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[icanhelp1]

And you think that was worth the trillions of dollars we spent and the lives lost?

You fucking moron.

Sadam invaded a country, had he gone unchecked would have stolen the largest oil reserves in the world at the time, increasing his financial capability to buy or develop weapons of mass destruction and holding the world hostage. Apparently you don't study history. We looked the other way when Germany invaded other countries and look where that got us.

And why the name calling? Are you that much more knowledgeable than everybody else?

 

[Kantarii]

And you think that was worth the trillions of dollars we spent and the lives lost?

You fucking moron.

Look in the mirror.

I think trillions of dollars put into a Green New Deal isn’t worth jack shit.

 

[Kantarii]

Our intelligence has a pretty good handle on Chinese nuclear deployment, nothing mounted for a first strike. The Russians are just the opposite. The Chinese are a communist regime no doubt, their record for human rights is atrocious no doubt but history proves they are not warmongers. They believe they could survive a first strike and win. The soviets are the real threat, Putin is the threat ( little man syndrome ). Our conventional forces are second to none but are economy is our greatest weapon.

You fail to realize China serves only the interests of China and their greatest weakness is the fact they fear social unrest. I’m not one to play “what if” games, but there’s a reason China has suppressed the Tennemen Square incident.

 

[zipman]

Sadam invaded a country, had he gone unchecked would have stolen the largest oil reserves in the world at the time, increasing his financial capability to buy or develop weapons of mass destruction and holding the world hostage. Apparently you don't study history. We looked the other way when Germany invaded other countries and look where that got us.

And why the name calling? Are you that much more knowledgeable than everybody else?

I have never, ever seen a single person argue that the US going back into Iraq during the Bush administration was a smart decision.

It was a huge mistake and we are still paying the price for it.

If you think it was smart you are in very limited company.

 

[cowslinger64]

Look in the mirror.

I think trillions of dollars put into a Green New Deal isn’t worth jack shit.

Will 5000 troops die for it?

 

[zipman]

Look in the mirror.

I think trillions of dollars put into a Green New Deal isn’t worth jack shit.

Who said anything about the Green New Deal?

LOL, way to move the goal posts.

And China among others are embracing new technology like solar power while the idiot republicans in this country want to move back to coal which is beyond stupid.

Is there actually a subject you know something about? If so, you might want to try and discuss that. Just sayin'

 

[Kantarii]

You're a total ignoramus if you think that worked out well for the US. Around 5000 American troops paid the price..along with countless injuries and civilian casualties.

And the trillions it cost as well.

Tell this BS to the families that lost lives in the Twin Towers.

But, if it were up to you, we’d sit on our thumbs and do nothing.

Then, by all means, if you feel a need to blame someone, blame Obama. He’s the one that ordered the strike on Osama’s compound.

 

[Kantarii]

Who said anything about the Green New Deal?

LOL, way to move the goal posts.

And China among others are embracing new technology like solar power while the idiot republicans in this country want to move back to coal which is beyond stupid.

Is there actually a subject you know something about? If so, you might want to try and discuss that. Just sayin'

I was thinking the same thing with you trying to talk about the subject of the thread.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Tell this BS to the families that lost lives in the Twin Towers.

But, if it were up to you, we’d sit on our thumbs and do nothing.

Then, by all means, if you feel a need to blame someone, blame Obama. He’s the one that ordered the strike on Obama’s compound.

... the fuck?

 

[icanhelp1]

You fail to realize China serves only the interests of China and their greatest weakness is the fact they fear social unrest. I’m not one to play “what if” games, but there’s a reason China has suppressed the Tennemen Square incident.

I'm not failing to realize China's interest. China is to different countries, the hardliners and the moderates and right now the hardliners are in charge. Neither makes a difference in a conventional war. We had a similar situation with Vietnam and our conventional forces got bogged down.

 

[zipman]

Tell this BS to the families that lost lives in the Twin Towers.

But, if it were up to you, we’d sit on our thumbs and do nothing.

Then, by all means, if you feel a need to blame someone, blame Obama. He’s the one that ordered the strike on Obama’s compound.

The Bush invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 you dumbass.

And US troops were already in Afghanistan when Obama ordered the raid on Bin Laden, but feel free to blame him for getting the job done.

For fucks sake, how stupid are you?

