Who Do You Blame (The MOST) for 2016?

Who is responsible for Trump’s Victory?


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While listening to one of my podcasts this morning, the topic came up as to who is to “blame” for Trump’s victory in 2016 - a look at those who stayed home. I have my own thoughts but I know mine. What are yours?

P.S. - we are all losers here so vote with abandon.
 
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I'd never before faced my culpability in this. Shitsticks! All I can do is offer my most humble apologies for failing to secure world domination. In my defense, the body building toyboy with the massive cock makes it very hard to concentrate on persuing global power.
 
I'd never before faced my culpability in this. Shitsticks! All I can do is offer my most humble apologies for failing to secure world domination. In my defense, the body building toyboy with the massive cock makes it very hard to concentrate on persuing global power.

Here's wishing you a happy wall expansion.;)
 
It's a question with multiple answers. But given the closeness of the result, and what we saw from the polling in the last two weeks, I don't think there's any doubt that Comey's letter, and the parallel silence of the entire FBI establishment with regard to all the shenanigans the Trump campaign was up to, was the deciding factor.
 
The American electoral system, which doesn't trust the citizens enough to elect their president on their own.
 
OK I don't usually get into this but the men I've talked to about Trump come across as impotent and lacking in control over their life and their bladder.
 
OK I don't usually get into this but the men I've talked to about Trump come across as impotent and lacking in control over their life and their bladder.

I think I love you. :rose::rose::rose::rose: :D
You sang that in David Cassidy's voice....admit it!
 
Mrs. Clinton was just so un-appealing as a candidate. She appeared entitled. Un-trustworthy. More of the same.
But to some extent, I think this was a vote against the Obama legacy.
Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama. 1A and 1B.
 
OK I don't usually get into this but the men I've talked to about Trump come across as impotent and lacking in control over their life and their bladder.

Probably because at your age you're interacting with your elderly peers. There are plenty of Trump supporters younger than you who have no such social or physical infirmity. :cool:
 
Probably because at your age you're interacting with your elderly peers. There are plenty of Trump supporters younger than you who have no such social or physical infirmity. :cool:

You're at least 74 years old, Gunny Shitpants, you've got very little room to talk.
 
You're at least 74 years old, Gunny Shitpants, you've got very little room to talk.

Fuck off. I'm not even 50. My biggest worry is, is Orange County California's female population large enough to accept my store of wild oats without drowning. Your problems of impotency and lack of stamina aren't yet my problems, envious dipshit.:cool:
 
Fuck off. I'm not even 50. My biggest worry is, is Orange County California's female population large enough to accept my store of wild oats without drowning. Your problems of impotency and lack of stamina aren't yet my problems, envious dipshit.:cool:

That's an outright lie, you have told us about your war hero adventures in the 'Nam in the early 70s.
 
So Trump rewards hard work and Clinton gives away free stuff

Looking at zumis race and gender poster
 
Fuck off. I'm not even 50. My biggest worry is, is Orange County California's female population large enough to accept my store of wild oats without drowning. Your problems of impotency and lack of stamina aren't yet my problems, envious dipshit.:cool:

Maaaaan, lissen...the only wild oats they're drowning in is in a cylindrical cardboard container with a Quaker illustration on it. :D

You spend nearly all of your available retirement free time on here, Vette. Yelling at the clouds daily over your eternal sexual frustration war with Democrats and liberals. Any purported single guy under age 50 (or over it) spending their whole day and night online here bitching politics ain't fucking shit but his hand looking at the bolt-ons in Wat's thread.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpj6grFIe1qcaomb.gif

So Trump rewards hard work and Clinton gives away free stuff

Looking at zumis race and gender poster

Nah. Just a bunch of white assholes who wanted to punish the browns and marginalized for getting uppity with wanting to level the playing field...

https://i.ibb.co/88KD3Dm/Dc-Bv-g-FXk-AE8lfp.jpg

...but they got massively fucked over in the process.

https://i.ibb.co/6Wp1L4k/IMG-3059.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/cyYrdYC/IMG-2678.jpg

hope y'all are enjoying that hot n' crusty MAGA shit pie, bitches! :D
 
It is not a matter of whether I find her likable, (are there people that do? :confused:) it is a matter of her running a poor campaign.

1) She lacked an appealing message because the third term of an Obama administration with the continuation of policies that polled far lower than Obama's numbers. People liked, respected, and valued his historic appeal. They did not like us policy. On economic issues he would have been a one term president. Voters did not want 12 years of his green energy economy, which is not an actual thing.

2) She strategized poorly and lacked stamina towards the end with lots of missed opportunities.

3) She energized the base, partly because she is a polarizing figure that those that did not like Bill's policies were aware that she was less of a centrist. Her tine and words describing not her opponent, but her opponent's supporters drove turnout. It was foolish.

This is not just my observations, this is the conclusion of a multimillion dollar post-mortem by the DNC at the insistence of their biggest donors.

You cannot blame non-voters because there was a lot of apathy among the independents for either candidate. It is each candidates job to motivate. No way to know how voters who did not vote would break. On economic numbers that probably would have broke Trump. For the same reason, voter enthusism breaks Trump thus time too

You cannot blame third party candidate because those votes do not automatically accrue to the most likely alternate candidate. That choice is not binary, even of it is pretty clear they lean this way or that. Their other choice is to stay home. Bernie Bros did, and may again. It may be 5hst some of those voters would have voted HRC if they had not been assured she had it in the bad. If you want to try to weight that, the blame rests on failure of a accuracy in polling. That could be the result of the media bandwagon making voters want to side with the "winner" when asked, but made a different choice. The other reason could be the vilification 9f Trump supporters. Lots of shy support. If you are reluctant to vote Trump, cannot countenance HRC, maybe you were soft in your responses, got counted as not a likely voter. Lots of variables, but third parties are an a tual thing an one needs to be strategeristic <bush> about that. Ross Perot likely gave us Clintin, but for all the above, that's a SWAG.

HRC, despite her dozens of excuses that do not involve HRC, fully owns this fail. -she lost to a buffoonish, polarizing, huckster.
 
I didn’t vote on this poll.

Why?

I don’t blame anyone for the 2016 election. To “assign” blame would suggest the person I voted for lost the election. The country is deeply divided and the voters spoke up in 2016. There’s a bittterness going on over the Electoral College vote vrs popular vote. Some people can’t grasp the fact that it is possible for a candidate to lose the popular vote and still win the presidency. How often has this scenario actually happened? Maybe a few times in the recent memory, certainly not enough to say the voting system is “broken”. The framers of the constitution wrote it a certain way for a reason.
🐾Kant

Edit: you probably could have given the option for the FBI and drama surrounding Hillary’s emails going into the election as an option - just saying.
 
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