Abortion

You're not sad.
You're happy at
shutting down
discusion...

And everyone who disagrees with you is a hateful control freak.

Dude, I'm sitting somewhere about a grillion kms from you, and we're both on the internet ... how on earth can either of us 'shut down discussion'? Discuss all you want.

But you are correct in that if you suggest you have the right to tell a woman (and sometimes also a man) making an already incredibly difficult decision that will affect the rest of their life what they 'should' do, I will indeed call you a control freak.
 
You better illustrate my point on the topic better than I ever could...


I'll give you that.
 
Dude, I'm sitting somewhere about a grillion kms from you, and we're both on the internet ... how on earth can either of us 'shut down discussion'? Discuss all you want.

But you are correct in that if you suggest you have the right to tell a woman (and sometimes also a man) making an already incredibly difficult decision that will affect the rest of their life what they 'should' do, I will indeed call you a control freak.

Why is it that the exact same "my body, my choice" zealots presume to tell others whether they must give their labor at the point of a gun to support social programs they favor, or deride the intake of animal protein, what and how you grow food, or burning of fossil fuels, or conduct or not conduct business with whom they wish, or vaccinate their own offspring how they wish? The say after a child is born to people who actually care about children, you want the state involved in every aspect of their health, welfare, and indoctrination.

Progressives are only "progressive" when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, and sometimes drugs.

You are "enjoying" a fairly recent trend to even allow something that was historically understood to be morally and legally repugnant. You fans of abortion don't understand the basics of what is and is not allowed, and why. Your argument above is that there is no compelling public interest on whether someone does or does not kill another human being in the development process. That's completely false. It has been held that there is a compelling public interest in restricting abortion it just depends on who's doing the restricting why and at what stage. Some of you abortion fans quite literally have no problem killing an actual child on their natal day.

Because of this level of rabid enthusiasm you could very well see complete restriction in the future. Allowing such things as early abortions and abortion pills was always a slippery slope. When the most ghoulish of your supporters have now insisted that they have a "right" to do as they wish up to and even after birth, you waken the string majority that can see what the natural progression of the abortion industry profit motives and the cull the herd mentality of the least compassionate among us.

Couching this like you have the moral high ground is silly, but most of the positions you stake out are pretty indefensible. You just like to argue, and you seem to feel your kink for being argumentative is best wrapped in virtue signaling for the "correct" side of whatever issue
 
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Why is it that the exact same "my body, my choice" zealots presume to tell others whether they must give their labor at the point of a gun to support social programs they favor, or deride the intake of animal protein, what and how you grow food, or burning of fossil fuels, or conduct or not conduct business with whom they wish, or vaccinate their own offspring how they wish? The say after a child is born to people who actually care about children, you want the state involved in every aspect of their health, welfare, and indoctrination.

Progressives are only "progressive" when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, and sometimes drugs.

You are "enjoying" a fairly recent trend to even allow something that was historically understood to be morally and legally repugnant. You fans of abortion don't understand the basics of what is and is not allowed, and why. Your argument above is that there is no compelling public interest on whether someone does or does not kill another human being in the development process. That's completely false. It has been held that there is a compelling public interest in restricting abortion it just depends on who's doing the restricting why and at what stage. Some of you abortion fans quite literally have no problem killing an actual child on their natal day.

Because of this level of rabid enthusiasm you could very well see complete restriction in the future. Allowing such things as early abortions and abortion pills was always a slippery slope. When the most ghoulish of your supporters have now insisted that they have a "right" to do as they wish up to and even after birth, you waken the string majority that can see what the natural progression of the abortion industry profit motives and the cull the herd mentality of the least compassionate among us.

