Hooray for Scott Walker!


That may be the spin "Wonkette" tries to put on it, but let's look at the facts:

[T]he company says it is going ahead with developing the Wisconsin property and still expects to hire up to 13,000 workers....

Louis Woo, special assistant to Foxconn CEO Terry Gou, told Reuters that... three-quarters of Foxconn's eventual jobs will be in research and development and design, not blue-collar manufacturing jobs....

"We remain committed to the Wisconsin Valley Science and Technology Park project, the creation of 13,000 jobs, and to our long-term investment in Wisconsin," said the statement from the company. "The global market environment that existed when the project was first announced has changed. As our plans are driven by those of our customers, this has necessitated the adjustment of plans for all projects, including Wisconsin. While the project's focus will be adjusted to meet these new realities, the Wisconsin project remains a priority for our company."​

C. Isidore, Foxconn may drop plans to build flat screens in Wisconsin, CNN (Jan. 30, 2019) (emphasis added).

Put simply, it's going to be even better for Wisconsin than originally planned. More white collar, "research and development and design" jobs in a more diversified facility. Remember, Foxconn only gets the incentive money if it hits the employment goals. This is great news for Wisconsin!
 
You're also getting owned by reality.


It actually appears that you're getting "owned" by your own sources.

Both of the sources you have quoted on this subject say that Foxconn is going ahead with developments that will create 13,000 jobs. They are just different than originally planned due to changing economic conditions.

 
I'm a racist who can't read.

From the second article:

On Thursday, Japanese business publication Nikkei Asian Review reported the Taiwanese electronic manufacturer’s Racine County project “has been suspended and scaled back as a result of negotiations with new Gov. Tony Evers.”

From the CNN article:

As our plans are driven by those of our customers, this has necessitated the adjustment of plans for all projects, including Wisconsin. While the project's focus will be adjusted to meet these new realities.

Now I know you and dawn are not only huge racists but believe anything these business people say. That's how your got suckered by them into giving away billions of dollars for, what is shaping up to be, not much. Now because you're both racists morons you're both desperately trying to backtrack and claim that somehow not having this plant built is a good thing.

You're both going to get owned by reality. But if you want to worship at the altar of free market capitalist idiocy by all means but remember you'll have to justify not only selling out the state's environment, money that could have gone to the suffering Wisconsin school system*, infrustracture etc. but statements from coporate overlords like this: "In Wisconsin we’re not building a factory. You can’t use a factory to view our Wisconsin investment,” Woo said."

*Wisconsin by the way spends about the same amount of money as notoriously great education states like West Virginia, Montana, and Louisiana. Which puts them at a whopping 18 losing to spendthrift states like Wyoming and North Dakota.

Sorry racist dawn and joe you're shitty governor got hosed and you fell for it.
 
Do you actually believe there is a group more racist than the one mentioned on these sites? https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=aaplw&p=new+black+panther+party+kill+white+people


Probably not. But you could make a case that the Republicans under Trump are equally racist. Besides, to the best of my knowledge, no member of the New Black Panther party has been elected to anything anywhere. The Republicans control two and a half of the three branches of the federal government? Which is the more dangerous, regardless of which is actually more racist?


As for Scott Walker, I see at least he's keeping his name in the news in retirement by spreading disinformation to children about how tax brackets work. I wonder, though, does he really not know either, or is he being deliberately dishonest? My money's on the latter; to win three times in a state that leans against one's party, you might be evil but you're probably not stupid.
 
Ha Ha Ha, Hee Hee Hee!

JackLuis and dan_c00000:

The company is moving ahead with the projects it said it would build in the next 18 months. Those facilities include assembly, packaging and molding operations. Building those facilities first would allow the company to ship components to Mount Pleasant for assembly while the fabrication facility, which would actually make the screens, is built.

Getting operations up and running would help the company increase its employment in the state, allowing it to potentially earn payroll tax credits.​

A. Thomas, Foxconn says it will move ahead with Gen 6 LCD display plant in Mount Pleasant, BizTimes (Feb. 1, 2019).

Hee Hee Hee, Ha Ha Ha!