 

[zipman]

... the fuck?

I know, right?

It's actually kind of funny how stupid he is.

 

[Rightguide]

Our intelligence has a pretty good handle on Chinese nuclear deployment, nothing mounted for a first strike. The Russians are just the opposite. The Chinese are a communist regime no doubt, their record for human rights is atrocious no doubt but history proves they are not warmongers. They believe they could survive a first strike and win. The soviets are the real threat, Putin is the threat ( little man syndrome ). Our conventional forces are second to none but are economy is our greatest weapon.

The Chinese communists are war mongers. it's just that many western commentators don't understand, and are fooled by, the fact that they fight 100 year wars. They do not believe they can survive a first strike, they do not believe we can either, that is why they plan the way they do. They lull us to sleep while they fortify the western Pacific, the South China Sea, to dominate the the natural geographical choke points that control entry into the Indian Ocean. It's why they strive to broaden their influence on our college campuses nationwide, so they can help create more naive people that fail to see their true intent. It's why they are building a naval base in Djibouti on the approaches to the Suez Canal. It's why they're sitting on both ends of the Panama Canal and are ensconced in South America. Google "Chinese string of pearls in the Indian Ocean," keeping in mind their long term strategy. They are war mongers, they are simply going to initiate war at the time of their choosing.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

if you feel a need to blame someone, blame Obama. He’s the one that ordered the strike on Obama’s compound.

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[icanhelp1]

I have never, ever seen a single person argue that the US going back into Iraq during the Bush administration was a smart decision.

It was a huge mistake and we are still paying the price for it.

If you think it was smart you are in very limited company.

The second chapter is debatable but not easy to quantify or qualify. The house and senate approved it. Failed intel is a good argument. Saddam Hussein gone is a plus for the whole world.

 

[Kantarii]

The Bush invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 you dumbass.

And US troops were already in Afghanistan when Obama ordered the raid on Bin Laden, but feel free to blame him for getting the job done.

For fucks sake, how stupid are you?

Only you brought up the Bush administration. You need to read my post again because you mixed and blended the comments to suit your needs.

 

[icanhelp1]

Who said anything about the Green New Deal?

LOL, way to move the goal posts.

And China among others are embracing new technology like solar power while the idiot republicans in this country want to move back to coal which is beyond stupid.

Is there actually a subject you know something about? If so, you might want to try and discuss that. Just sayin'

That's inaccurate!!

 

[von_Bismarck]

I know, right?

It's actually kind of funny how stupid he is.

My first reaction was like, "2002 called, they want their war propaganda back."

 

[Kantarii]

That's inaccurate!!

Might need to tell him that again. It be a shame he goes the rest of his life not knowing the truth.

 

[RobDownSouth]

That's inaccurate!!

^^^THIS is what passes for a deplorable refudiation nowadays.^^^
No facts, no alternate opinion, just screech "Wrong!" or "That's Inaccurate" or "Lies!" or "Fake News!" or "That's Racist" (the latter a favorite of BotanyBoy).

They lack the courage and/or intellectual capacity to come up with an intelligent response.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Might need to tel him that again. It be a shame he goes the rest of his life not knowing the truth.

When deplorables are reduced to yammering about THE TRUTH, you've won.
*nods*

 

[zipman]

Only you brought up the Bush administration. You need to read my post again because you mixed and blended the comments to suit your needs.

I brought up the Bush administration going back to war in Iraq because you brought up Saddam.

Really? Let’s ask Saddam and Osama bin Laden. Wait, we can’t.

Do you want to continue to make yourself look like a completely ignorant fool or do you want to actually try and say something intelligent?

Or maybe you want to try and switch the conversation to the Green New Deal again?

Fucking dumbass

 

[zipman]

The second chapter is debatable but not easy to quantify or qualify. The house and senate approved it. Failed intel is a good argument. Saddam Hussein gone is a plus for the whole world.

Was Saddam being gone worth the cost of the war and the emergence of ISIS?

I would say no.

 

[zipman]

That's inaccurate!!

Which part?

That he moved the goal posts? He did.

That China is embracing solar power? They are.

That Republicans are trying to bring back coal? They are.

 

[zipman]

My first reaction was like, "2002 called, they want their war propaganda back."

LOL. It's almost sad.