Incels & alt-right already losing their minds over Captain Marvel

[Boxlicker101]

And the only black people in the movies way back then were probably in black face.

Captain America was a comic book hero and didn't get into movies until quite a bit later than 1941.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Sex is no longer taboo for this generation, hell it's EVERYWHERE, so a little skin doesn't really faze them as compared to fifty years ago, or in the 1930s during Boxlicker's time. It's not as tantalizing as in the past.

Fifty years ago, in the late 1960's, hardcore porn was readily available. And I was a baby in 1939.

 

[CandiCame]

Fifty years ago, in the late 1960's, hardcore porn was readily available. And I was a baby in 1939.

Holy shit! You're older than my grandparents! My granny was born in 1945.

Tell us a tale. I don't even care what it is. I just want to learn old-fashioned shit. This dude lived through the second world war! This dude watched the moon landing-

I'm not being facetious. I fucking love old people. I grew up with a gramps who told me old-timey stories. I read this shit out of Laura Ingles Wilder.

Did you watch the moon landing? You would have been a grown ass adult-

Holy shit you would remember the cold war.

Did you live in a shack with newspaper on the walls like Dolly Parton? Did you have to shit in an outhouse? Did you have running water? You won't believe how often my grandparents shit on me for growing up with running water- I apparently waste the shit out of water and don't appreciate it because they had to draw the shit out of a well and I'm a spoiled little bitch.

Did you have a fridge? A LOT of old people I know didn't have fridges and I don't know how y'all got by. I'll admit to that one. I would die. I would fucking die. I have no idea how to do meat storage without refrigeration.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Holy shit! You're older than my grandparents! My granny was born in 1945.

Tell us a tale. I don't even care what it is. I just want to learn old-fashioned shit. This dude lived through the second world war! This dude watched the moon landing-

I'm not being facetious. I fucking love old people. I grew up with a gramps who told me old-timey stories. I read this shit out of Laura Ingles Wilder.

Did you watch the moon landing? You would have been a grown ass adult-

Holy shit you would remember the cold war.

Did you live in a shack with newspaper on the walls like Dolly Parton? Did you have to shit in an outhouse? Did you have running water? You won't believe how often my grandparents shit on me for growing up with running water- I apparently waste the shit out of water and don't appreciate it because they had to draw the shit out of a well and I'm a spoiled little bitch.

Did you have a fridge? A LOT of old people I know didn't have fridges and I don't know how y'all got by. I'll admit to that one. I would die. I would fucking die. I have no idea how to do meat storage without refrigeration.

I have two great-grandchildren. I was born five days after Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland and have memories of WW2. I used to help out in scrap metal drives, peeling off the labels of tin cans and cutting out the bottoms, flattening the cans and inserting the bottoms in the flat remnants. They were picked up at pre-arranged times so we put boxes full of them and old newspapers and other recyclable stuff next to the street to be picked up.

I remember reading about the war, especially the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan. I was almost six years old then and getting ready to start First Grade. I hated Hitler and we used to put old cardboard boxes on bonfires, open part down, and, when they caught on fire, chant "Hitler's house is burning down" to the tune of "London Bridge is falling down.

Until I was about eight years old, my family had a wooden outhouse behind the house but we also used to use a chamber pot to piss into at night or during bad weather. We had an icebox, which was an insulated cabinet and we used to put blocks of ice into it to keep food cool. Once a week the ice man came by delivering those blocks.

When I was very young, about four years old, we had a pump in the front yard and went out when necessary to pump the handle up and down to draw water. If we spilled some water, we didn't care, because the supply was inexhaustible.

Laura Wilder was long before my time.

I remember the Cold War and Joe McCarthy quite well. He was a senator from my home state and highly respected as a man who was protecting us from bad people. He died while in office, and otherwise probably would have kept being elected until he retired. I was too young to vote then.

I hope I don't sound nostalgic, because I'm not. Life is better now than it was them, at least in most things.