Yes, JackLuis and dan_c00000, I'm laughing at you.

Just like everyone else does.
 
Probably not. But you could make a case that the Republicans under Trump are equally racist. Besides, to the best of my knowledge, no member of the New Black Panther party has been elected to anything anywhere. The Republicans control two and a half of the three branches of the federal government? Which is the more dangerous, regardless of which is actually more racist?


As for Scott Walker, I see at least he's keeping his name in the news in retirement by spreading disinformation to children about how tax brackets work. I wonder, though, does he really not know either, or is he being deliberately dishonest? My money's on the latter; to win three times in a state that leans against one's party, you might be evil but you're probably not stupid.

Are you actually saying the GOP is advocating genocide the way the people I cited are?

I don't know of any office holders who are members of the NBPP either. There may be some city council members or something like that, but probably nothing more than that. They are a small group, probably slightly larger than the KKK, without much outside support. However, that does not stop them from being virulently racist. Generally speaking, they favor Democrats.

I don't believe Scott Walker is retired. Although he did lose the election in Nov., he can run again in four years or he can maybe run for the Senate. I'm not saying he will; I'm saying he might. ETA: Since Walker is only 51 years old, I'm pretty sure he will not retire yet.

As for what he said to a group of children it was just a simplistic answer to some fifth graders. Had he been speaking to accounting students and said the same thing, that would have been another matter entirely.
 
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Are you actually saying the GOP is advocating genocide the way the people I cited are?
No. I'm saying some of its supporters are. Trump has had plenty of opportunities to distance himself and his party from those who are, but instead we get soundbites about "very fine people on both sides".

I don't know of any office holders who are members of the NBPP either. There may be some city council members or something like that, but probably nothing more than that. They are a small group, probably slightly larger than the KKK, without much outside support. However, that does not stop them from being virulently racist. Generally speaking, they favor Democrats.
Cite, please, on that last line of yours. The link you provided shows nothing of the sort, and they are a separate party to boot. (Also, if you're thinking of former members of the original Black Panther Party, they do tend to support Democrats - but they have nothing to do with the NBPP and I think you'll find they don't approve of its coopting of their name.

Your argument here is also contradictory to your very longstanding habit of accusing Democrats of being racist against blacks, too.

As for what he said to a group of children it was just a simplistic answer to some fifth graders. Had he been speaking to accounting students and said the same thing, that would have been another matter entirely.
No, it was not "a simplistic answer", it was a factually wrong answer. The only fundamental difference between children and accounting students is that the latter would be more likely to know Walker was wrong.
 
No. I'm saying some of its supporters are. Trump has had plenty of opportunities to distance himself and his party from those who are, but instead we get soundbites about "very fine people on both sides".


Cite, please, on that last line of yours. The link you provided shows nothing of the sort, and they are a separate party to boot. (Also, if you're thinking of former members of the original Black Panther Party, they do tend to support Democrats - but they have nothing to do with the NBPP and I think you'll find they don't approve of its coopting of their name.

Your argument here is also contradictory to your very longstanding habit of accusing Democrats of being racist against blacks, too.


No, it was not "a simplistic answer", it was a factually wrong answer. The only fundamental difference between children and accounting students is that the latter would be more likely to know Walker was wrong.

Do you have any proof that any of the supporters that Trump wants are advocates of genocide?

It was not an answer. To have been an answer would require a question, and none was asked.
 
It was not an answer. To have been an answer would require a question, and none was asked.

True, but YOU are the one who used that word to characterize what he said in the first place. Nice dodge though.
 
Also, Box, you still haven't offered up a shred of evidence for your claim that NBPP members "generally speaking...favor Democrats".
 
First of all, consider the source. The Western Journal is a right-wing rag founded by Floyd Brown, who is best known for the Willie Horton ad in 1988.

Secondly, here's some context that you won't get in that article: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/black-panthers-georgia-pictures/

Third, even your own source notes that Abrams did not endorse or support the NBPP in any way. What it does not say - but a five minute Google search would have revealed - is that even the part members in that march expressed tepid support at best for Abrams, because she supported gun control and they didn't. If you looked up what they actually had to say for themselves, it was essentially that they were supporting her on a lesser-of-two-evils basis against a Republican who was running an openly racist campaign.
 
