The Greatest Scientic Fraud of All Time

[trysail]

Roger Andrews Has Died Aged 77

"...On specific energy and climate issues I’m guided by what the data tell me, not by claims made in the scientific literature. This is why you will find me disagreeing with most of the “consensus” views on climate change but not all of them. My main concern for the future of my three grandchildren isn’t climate change, but that the misguided efforts of the people who want to save the world from it will leave them freezing in the dark."

-Roger Andrews​

more...

​

​

 

[trysail]

The Climate Scare: Ever More Shrill, Ever Less Serious

by Francis Menton

"...Do you think that the Dems would bring in a few serious scientists to prove their case? Don’t kid yourself. The majority’s witnesses were two politicians, a clergyman, a climate activist, and a 16 year old. From the clergyman:

“Climate change is a civil rights issue,” Reverend Lennox Yearwood, president of the Hip Hop Caucus, told lawmakers on the committee on Wednesday morning. Lennox also referred to tackling global warming as the “lunch counter moment for the 21st century.” Yearwood also warned the U.S. does “not make it beyond 12 years from now without huge amounts of death, destruction, and suffering” unless Congress addressed global warming, according to his prepared remarks. To hit the point home, Yearwood wore a hat with the words “12 Years” on it, which he placed in front of himself during the hearing.​

Rev. Yearwood does not seem to think that tripling or quadrupling the electricity bills of poor people is anything anyone should care about. Also, I would have recommended to the Rev. Yearwood that before issuing one of these scary climate “tipping points,” he should have reviewed the Manhattan Contrarian Climate Tipping Points Quiz to see how many climate idiots (Al Gore, Prince Charles, James Hansen, Jeremy Rifkin, Timothy Wirth, George Monbiot, etc., etc., etc.) have previously made fools of themselves by issuing these tipping points, only to see the predicted year of disaster pass without anything notable occurring.

Or, from the 16 year old:

Nadia Nazar, the 16-year-old founder of the Zero Hour Movement, said the Trump administration’s inaction on “climate change is violating my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...”​

more...


​

​

 

[von_Bismarck]

Texas Could Easily Generate Most of Its Energy Through Wind and Solar, Study Finds

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a25736950/texas-solar-wind-energy-study/

As for the question of reliability, the study lets the state's current energy sources set the standard. Relying on previous data, they show that "coal-fired power plants are typically available 87.5% of the time, after accounting for scheduled maintenance and unscheduled maintenance or outages." The benchmark for solar and wind, then, would be an identical availability rate of 87.5 percent or more.

Wind from west Texas alone, combined with solar energy, could provide "the highest levels of firm capacity at an 87.5% threshold" the study finds. On a day-to-day level, all three power sources would trade off regularly—solar during the day, south Texan wind during the late afternoon, and west Texas wind during the evening.

Most studies I've looked at suggest there's a point of diminishing returns around 80%. That is, given current technological limitations, it's cost effective for the grid to be supplied by 80% wind and solar generated electricity. After 80% and costs begin to skyrocket. Looks like the Chinese are going ahead with space based solar. They want a one GW capacity by 2030.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Massive restoration of world’s forests would cancel out a decade of CO2 emissions, analysis suggests

https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...s-trillion-trees-global-warming-a8782071.html

“We are not targeting urban or agricultural area, just degraded or abandoned lands, and it has the potential to tackle the two greatest challenges of our time – climate change and biodiversity loss,” said Dr Crowther.

“It’s a beautiful thing because everyone can get involved. Trees literally just make people happier in urban environments, they improve air quality, water quality, food quality, ecosystem service, it’s such an easy, tangible thing.”

 

[phrodeau]

Massive restoration of world’s forests would cancel out a decade of CO2 emissions, analysis suggests

https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...s-trillion-trees-global-warming-a8782071.html

“We are not targeting urban or agricultural area, just degraded or abandoned lands, and it has the potential to tackle the two greatest challenges of our time – climate change and biodiversity loss,” said Dr Crowther.

“It’s a beautiful thing because everyone can get involved. Trees literally just make people happier in urban environments, they improve air quality, water quality, food quality, ecosystem service, it’s such an easy, tangible thing.”

That’s a good start. What could cancel out the other eleven decades?

 

[von_Bismarck]

That’s a good start. What could cancel out the other eleven decades?

Time. I think of a massive tree planting campaign as buying additional time to go carbon neutral. And it might have the added benefit of restoring some biodiversity.