 

[CandiCame]

I have two great-grandchildren. I was born five days after Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland and have memories of WW2. I used to help out in scrap metal drives, peeling off the labels of tin cans and cutting out the bottoms, flattening the cans and inserting the bottoms in the flat remnants. They were picked up at pre-arranged times so we put boxes full of them and old newspapers and other recyclable stuff next to the street to be picked up.

I remember reading about the war, especially the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan. I was almost six years old then and getting ready to start First Grade. I hated Hitler and we used to put old cardboard boxes on bonfires, open part down, and, when they caught on fire, chant "Hitler's house is burning down" to the tune of "London Bridge is falling down.

Until I was about eight years old, my family had a wooden outhouse behind the house but we also used to use a chamber pot to piss into at night or during bad weather. We had an icebox, which was an insulated cabinet and we used to put blocks of ice into it to keep food cool. Once a week the ice man came by delivering those blocks.

When I was very young, about four years old, we had a pump in the front yard and went out when necessary to pump the handle up and down to draw water. If we spilled some water, we didn't care, because the supply was inexhaustible.

Laura Wilder was long before my time.

I remember the Cold War and Joe McCarthy quite well. He was a senator from my home state and highly respected as a man who was protecting us from bad people. He died while in office, and otherwise probably would have kept being elected until he retired. I was too young to vote then.

I hope I don't sound nostalgic, because I'm not. Life is better now than it was them, at least in most things.

I don't think anybody ever had ice boxes around here. You couldn't get anything delivered, not ice or milk or anything like that because we're so far out in the boonies. Your life sounds significantly easier than most of the old folks I talk to.

My mamaw lived through some of the stuff you're talking about here (my great-grandma) but it was before she had access to like, any form of mass communication. So if I asked her about, for example, Joe McCarthy, she had flat out no idea.

That woman had a rough life, but she was a goddamn BASTION of knowledge- not on big picture history, but on domestic history. She was kidnapped out of her yard as a kid and spent some time in the Americanization camps, and she never would talk about it, but her dad did eventually get custody back. But while she was there she mostly learned domestic skills, they were HUGE on that, so she was on some crazy shit. Lived through the depression, too, so she could make something out of nothing, like she made all her kid's clothes out of fucking flour sacks and shit.

She is the only person, living or dead, who could ever braid my hair and get it to stay braided. When I was a kid she could get that shit to stay put with one hair tie at the bottom. I don't know how, like to this day I don't know how- no one does. I think it was some kind of like... Native magic technique that has been lost to time because type 1 hair doesn't lock so it won't usually hold braids. So people will weave some kind of fabric in the braid to get it to stick, but this bitch could just DO that, with hair.

When she talked about the 30s, you know, the depression, she had a LOT of good ideas that I still use, that are coming back in vogue with the DIY movement. Taught me how to make all kinds of shit, like soap, clothes, leatherworking- I was pretty close to my papaw too, but my mamaw was the one who really watched us.

The thing about old people, and about having a big extended family that was once torn apart like that- is that it makes you really, really thankful for what you have. It makes you thankful that the government can't just kidnap you anymore (well I mean... I thought they couldn't) or that you have electricity and running water, or that condoms are a thing-

Condoms being a thing is a BIG one. My great-grandparents remember when condoms became available. There was apparently a general store, and my papaw knew the fucking SCHEDULE for when the condoms came in, because the whole damn town would be there, waiting on them to open. It wasn't like you go to Wal-mart and they're always stocked, they got them once a week and once they were gone they were gone. He told this story multiple times, like he REALLY wanted to impart this knowledge onto us. I guess because he had 13 kids and like... yeah. Yeah you don't do that shit on purpose you do that because you can't get condoms.

Also he got married when he was 15 because my mamaw was pregnant because that was the style at the time. Like that wasn't weird. You just got married when you were 15 and dropped out of school to get a job because that's what you did. It's what everyone did. He had actually dropped out before that, though, he just doesn't tell it like that. He had like an 8th grade education and it was annoying because he was such a dumbass. I get that he had to do it and that was how shit was then but like... think about how much has been squandered because people were forced to do shit like that.