First of all, consider the source. The Western Journal is a right-wing rag founded by Floyd Brown, who is best known for the Willie Horton ad in 1988.

Secondly, here's some context that you won't get in that article: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/black-panthers-georgia-pictures/

Third, even your own source notes that Abrams did not endorse or support the NBPP in any way. What it does not say - but a five minute Google search would have revealed - is that even the part members in that march expressed tepid support at best for Abrams, because she supported gun control and they didn't. If you looked up what they actually had to say for themselves, it was essentially that they were supporting her on a lesser-of-two-evils basis against a Republican who was running an openly racist campaign.

I'm a bit puzzled as to what you mean by "context." What I see is a group of heavily armed members of NBBP carrying signs supporting a Dem. candidate for gov. Because of who and what they are the candidate may have some doubts about their support, but that's beside the point.

What does the former outfielder have to do with this?
 
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Ha Capitalism!

So racist dawn thinks "she's" won? Sorry dawn but you're getting owned by the shitty deal. Just because the plant is still happening, who knows at this point, all the shit that took in racist suckers like you is still in place.

Let's not forget that your precious "free" market capitalist nonsense had to be saved by a Nazi supporter "a personal conversation between Trump and Foxconn Chairman Terry Gou, it plans to proceed with the smaller manufacturing facility". It's weird how you want the government to stay out of business until you're desperate for them to save capitalism from itself.

And it's not like this is a boon for the people of Wisconsin ("It's unclear if the benefits would ever be as great as the incentive costs," said Bartik, senior economist at the Michigan-based Upjohn Institute for Employment Research who studies subsidies.) and it's not like Foxconn can be trusted: "In addition, Foxconn has raised doubts over its hiring promises. In Wisconsin, Foxconn failed to meet its job-creation target for 2018. Globally, Foxconn planned to cut 100,000 jobs by the end of 2018 and slash $2.9 billion in costs in 2019."

Finally, racist dawn likes to forget that "her" hero Trump pulled the same stunt not too long ago and look how that wound up.

Hundreds to be laid off at Indiana factory a year after Trump deal to save jobs

At Carrier, the Factory Trump Saved, Morale Is Through the Floor
Twenty months after the president-elect reached a deal to keep blue-collar jobs from leaving the country, absenteeism plagues the Indiana plant
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Poor racist dawn went from the fryer to the frying pan.
 
Oh Scotty!

Wisconsin State Supreme Court candidate’s ‘work’ includes paid speeches to anti-LGBT hate group, founding anti-gay school

Brian Hagedorn is a state appeals court judge who was appointed by then-governor Scott Walker. Last month it was revealed he had kept a blog during his law school years in which he “twice wrote that a landmark gay rights ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court striking down a Texas anti-sodomy law could lead to the legalization of bestiality, sex with animals, in America,” The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported.
“‘The idea that homosexual behavior is different than bestiality as a constitutional matter is unjustifiable,” Hagedorn falsely wrote in October 2005. “There is no right in our Constitution to have sex with whoever or whatever you want in the privacy of your own home (or barn).”
Now Hagedorn is under fire after it was revealed that one year after he became a judge on the state Appeals Court, he founded a Christian prep school that bans same-sex relationships.

What an asshole!
 
Democrats picked Milwaukee on Monday to host their 2020 national convention....

In a political twist, Milwaukee officials have credited the Republican [Scott] Walker for supporting the convention bid. Democratic Party proceedings will play out in the new 17,500-seat arena that Walker helped build for the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks by securing public financing from state lawmakers. Walker later lobbied GOP-leaning business leaders and donors to support Milwaukee's effort to land the DNC.

"When it comes to a big convention like this, it's not red, it's not blue, it's green." Walker told The Associated Press. "It's the money that will come into the state."​

B. Barrow, I. Moreno, S. Bauer, Democrats pick Milwaukee for 2020 convention — with an assist from Scott Walker, Chicago Tribune (Mar. 11, 2019).
 
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