 

[butters]

Time. I think of a massive tree planting campaign as buying additional time to go carbon neutral. And it might have the added benefit of restoring some biodiversity.

what shits me is that we were being taught this stuff back in the 70's.. "plant a tree in 73, plant one more in 74". global warming was recognised, the planting of additional forest/trees as something to help towards slowing it down and reducing harmful shit from the air we breathed. now, over FORTY years later, and it's still having to be battled for.

 

[von_Bismarck]

what shits me is that we were being taught this stuff back in the 70's.. "plant a tree in 73, plant one more in 74". global warming was recognised, the planting of additional forest/trees as something to help towards slowing it down and reducing harmful shit from the air we breathed. now, over FORTY years later, and it's still having to be battled for.

I started a thread what seems like ages ago about energy security. No matter what our view about global warming, it seems like there are ample reasons for everyone to agree we ought to be transforming our grid and sources of energy. But even those ideas get pushback. It's like energy policy just got absorbed into an ideological dispute. It's sad.

 

[trysail]

Massive East Coast solar project generates fury from neighbors

by Alex Pappas

SPOTSYLVANIA, Va. – Michael O’Bier has lived here on a hidden piece of land nestled against thousands of acres of trees in rural Virginia for 32 years.

Now, the trees are gone...

...The company sPower wants to build a 500-Megawatt solar project on the 6,350-acre site in western Spotsylvania County, with 3,500 acres being used to house 1.8 million solar panels. The land, currently owned by seven different landowners who plan to sell it to the company, has already been cleared for timber in anticipation of the project...

...a vocal contingent of activist-residents are working to pressure county officials to deny special use permits for sPower, arguing it would have disastrous environmental, economic and cultural impacts on the area. They point out that the proposed site is nearly half the size of Manhattan.

“Once you let the bulldozers loose, it’s really tough to stop the environmental damage...”

...the project would be an “an environmental disaster” for the area. Aside from the thousands of acres of trees that have been cleared, the Concerned Citizens of Spotsylvania group is also worried about water usage at the site, erosion, toxic materials, the potential for fires and the decommissioning of equipment if the project were discontinued. They’re also concerned that the price of electricity for residents could rise because of additional burdens on the conventional grid...


​

​

 

[Dribble]

Seems hypocritical tysail. What do you believe in? The right of a land owner to sell their property to whomever they want? Or are you now a tree hugger? How dare the land owners sell it to a company.... or did you just feel the urge to post spam because people were actually having an intelligent conversation in your bullshit loaded thread?

 

[bellisarius]

Massive East Coast solar project generates fury from neighbors

by Alex Pappas

SPOTSYLVANIA, Va. – Michael O’Bier has lived here on a hidden piece of land nestled against thousands of acres of trees in rural Virginia for 32 years.

Now, the trees are gone...

...The company sPower wants to build a 500-Megawatt solar project on the 6,350-acre site in western Spotsylvania County, with 3,500 acres being used to house 1.8 million solar panels. The land, currently owned by seven different landowners who plan to sell it to the company, has already been cleared for timber in anticipation of the project...

...a vocal contingent of activist-residents are working to pressure county officials to deny special use permits for sPower, arguing it would have disastrous environmental, economic and cultural impacts on the area. They point out that the proposed site is nearly half the size of Manhattan.

“Once you let the bulldozers loose, it’s really tough to stop the environmental damage...”

...the project would be an “an environmental disaster” for the area. Aside from the thousands of acres of trees that have been cleared, the Concerned Citizens of Spotsylvania group is also worried about water usage at the site, erosion, toxic materials, the potential for fires and the decommissioning of equipment if the project were discontinued. They’re also concerned that the price of electricity for residents could rise because of additional burdens on the conventional grid...


​

​

An entire township? That's HUGE.

Back in 1975-76 Popular Science magazine devoted and entire month to the future of solar power. I still remember the cover, acres of solar panels elevated on stanchions with cows grazing underneath. The next month one astute reader queried as to exactly what shade grown delicacy the cows were feeding on?

On average there are only 202 days of Sun in Spotsylvania as opposed to the national avg. of 205. Which makes the project only 55% efficient out of the box. Further degrade that by the efficiency of current solar cell technology and there's no way this project is going to even break even. The consumer is going to take it in the shorts and erosion is going to be a huge problem.

It is even questionable whether the loss of CO2 absorption by robust foliage is going to be offset by this project. There is politics and taxpayer's monies in play here, not sound business practices.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Seems hypocritical tysail. What do you believe in? The right of a land owner to sell their property to whomever they want? Or are you now a tree hugger? How dare the land owners sell it to a company.... or did you just feel the urge to post spam because people were actually having an intelligent conversation in your bullshit loaded thread?

Yes.