Like I don't want to drag my papaw because he was always so good to me but he legit thought, like hand to god thought within my lifetime, like when I was a kid, that stars were little bitty things that sometimes fell out of the sky. He thought 'shooting stars' were actual stars. And there was a bunch of stuff like that. And he couldn't speak English very well, because he had been raised mostly without it, but like he was also kidnapped in his teens and I knew him in his 70s or 80s?? And I was like, "Dude you have been speaking English for HALF A CENTURY. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FUCKING UNDERSTAND YOU." But I legit got like every third word. Like until the day he died I never could figure out what the hell he was saying. That's mostly why I didn't learn a lot about his past.

That and he fucking bit children for some reason that is still unclear to me. He would pick you up and be like, "I'm gonna bite your nose" and he had no teeth because he was old, and it freaked me the fuck out. He'd fucking gum your nose, too. He's gum the hell out of it.

I think he started working in the mines when he was 12, started working full time when he was 14. Which is fucked up.

One thing he told me that really fucked with me is that his boss said to him that the horse was more important than he was, because you could replace an employee but you couldn't replace a mining pony. Again, said this to someone he was using for CHILD LABOR.

So it's like... the world is a lot better. But it makes me appreciate how much better it is. This bitch was underground digging coal out of the dirt when he was 12. When I was 12 I was sitting on my ass, in an air conditioned house, playing Pokemon and getting a free education. Like...

I think a lot of people, because of the nuclear family structure, don't spend a lot of time around people that old. They don't know how far we've come, how rough it was. And I feel like that's important. Because it is really easy to not understand how appreciative you should be. It's real easy to BE a spoiled little bitch. And you just... I feel like I shouldn't do that. That I should be grateful. I should be grateful for all the hardships they had to endure so that I can exist and have the shit I have. I don't think enough people get bitched out by old people.

His approach to communism, btw, was very different. Kentucky used to be openly communistic, and miners in particular were huge targets for McCarthyism because they were actually practicing communists. That's actually where the term "redneck" comes from. People used to wear red bandanas when they went on strikes and whatnot.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25474784?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

So... dude was not well loved around here. He was destroying an American tradition that dated back to the early 1900s with his new-fangled modern (in the real sense of the term, the one people shortened to 'mod') city-boy Washington bullshit. Which is honestly how I feel too, generations later. That 'every man for himself' talk is some city boy bullshit from somebody who ain't never had to do a work trade. Community is important. Bet he could just waltz his ass to the store and buy a condom when he wanted one.

 

[nowisthetime]

And the only black people in the movies way back then were probably in black face.

You are dense, why are you so ignorant?


Have you heard of "race" movies? Where most of the cast was black? Yes their roles were highly limited but they still existed.

Do not forget Lena Horne, Hattie McDaniel, Harry Belafonte, Josephine Baker, Paul Robeson, Pearl Bailey, and several other pioneers who appeared in more "mainstream" films. Lena refused to play the quintessential maid.

I suggest you read up on history. It's ok to admit ignorance, you are human.

 

[RoryN]

https://i.imgur.com/Xmv4nyR.gif

 

[Pookie]

Haven't read the thread, but let me guess - old white dudes spazzing over a woman super hero movie?

 

[von_Bismarck]

Haven't read the thread, but let me guess - old white dudes spazzing over a woman super hero movie?

You know it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You are dense, why are you so ignorant?


Have you heard of "race" movies? Where most of the cast was black? Yes their roles were highly limited but they still existed.

Do not forget Lena Horne, Hattie McDaniel, Harry Belafonte, Josephine Baker, Paul Robeson, Pearl Bailey, and several other pioneers who appeared in more "mainstream" films. Lena refused to play the quintessential maid.

I suggest you read up on history. It's ok to admit ignorance, you are human.

You could have included Dooley Wilson, who was best known as Sam in "Casablanca."

 

[Pookie]

You know it.

Virgins can be so annoying.

 

[Rightguide]

You are dense, why are you so ignorant?