Couching this like you have the moral high ground is silly, but most of the positions you stake out are pretty indefensible. You just like to argue, and you seem to feel your kink for being argumentative is best wrapped in virtue signaling for the "correct" side of whatever issue

Re: the first bolded point - I don't recall ever saying any of those things. Admittedly, I think not vaccinating your child is both painfully stupid and socially irresponsible, but I'm actually actively opposed to measures to 'force' people to do so. (I'm also sitting here digesting a nice lump of venison, so no, I also don't tell people what they shouldn't eat animals.)

Re: the second bolded point - I think you'll find people have been seeking safe means to have abortions since Adam was a cowboy. The only constant in the whole mess is that blocking people's access to the safest methods possible has awful outcomes.

Re: the third bolded point - I'm yet to meet an 'abortion fan'. No one I've ever spoken to about the topic is a'fan' of abortions. Although the right-to-life movement ARE fans of over-emotive language and erroneously describing anyone/anything that counters their perspective, so I guess it's a concept that's in keeping with the overall rhetoric.
 
Re: the first bolded point - I don't recall ever saying any of those things. Admittedly, I think not vaccinating your child is both painfully stupid and socially irresponsible, but I'm actually actively opposed to measures to 'force' people to do so. (I'm also sitting here digesting a nice lump of venison, so no, I also don't tell people what they shouldn't eat animals.)

Re: the second bolded point - I think you'll find people have been seeking safe means to have abortions since Adam was a cowboy. The only constant in the whole mess is that blocking people's access to the safest methods possible has awful outcomes.

Re: the third bolded point - I'm yet to meet an 'abortion fan'. No one I've ever spoken to about the topic is a'fan' of abortions. Although the right-to-life movement ARE fans of over-emotive language and erroneously describing anyone/anything that counters their perspective, so I guess it's a concept that's in keeping with the overall rhetoric.

Yeah, they should "check themselves" on that "over-emotive" language.

Good thing that you fans of abortion keep it nice and civil while you describe the very same organisms that couples weep over losing in a miscarriage as a cluster of cells.

I generally for example myself try to avoid calling abortion murder because murder has specific both legal requirements and I think moral connotations but I don't think it's at all unreasonable for people to use that level of language for a practice as abhorrent as abortion is.

Describing the abhorrent practice of abortion as a choice is under emotive language.
 
I’m against abortion unless it is a result of rape, the child will be born deformed in some way, even the birth being fatal to either the mother or child.
Offering more of my feeling on topic will only aggravate sentiment on either side.
🐾Kant
 
I’m against abortion unless it is a result of rape, the child will be born deformed in some way, even the birth being fatal to either the mother or child.

Selective breeding. Which are fit to live. The Master Race ......
 
Kim will argue for days about a white male shooting up a mosque, stay silent when muslims blow up christian churches, all at the same time advocating abortion and pro choice, ie, womens rights. And ignore anyone who calls her out on it. It's pretty fucking obvious her degenerate agenda is she has basic female penis envy and a deep rooted hatred for white males. And even more hilarious that her control issues contradict her rope bunny fetish. Absolutely retarded logic.
 
Also note that when i posted a side by side picture of the Paris shooting and New Zealand one, Kim couldn't tell the difference. :rolleyes:
 
I’m against abortion unless it is a result of rape, the child will be born deformed in some way, even the birth being fatal to either the mother or child.
Offering more of my feeling on topic will only aggravate sentiment on either side.
🐾Kant

Man, you are just stupid dumb. Your thoughts and the way you deliver them are just, wow.. Sorry, I'm really not meaning to name call, but it's so unfortunate for you. I empathize.
 
Man, you are just stupid dumb. Your thoughts and the way you deliver them are just, wow.. Sorry, I'm really not meaning to name call, but it's so unfortunate for you. I empathize.


That's the 'It's not OK unless I say it's OK' philosophy.

To me, there are only two, maybe three people that should even know, let alone decide. The patient, the doctor and in some cases, maybe the partner.

Definitely never the Church or any activists. The Government only to the extent of mandating that medical safety guidelines be followed, the same as any other licensing and safety issue for any part of medicine.
 
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