 

[phrodeau]

An entire township? That's HUGE.

Back in 1975-76 Popular Science magazine devoted and entire month to the future of solar power. I still remember the cover, acres of solar panels elevated on stanchions with cows grazing underneath. The next month one astute reader queried as to exactly what shade grown delicacy the cows were feeding on?

On average there are only 202 days of Sun in Spotsylvania as opposed to the national avg. of 205. Which makes the project only 55% efficient out of the box. Further degrade that by the efficiency of current solar cell technology and there's no way this project is going to even break even. The consumer is going to take it in the shorts and erosion is going to be a huge problem.

It is even questionable whether the loss of CO2 absorption by robust foliage is going to be offset by this project. There is politics and taxpayer's monies in play here, not sound business practices.

We are so lucky to have you here to point out the hard truths that generations of professional scientists never thought to address. Why, those few acres of trees could have absorbed enough CO2 to counter half the taxis in Washington DC. They'd still need gas, though.

On the other hand, the solar project could provide power for those taxis, as well as the other half of the taxis in Washington DC, and also all the taxis in Baltimore, Boston, Philadelphia and New York City combined, including Ubers.

 

[trysail]

Hurricanes & Climate Change: Detection

https://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/slide01.png

by Judith A. Curry, Ph.D.

"...The relatively short historical record of hurricane activity, and the even shorter record from the satellite era, is not sufficient to assess whether recent hurricane activity is unusual for during the current interglacial period. Results from paleotempestology analyses in the North Atlantic at a limited number of locations indicate that the current heightened activity is not unusual, with a ‘hyperactive period’ apparently occurring from 3400 to 1000 years before present.

Global hurricane activity since 1970 shows no significant trends in overall frequency, although there is some evidence of increasing numbers of major hurricanes and of an increase in the percentage of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes.

In the North Atlantic, all measures of hurricane activity have increased since 1970, although comparably high levels of activities also occurred during the 1950’s and 1960’s."



more...




​

-Judith A. Curry, Ph.D.
Professor & Chair, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences (emerita)
Georgia Institute of Technology
Ph.D., Geophysical Sciences, University of Chicago, 1982
NASA Advisory Council Earth Science Subcommittee
Fellow, American Meteorological Society
Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science
Fellow, American Geophysical Union


​

 

[von_Bismarck]

Here's a good idea.

Negative carbon via Ocean Afforestation

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0957582012001206

Offset carbon emissions while feeding the world and acting to deacidify the ocean.

 

[trysail]

The Greatest Scientific Fraud Of All Time— Part XX


by Francis Menton, J.D.

"For those new to this topic, the Greatest Scientific Fraud Of All Time is the systematic downward adjustment of early-year temperatures in order to create a fake enhanced warming trend, the better to bamboozle voters and politicians to go along with extreme measures to try to avert the impending “climate crisis.” Prior posts in this series have documented large and unexplained downward adjustments at hundreds of stations around the world that are used by official government organizations (in the US, primarily NOAA and NASA) to wipe out early-year high temperatures and thereby proclaim that the latest month or year is “the hottest ever!” To read all prior posts in this series...


...the latest temperature adjustments were released “oh-so-quietly.” I guess that the plan is just to start using the new figures as the historical comparisons and bet that journalists will be too stupid or ignorant to figure out that the earlier temperatures have been altered. That’s actually a pretty good bet. However, down in Australia they do have a hard-working group of independent researchers who are on top of this issue. One of them is Nova, and another is Chris Gillham. Gillham has done his own very detailed analysis of the adjustments in the ACORN2 report...


...Do they offer a justification for these downward adjustments? Yes, but nothing remotely satisfactory. The one-word explanation is “homogenization.” OK, we understand what that is. For example, sometimes a station moves, and that causes a discontinuity, where, say, the new location is systematically 0.1 deg C lower than the old. An adjustment needs to be made. But these sorts of adjustments should cancel out. How is it possible that every time some official meteorological organization anywhere in the world makes some of these “homogenization” adjustments, the result is that earlier years get colder and the supposed “global warming” trend gets enhanced — always to support a narrative of “climate crisis.”


...As far as I am concerned, this is the definitive proof of the fraud. If this were even an attempt at real, credible science, the proponents would put out a document complete with the details of the adjustments — and all of their computer code — so that an independent researcher could replicate the work. Nothing like that is here. This is pure bafflegab...


...All of these methods, which use different statistical approaches, have been successfully used across a range of networks since their development. Further details on their implementation are given in Appendix C.

