hypoxia]

Think of time as an hourglass, sand dripping past a narrows, yada yada. NOW is the chokepoint. The PAST is everything that clogs that checkpoint, and the FUTURE is everything that passes through. IOW everything that has happened makes NOW, which filters any possible FUTURE. How to change the PAST and thus NOW? Move those sandy time-granules around. Pick the right ones. Poke them exactly where you want them to re-write history. Have fun. Don't fuck up.

 

[Com9licity]

Trying to figure out temporal mechanics will give you a headache any time!
Linear, non-linear, different timelines, alternate realities...

Ugh Paracetamol, please?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I'll make it easy... yes this post is three days older than dirt, who cares.

He goes back in time once, fucks her. She's a lousy fuck, he never returns but still winds up his own grandfather.

 

[jaF0]

Play it off 'Somewhere In Time' (Christopher Reeve, Jane Seymour) and he finds out it was his grandmother, who always knew, but could never say anything. It was her one great burden in life that she could never overcome. As a result, it was her only encounter and left her a troubled spinster.

 

[Erlikkhan]

A few years ago, the Back To The Future situation inspired some amateur video re-editing work in which Marty does not succeed in resisting his mom. But it seems the website went away.
I’ve been meaning to read the Heinlein novel.
Would I be willing to go back in time to try to have sex with my mother? Uh duh! With a name like OedipalLustGuru, what do you think?

For anyone who may be interested, I did a three part series of "Back to the Future" not long ago, with each story more or less conforming to the story lines in BTF I, II, III, except with lots of incest. Marty not only fucks his mother (many times), but also his grandmother (who he knocked up), sister, daughter, grand daughter, great-great grandmother, and a few others as well. It was fun writing it.

Maybe I'll try something similar with "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" as they go through history fucking every hot babe they can find. Ancient Rome during the time of Caligula should be a lot of fun!

Thought I had read most of Heinlein, but I missed the one where he fucks his own mother. Downloading it now to my kindle!

 

[EmpressV]

Connie Willis has written some excellent time-traveler novels: The Doomsday Book (which takes about 150 pages to catch fire, but once it does, watch out! It always makes me cry at the end), To Say Nothing of the Dog (a comedy), the WW2-based Blackout and All Clear (action dramas), plus several short stories.

Heinlein's To Sail Beyond the Sunset is one I reread periodically. Beautifully done. I don't know if he realized it might be his last, but he did a fine job of wrapping up the loose ends in that part of the "future history."

 

[Carnevil9]

Am I the only one who sees the ironic amusement in a thread about time travel resurrecting itself a year later?

 

[HectorBidon]

^^ Yeah and let's say he knocked her up only to find out in present day DNA tests that he's his own father.

Guy was orphaned as a young child. The only memory he has of his mother is of her giving him an amulet before she died. "Your grandfather gave this to me," she told him. "If things get really bad, you can use this to make things better." His life is a hard one, and by the time he reaches his early twenties it has gotten really bad. In despair, he clasps the amulet and says a prayer.

When he next awakes he finds he has traveled back in time. His situation is no better than it was, but he feels a new sense of freedom to make something of himself. He gets a job and manages to do fairly well. He meets a shy, secretive girl to whom he is instantly drawn. They marry, at the courthouse since neither of them has family. They are blissfully happy together. She gives birth to twins: a boy and a girl. But the economy turns bad and they find themselves homeless, living on the street. The girl gets sick, and the guy panhandles, sometimes taking one of the children with him. One day he is with the daughter in a distant part of town when he is hit by a car. Knowing he is dying, he gives the her amulet. "Your grandmother gave this to me. If things get really bad, you can use this to make things better." He dies, and the police don't try that hard to identify him. The girl is placed with Protective Services. She is too little to make them understand that she has a mother and a brother.

The girl has a hard life, growing up in foster homes. Finally out on her own, things are so bad for her that she takes out the amulet and says a prayer. She wakes up to find that she has traveled back in time. She is used to a hard scrabble existence and manages to survive. She meets a man and falls in love with him. They marry and are blissfully happy. She gives birth to twins, a boy and a girl. But they fall on hard times and end up living on the street. She gets sick. Her husband goes off one day to panhandle, taking the daughter with him. They never return, and she does not have enough resources to find out what happened to them. Her health deteriorates, and her last act before giving her son up to the social workers is to give him the amulet. "Your grandfather gave this to me," she says. "If things get really bad, you can use this to make things better."

The guy is not only his own father, but also his own maternal grandfather. The girl is his mother, twin sister, and daughter. The two of them have no genetic ancestors except each other. Where did the amulet come from? Where is it now?

 

[Com9licity]

Guy was orphaned as a young child. The only memory he has of his mother is of her giving him an amulet before she died. "Your grandfather gave this to me," she told him. "If things get really bad, you can use this to make things better." His life is a hard one, and by the time he reaches his early twenties it has gotten really bad. In despair, he clasps the amulet and says a prayer.

When he next awakes he finds he has traveled back in time. His situation is no better than it was, but he feels a new sense of freedom to make something of himself. He gets a job and manages to do fairly well. He meets a shy, secretive girl to whom he is instantly drawn. They marry, at the courthouse since neither of them has family. They are blissfully happy together. She gives birth to twins: a boy and a girl. But the economy turns bad and they find themselves homeless, living on the street. The girl gets sick, and the guy panhandles, sometimes taking one of the children with him. One day he is with the daughter in a distant part of town when he is hit by a car. Knowing he is dying, he gives the her amulet. "Your grandmother gave this to me. If things get really bad, you can use this to make things better." He dies, and the police don't try that hard to identify him. The girl is placed with Protective Services. She is too little to make them understand that she has a mother and a brother.

The girl has a hard life, growing up in foster homes. Finally out on her own, things are so bad for her that she takes out the amulet and says a prayer. She wakes up to find that she has traveled back in time. She is used to a hard scrabble existence and manages to survive. She meets a man and falls in love with him. They marry and are blissfully happy. She gives birth to twins, a boy and a girl. But they fall on hard times and end up living on the street. She gets sick. Her husband goes off one day to panhandle, taking the daughter with him. They never return, and she does not have enough resources to find out what happened to them. Her health deteriorates, and her last act before giving her son up to the social workers is to give him the amulet. "Your grandfather gave this to me," she says. "If things get really bad, you can use this to make things better."

The guy is not only his own father, but also his own maternal grandfather. The girl is his mother, twin sister, and daughter. The two of them have no genetic ancestors except each other. Where did the amulet come from? Where is it now?

I loved that. Nice one!

 

[ShagTimes]

Nothing to do with incest, but what about a woman "Quantum Leaping" into the body/life of Adolf Hitlers mother the night Adolf was conceived. When she and Adolf's dad get down to it she lets him have some anal action that night, and voila! Adolf never gets conceived.