Climate continues to change.

[OldJourno]

More proof that climate is changing. Thanks.

And it's proof the change is for the better.

 

[gunthernehmen]

i think he fails to understand that, while some areas will benefit from more moisture in the air and warmer climes, the rise of sea-levels will mean a greater loss of currently habitable land... and that'll mean mass migration to those areas still above the waters. sucks if they take a leaf out of t's books and decide they need a wall to keep out those pesky 'muricans.

of course, it also means a lot more, like more extreme weather events of a destructive nature, the probable loss of the gulf stream system and all that entails. things that'd happen anyway, eventually, but why rush into it when some brakes can be applied?

What brakes do you imagine could be applied, without destroying our civilization?

AOC's plan to starve the masses would have worked, but of course, billions of people would have died (the Green New Deal).

 

[phrodeau]

And it's proof the change is for the better.

What brakes do you imagine could be applied, without destroying our civilization?

AOC's plan to starve the masses would have worked, but of course, billions of people would have died (the Green New Deal).

Listen to you two, claiming a catastrophic change of the world’s climate is beneficial, and any steps to mitigate it will lead to collapse of civilization, mass starvation and death.

So where’s your proposal to force more CO2 into the air in the name of prosperity?

 

[thør]

So where’s your proposal to force more CO2 into the air in the name of prosperity?

Breathe

 

[Que]

Listen to you two, claiming a catastrophic change of the world’s climate is beneficial, and any steps to mitigate it will lead to collapse of civilization, mass starvation and death.

So where’s your proposal to force more CO2 into the air in the name of prosperity?

Why do you hate impoverished people and disregard their energy needs to survive and possibly climb out of poverty?

Why are you not championing nuclear power, the only viable way to quickly reduce net carbon output from power generation?

Why is it that you're not even pretending to reduce your own carbon footprint by purchasing solar panels and a refurbished Prius?

Is virtue signaling the only thing that you do for the planet or their things that you actually personally do to improve life for others?

 

[gunthernehmen]

Listen to you two, claiming a catastrophic change of the world’s climate is beneficial, and any steps to mitigate it will lead to collapse of civilization, mass starvation and death.

So where’s your proposal to force more CO2 into the air in the name of prosperity?

I never said it was beneficial, just inevitable. We're all dead - it's just a matter of a few decades, more likely centuries, if we're lucky, maybe a few millennium (that's 1,000 years, not a bunch of kids).

If humans did cause this to happen, then the answer is to stop fucking with the environment.

Only if we do, most of us die because it is not possible to maintain a technological civilization using hand tools and horses. So we won't stop.

So let's instead start fucking with the environment even MORE. Maybe we can find a way to sequester that pesky carbon in deep bore wells or something. A little terraforming never hurt anybody.

Phro, do you have any idea how many horror movies and sci fi thrillers are based on terraforming gone wrong?

The situation (regardless of the CAUSE) is bad enough. Deal with it.

If some cities are swamped (which might or might not happen - probably not IMO but hey who knows) then they get swamped. They'll either go dutch or they'll go age of aquarius and the survivors will move.

Crops will fail. So eat less, eat different, import food or die. Those actually are all the options.

Stop trying to fix it. You're going to make it worse. If we caused it, you'll screw it up more. If we didn't cause it, you'll screw it up more.

 

[Que]

How is what Rob was wearing relevant at all? Or are you suggesting Rob was worn?

Thanks for catching the LukCzech fail. It is critically important that these posts be checked for any and all errors. He tends to get lax when he us stoned, but is much more on point during what he calls "the tweekend."

 

[Que]

I never said it was beneficial, just inevitable. We're all dead - it's just a matter of a few decades, more likely centuries, if we're lucky, maybe a few millennium (that's 1,000 years, not a bunch of kids).

If humans did cause this to happen, then the answer is to stop fucking with the environment.

Only if we do, most of us die because it is not possible to maintain a technological civilization using hand tools and horses. So we won't stop.

So let's instead start fucking with the environment even MORE. Maybe we can find a way to sequester that pesky carbon in deep bore wells or something. A little terraforming never hurt anybody.

Phro, do you have any idea how many horror movies and sci fi thrillers are based on terraforming gone wrong?

The situation (regardless of the CAUSE) is bad enough. Deal with it.

If some cities are swamped (which might or might not happen - probably not IMO but hey who knows) then they get swamped. They'll either go dutch or they'll go age of aquarius and the survivors will move.