My favorite part is that reference at the end to “Appendix C.” This document has no Appendix C. There are three appendices, numbered Appendix 1, Appendix 2 and Appendix 3. That’s about the intellectual level we are dealing with...


much more...​

_____________________

Francis Menton, J.D. is a Yale College graduate and a retired partner of Wilkie, Farr & Gallagher LLP

​

 

[trysail]

"Mike" is, of course, the infamous (and justifiably discredited) Michael "Piltdown" Mann.




https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/josh-mikes-nature-trick.jpg



​

 

[oneblueye]

hey...

re: O.P.

the Theory of Evolution

 

[von_Bismarck]

re: O.P.

the Theory of Evolution

What about the "theory of evolution"?

 

[von_Bismarck]

Energy Storage Has A Breakout Year On Both Sides Of The Meter

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmc...year-on-both-sides-of-the-meter/#25baa27e533d

“They’re saying in 7 years, I don’t even know if we’re going to want this natural gas. So we need the flexibility to take it or leave it. I know I say this a lot, this word, but that is a huge signpost. It’s absolutely remarkable that energy storage+solar is so competitive that it is affecting the kind of contracts that a natural-gas plant can receive. This is becoming an existential—I don’t want to say threat—an existential disruptor for the entire energy market.”

 

[ishtat]

Trysail. This is a thread about science, mathematics, statistics and so on. I wondered what particular area you were educated in when you were at college?

Knowing this would allow one to attach a more appropriate weight to your argument.

 

[trysail]

Another example of Kip Hansen's usual diligent and thorough work:


https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/featured_img.jpg


Not Threatened by Climate Change: Orkney Islands

by Kip Hansen

"Way up at the northern tip of Scotland, and a short ferry ride away, one finds the magnificent, bleak, intriguing islands of Orkney. Signs of human habitation go back 5,000 years, with the ruins of old Norse halls and Neolithic tombs long covered by sand packs and crusted earth, which have protected them through millennium.


It is those earth crusts and sand packs that lead into this story. Most of the grand archaeological finds in the Orkneys have literally been stumbled upon — some Orkney has stubbed his toe on a protruding stone where recent rains, or maybe passing cows, have broken through the grass-covered crust and allowed rains and wind to erode the crust away just a bit exposing a stone that has obviously been worked by man. Whenever one of these ancient buildings or walls gets exposed to wind and rain and weather, erosion quickly begins to eat away at the edges of the fragile soil, exposing more of the ruin and causing some to tumble down...


...The New York Times published a visually terrific article with soaring moving images of some of these ancient ruins from the air, in the Climate section, titled “Saving Scotland’s Heritage From the Rising Seas”. I highly recommend taking a look, the moving aerial drone footage graphics are wonderful. Unfortunately, the text contains a some misinformation and unfounded claims about sea levels and climate...


...The antiquities of the Orkneys are not threatened in the present by any measure of “increased storminess”.

Any threat of increased storminess must refer to future climate states based on projections via climate models which are known to have little (if any) ability to project future climates on such a small geographical/regional scale.

# # # # #

https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Orkney_monthly.jpg


https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Orkney_annualy_with_RANGE.jpg



Bottom Line: The Orkneys’ Historical Sites are Not Threatened by Climate Change..."

more...


​

​

 

[Hal9000_]

Is there any doubt as to atmospheric CO2 concentration?

Is there any doubt as to the reason for the rise of said concentration?

Is atmospheric geoengineering already being implemented to attempt to mitigate the effects of said concentration?

 

[Que]

Is there any doubt as to atmospheric CO2 concentration?

Is there any doubt as to the reason for the rise of said concentration?

Is atmospheric geoengineering already being implemented to attempt to mitigate the effects of said concentration?

No, but there is plenty of doubt about what effect that has had, much less what, specifically, future effects will he, at what levels.

Not only is correlation not causation in this case you can't even show reasonable correlation.

It makes a fine alternate reality religion for leftist though. The entire scheme is nothing more than a wealth redistribution idea. Energy usage is a good metric to determine prosperity of Any Given Society so if you want to punish a prosperous society you can easily do that by punishing it energy consumption. That was and is the entire point.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Tryfail's posting fund might start shrinking.

More bad news for coal: Wind and solar are getting cheaper

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...s/coal-solar-wind-renewable-energy/index.html

The simple laws of economics threaten to doom America's remaining coal power plants.

Wind and solar costs have plunged so rapidly that 74% of the US coal fleet could be phased out for renewable energy -- and still save customers money, according to a report released on Monday by Energy Innovation, a nonpartisan think tank.

That figure of at-risk coal plants in the United States rises to 86% by 2025 as solar and wind costs continue to plunge.