Iran - John Bolton/ Mira Ricardel, The Pentagon/State Department - Trump

[beew]

I only started this thread (I normally wouldn’t, since I lack confidence around such topics) because I found no comment about it in the forum. Which is also a bit surprising, given both parties’ huge interest in Mira Ricardel, 3 months ago.



“The White House's National Security Council asked the Pentagon last year for plans for launching a military attack against Iran, the Wall Street Journal reported early Sunday, citing current and former US officials.
The request from the council, which is led by national security adviser John Bolton, came after an attack in September on the US Embassy in Baghdad by a militant group aligned with Iran, according to the Journal.
According to the paper, Mira Ricardel, the former deputy national security adviser, described the attacks in Iraq as "an act of war," and said that the US needed to respond accordingly.”

The request was met with concern by both the Pentagon and the State Department, according to the Journal, with one former administration official telling the paper that people were "shocked" by the request.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/13/...rstrikes-national-security-council/index.html


Other sites state that Trump was just as opposed to it.


Is there a shift in the Dems/Reps Middle East policy? And who do GBers cons9der now to be the ‘good guys versus the bad guys’? Both in the White House and in the Middle East

 

[Dazzle1]

I only started this thread (I normally wouldn’t, since I lack confidence around such topics) because I found no comment about it in the forum. Which is also a bit surprising, given both parties’ huge interest in Mira Ricardel, 3 months ago.



“The White House's National Security Council asked the Pentagon last year for plans for launching a military attack against Iran, the Wall Street Journal reported early Sunday, citing current and former US officials.
The request from the council, which is led by national security adviser John Bolton, came after an attack in September on the US Embassy in Baghdad by a militant group aligned with Iran, according to the Journal.
According to the paper, Mira Ricardel, the former deputy national security adviser, described the attacks in Iraq as "an act of war," and said that the US needed to respond accordingly.”

The request was met with concern by both the Pentagon and the State Department, according to the Journal, with one former administration official telling the paper that people were "shocked" by the request.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/13/...rstrikes-national-security-council/index.html


Other sites state that Trump was just as opposed to it.


Is there a shift in the Dems/Reps Middle East policy? And who do GBers cons9der now to be the ‘good guys versus the bad guys’? Both in the White House and in the Middle East

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It is planning contingencies Iran is a worldwide terrorist threat as long as it is run by Islamists

 

[von_Bismarck]

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[Hal9000_]

We've had plans to take out their uranium processing facilities for a while.
We have already launched cyber attacks against them.

We still know it's only a matter of time before they refine enough to make a working bomb.

 

[oO00Oo]

We've had plans to take out their uranium processing facilities for a while.
We have already launched cyber attacks against them.

We still know it's only a matter of time before they refine enough to make a working bomb.

The jews won't let it happen.

 

[RobDownSouth]

John Bolton has always been one of the strongest proponents of "pre-emptive wars", the discredited Bush Doctrine.

 

[beew]

It's just that I was surprised to read that both Trump (who's pro SA, so to speak) and Democrats (who are against a US-SA alliance and more towards Iran) opposed Bolton's and Mira Ricardel's pressure to bomb Iran.
It’s the first time that I’ve heard of Trump and Dems being on the same page.

And Mira Ricardel's firing came soon after.

So both Trump and Dem. officials were against Bolton's and Mira Ricardel’s warmongering at the time, yet both the L and R press were describing a different WH dynamic at the time of her firing.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Iran is four times the size of Iraq and every bit as volatile. Invading it would be a really bad idea.

 

[Kirkrapine]

The jews won't let it happen.

What power have they?!

 

[Dazzle1]

Iran is four times the size of Iraq and every bit as volatile. Invading it would be a really bad idea.

But eliminating the Ayatollah the ruling mullahs and their terrorist military would be a good thing

 

[SpeareChucker]

Actually, it has not passed by without comment, but it as mainly comment by the American Progressive Left because the finally got ManBearPig in a trap...





The rest of us know that there there are already contingency plans for things like that because we understand how diplomacy works; walk softly and carry a big stick.

 

[bellisarius]

Concocting plans and executing plans are two different things. Somewhere deep in the bowels of the pentagon are plans to attack and invade the UK. This is a verified fact. They're old and dusty now but they do indeed exist.

This is just another example of denizens of the 'deep state' (probably in State) that can't keep their mouths shut. They really need to be tracked down and prosecuted. "Shocked" is just another word for "terrified" and I'm sure a few were.

Military action against a foreign power does not require an invasion. I see at least one poster immediately jumped to the invasion conclusion. Iran can be brought to its economic knees by very limited military actions. Iran is 100% dependent on their petroleum exports to keep their economy alive and all of their oil is currently being exported from four terminals. Disable or destroy those terminals and Iran is out of the oil business. Iran is well aware of its vulnerability and is planning on a fifth terminal not located in the Persian Gulf, but its still an economic choke point and still subject to being disabled/destroyed. And even this proposed move is complicated by the fact that they can't keep their people fed, continue with their military activities AND build the new terminal too. They're having a hard enough time just doing the first two on the list.