Have you heard of "race" movies? Where most of the cast was black? Yes their roles were highly limited but they still existed.

Do not forget Lena Horne, Hattie McDaniel, Harry Belafonte, Josephine Baker, Paul Robeson, Pearl Bailey, and several other pioneers who appeared in more "mainstream" films. Lena refused to play the quintessential maid.

I suggest you read up on history. It's ok to admit ignorance, you are human.

YAWN

Harry Belafonte was like 14 years old in 1941 (the subject year) and didn't make his first movie until 1954.

 

[schism666]

Virgins can be so annoying.

oh shit that was funny.

 

[RoryN]

didn't make his first movie until 1954.

Wrong, as usual.

 

[schism666]

Wrong, as usual.

i wonder how rightguide views harry's role in blackkklansman. i thought it was wonderful

 

[Pookie]

oh shit that was funny.

*curtsey*

 

[Pookie]

So, people who are expressing their dislike about putting a female lead into this kind of character aren't "proper"?

Seems to me this would be a HUGE red flag to any other movie producers and screenwriters to not do this kind of project again rather than dissing on the paying public.

But, what do I care, I don't go to the movies anyway.

https://media.giphy.com/media/aNM5FXDvzgFKE/giphy.gif

 

[Pocketshaver]

what fuck twats care...

big fucking deal. its a stupid movie.

Just based on the COMMERCIALS for it, its a fucking joke. And super hero movies are already a fucking joke, and this is a bigger one.

they only did movies with this character because they changed actors for captain America, and that's gonna hurt for say 4 years...

and liberalism.

Its a typical super hero concept movie, but its kind of hard to imagine the 5'5" 100 # female, even with super power, being much.

 

[schism666]

big fucking deal. its a stupid movie.

Just based on the COMMERCIALS for it, its a fucking joke. And super hero movies are already a fucking joke, and this is a bigger one.

they only did movies with this character because they changed actors for captain America, and that's gonna hurt for say 4 years...

and liberalism.

Its a typical super hero concept movie, but its kind of hard to imagine the 5'5" 100 # female, even with super power, being much.

incel says what?

 

[Dribble]

Virgins can be so annoying.

I am so glad I wasnt taking a sip of my tea...it would have gone out my nose

 

[CandiCame]

big fucking deal. its a stupid movie.

Just based on the COMMERCIALS for it, its a fucking joke. And super hero movies are already a fucking joke, and this is a bigger one.

they only did movies with this character because they changed actors for captain America, and that's gonna hurt for say 4 years...

and liberalism.

Its a typical super hero concept movie, but its kind of hard to imagine the 5'5" 100 # female, even with super power, being much.

This reads like someone who really, really wanted to fuck that alien and would bash whoever he hooked up with.

"She's not even that hot, Marv!"

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Kfjk7As3nkI/hqdefault.jpg

 

[Wrong Element]

Its a typical super hero concept movie, but its kind of hard to imagine the 5'5" 100 # female, even with super power, being much.

Unrealistic: a woman with super powers.

Realistic: The Incredible Hulk.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Harpy thinks you should always respect majority rule. Except when it's the popular vote for President.

Apparently YOU failed to get the message. It doesn't matter if the original conception was for a female lead, THE PAYING PUBLIC doesn't like it. Dissing on them in favor of the disliked concept is stupid. That's like saying the Edsel was a fantastic car and people were morons for not buying one.

It was a fantastic car for it's era. Except the PAYING PUBLIC didn't like it.

Guess what happened next...

 

[RoryN]

big fucking deal. its a stupid movie.

Just based on the COMMERCIALS for it, its a fucking joke. And super hero movies are already a fucking joke, and this is a bigger one.

they only did movies with this character because they changed actors for captain America, and that's gonna hurt for say 4 years...

and liberalism.

Its a typical super hero concept movie, but its kind of hard to imagine the 5'5" 100 # female, even with super power, being much.

^^^^ Gotta love it when the premise of your thread is proved in one post.

 

[RoryN]

double post