Crops will fail. So eat less, eat different, import food or die. Those actually are all the options.

Stop trying to fix it. You're going to make it worse. If we caused it, you'll screw it up more. If we didn't cause it, you'll screw it up more.

Or just have everyone stop fucking. Of course that would fuck with the whole social security system.

Yes in the long run humankind is inevitably going to be impacted by the environment but we have no idea until it happens what that's going to look like. When we enter the next ice age (if human civilization survives that long) we will be looking for tips on how to cause global warming.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Or just have everyone stop fucking. Of course that would fuck with the whole social security system.

Yes in the long run humankind is inevitably going to be impacted by the environment but we have no idea until it happens what that's going to look like. When we enter the next ice age (if human civilization survives that long) we will be looking for tips on how to cause global warming.

I heard we're getting an ice age in just a couple of years. Something about a troupe of wandering kids. They call themselves the Meandering Millennial's or something.

On a side note I will NOT get on board with any approach that involves the stopping of fucking.

 

[OldJourno]

And the glaciers in Glacier National Park are growing again.

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!

 

[thør]

And the glaciers in Glacier National Park are growing again.

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!

Death is inevitable.

Have there been recent mass balances reported since 2015?

 

[trysail]

You've confused a controlled benchtop, static, closed system with an immensely complex, open, multivariate, dynamic system.


As a result of that fundamental error, you've fooled yourself (which is precisely what Feynman warned you about).


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[von_Bismarck]

You've confused a controlled benchtop, static, closed system with an immensely complex, open, multivariate, dynamic system.


As a result of that fundamental error, you've fooled yourself (which is precisely what Feynman warned you about).


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That's great. Now C&P your little insight several more times around the GB.

 

[phrodeau]

And the glaciers in Glacier National Park are growing again.

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!

Do we take your word for it?

 

[thør]

Bloomberg writes as if this is a problem.

It's pretty common practice to keep a field pressurized. No need for the nasty pump jacks.

 

[trysail]

Bloomberg writes as if this is a problem.

It's pretty common practice to keep a field pressurized. No need for the nasty pump jacks.

Mikey Bloomberg has imbibed a toxic amount of the climate Kool-Aid. His early career as a high-pressure bond salesman on Wall Street at the notoriously corrupt Solomon Brothers does not inspire much confidence in his integrity, his knowledge, his analytical abilities or his judgement. Regardless of facts, Mikey is on a crusade.


He has, of course, ordered his flying monkeys to proselytize the climate gospel (according to Mikey Bloomberg). I don't believe a word out of them; they're completely bent.




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[phrodeau]

Bloomberg writes as if this is a problem.

It's pretty common practice to keep a field pressurized. No need for the nasty pump jacks.

From the article:

If widely adopted, if it doesn’t lead to challenges and the formations behave as we expect...

Said the expert, about a state with over a hundred earthquakes a year.

 

[thør]

From the article:
Said the expert, about a state with over a hundred earthquakes a year.

A hundred a year? Peanuts.

Putting the gas back in the ground keeps things more to a status quo. Flaring is bullshit and wasteful.

 

[trysail]

"...Of top 10 global carbon emitters, not a single one is hitting its climate goals as outlined under the Paris Agreement, per data from the Climate Action Tracker..."

source
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[thør]

https://www.arctictoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2019-06-19T080954Z_665018743_RC18FD4E8B80_RTRMADP_3_GREENLAND-WATER-DOGS.jpg

 

[gunthernehmen]

https://www.arctictoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2019-06-19T080954Z_665018743_RC18FD4E8B80_RTRMADP_3_GREENLAND-WATER-DOGS.jpg

"Mush, Jesus! Mush!"

 

[thør]

Earthworms.

 

[butters]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/18/uk/boaty-mcboatface-first-mission-scli-gbr-scn-intl/

Its findings, published in the journal PNAS on Monday, revealed how increasingly strong winds in the region are causing turbulence deep within the sea, and as a result mixing warm water from middle levels with colder water in the abyss.

 

[Que]

It's that hidden global warming that is really causing me to sweat it.

 

[gunthernehmen]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/18/uk/boaty-mcboatface-first-mission-scli-gbr-scn-intl/

The article says the winds are causing the warm water and the wind is caused by thinning ozone layer but we destroyed the ozone layer back in the 1970s with hair spray. I remember because I had to switch to pomade.