Not really news. Another school shooting
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So then you agree with the gun totin' right wingers, good guys with guns IS in fact an effective solution to bad guys with guns.
Rob seems to think otherwise.....but I bet he calls guys with guns though when bad guys do bad things to him.
He runs and hides behind a rent-a-cop "embiggened" with a "steel penis extension" just because a woman (one of "those people" the color of his "one, black friend") asked him for spare change.
To be fair this wasn't purely because Mr. self-described," Alpha as FUCK!" is a chickenshit hypocrite, this was also an opportunity at fantasy fulfillment where he had hoped the minimally-trained man would let him stroke it.
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It's occurred to me that, being unfamiliar with the way UK governance works, you possibly misunderstood my post.I think you're a good person with a good heart who means well, Dolf, but I don't think that has anything to do with these crimes. There have been times when people had next to nothing and the crime rates weren't as bad as they are now. Simple societal morality was different then. That's the answer. The problem is, how do we get back to it, or do we?
The welfare budget is central government. Local government (which is what the link was about) pays mostly for schools, policing and what you would call child protective services, amongst other things. If you consider those three things, you can see how the link to violent kids would be likely.
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No one bothers to try to think outside the envelope.
More laws won't stop crime. Criminals don't obey laws. Laws exist as a way to prove that the "bad behavior" isn't desired by society. That's why the punishment for breaking the law is written into the law.
It's responsive, not preventative. Reactive, not proactive.
Hence, more reactive laws won't prevent another shooting.
The answer lies elsewhere. IMO, as long as society tolerates anti-social behavior, miscreants will continue to act out in ways which harm members of society. As long as society refuses to listen and intercede whenever a "societal wrong" is committed, then the "wronged" will continue to act in ways which harm society.
The answer lies in repairing the fabric of society to not tolerate the bad elements in their midst. It lies in educating the friends and family members of those who are in positions to act out negatively of the options they have. Make those options easier to obtain. And then enforce them rigidly.
The problem is that the "bad element" are the ones in control right now.
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Good luck trying to educate Joe Lunchbox to not leave his shootin' irons out where the kids could get them....he might need 'em on short notice to handle maraudin' bands of #ThosePeople tryin' to break into his castle.
And Karen Lunchbox needs her little girly .32 in the center console of her minivan "just in case". Granted, it's a perfect fit for the hand of her six year old son, who has always resented his bossy 9 year old sister, but that's a risk she's willing to take.
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You always take vette's side.
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You can't legally stop a bad element until they've done something bad. Lots of these shooters never do anything serious before going postal. Most teens who get into a bit of trouble don't turn into mass murderers.
How do you prevent?
And, yeah, some people are just born... not quite right. But most kids are just kids, and grow in response to their environment. It doesn't absolve them of any blame, but there must be reasons why they end up at that point.
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It won’t take long before liberal activists exploit the tragedy for political purposes on gun control.
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Fixed your post; thank me later.
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You couldn't fix a sandwich, dipshit.
It won’t take long before liberal activists exploit the tragedy for political purposes on gun control.
Many people, when they hear people talking like this assume that they're self-centered and callous.
That they don't mind hundreds of children being gunned down in the future, as long as their 'rights' to bear arms are respected.
I used to be one of them too, but in time I realized that it isn't about that.
Now I view it, in all honesty, as some distorted logic that I can't comprehend.
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Just copy and paste this into all your shitpists. It will save you time.
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here comes the name calling. What other great words you gonna throw at me I haven’t heard hundreds of times from people who have better communication skills?
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the question:
how will you americans STOP radicalised/disenfranchised/ostracised/emotionally &or mentally unwell/angry-off-the-charts/heartbroken teenagers getting their hands on guns and, (edit) more importantly, wanting to ?
kids have enough pressure at school just learning all they need to pass their exams; it's a betrayal of them by adult voters&lawmakers that they have to be afraid that they might face a shooter in their classrooms.
how will you americans STOP radicalised/disenfranchised/ostracised/emotionally &or mentally unwell/angry-off-the-charts/heartbroken teenagers getting their hands on guns and, (edit) more importantly, wanting to ?
kids have enough pressure at school just learning all they need to pass their exams; it's a betrayal of them by adult voters&lawmakers that they have to be afraid that they might face a shooter in their classrooms.
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Its pathetic that a day after this shooting, people were already trying politicize it. Fortunately, the kids realized that they were being used and wouldn't have it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...g-vigil-students-walk-out-protest/1150282001/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...g-vigil-students-walk-out-protest/1150282001/
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