Why Trump will win the shutdown

[TalkRadio1]

The Democrats have made this a zero-sum game. If Trump gets any money for the wall, he wins. That’s a really fantastic position for him. He can go on TV, whether in a controversial network roadblock or an appearance on the southern border, and say, “Hey, I’m up for a compromise.” Meanwhile, Chuck and Nancy have to slam the door shut on getting 800,000 federal employees back to work.

If the government shutdown ends in the near future, which it well may not, it will only be because the Democrats fold on wall funding. There is no other way out. Pelosi made this a do or die situation. In all likelihood Trump will be willing to keep the government shutdown for the rest of his presidency. Is Pelosi up for that?

Pelosi will have to fold here. There is no benefit to Trump for folding, and plenty of benefit for her. She played it wrong. Fair enough: she can live to fight another day, but this time, on this fight, Trump is beating her soundly and will get his wall funding. It’s only a matter of time.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/01/11/trump-will-win-shutdown/

 

[Kirkrapine]

She played it wrong.

How should she have played it? I don't see how she had any options.

 

[von_Bismarck]

https://thefederalist.com/2019/01/11/trump-will-win-shutdown/

STFU, miles.

 

[Oblimo]

“Hey, I’m up for a compromise.”

...said no one named Donald Trump ever.

 

[DeluxAuto]

I'm so happy for Trump to be winning this war against Americans.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm so happy for Trump to be winning this war against Americans.

What are against Americans?

 

[Ann_Tagonist]

I've always been a fan of government shutdowns. It's like fasting. It hurts going through it but afterwards you realize it was good for you in the long run and maybe getting by on less is not so tough after all.

 

[Que]

Chuck and Nancy are either so committed to saving 5 billion dollars that they're willing to let a million Democrats be out of work or they're so committed to leaving the gate open that they're willing to let a million Democrats stay out of work. I don't really see how that benefits them.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Looks like most of America disagrees with most of the folks in this thread.

 

[Kirkrapine]

What are against Americans?

Government shutdowns.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Chuck and Nancy are either so committed to saving 5 billion dollars that they're willing to let a million Democrats be out of work or they're so committed to leaving the gate open that they're willing to let a million Democrats stay out of work. I don't really see how that benefits them.

It's not about saving the $5 billion, it's about not spending it on a boondoggle.

 

[Hal9000_]

It's not about saving the $5 billion, it's about not spending it on a boondoggle.

A boondoggle would at least be something.

Trump wants 5 billion for a slogan.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Somewhere, over the rainbow . . .

The Democrats have made this a zero-sum game. If Trump gets any money for the wall, he wins. That’s a really fantastic position for him. He can go on TV, whether in a controversial network roadblock or an appearance on the southern border, and say, “Hey, I’m up for a compromise.” Meanwhile, Chuck and Nancy have to slam the door shut on getting 800,000 federal employees back to work.

If the government shutdown ends in the near future, which it well may not, it will only be because the Democrats fold on wall funding. There is no other way out. Pelosi made this a do or die situation. In all likelihood Trump will be willing to keep the government shutdown for the rest of his presidency. Is Pelosi up for that?

Pelosi will have to fold here. There is no benefit to Trump for folding, and plenty of benefit for her. She played it wrong. Fair enough: she can live to fight another day, but this time, on this fight, Trump is beating her soundly and will get his wall funding. It’s only a matter of time.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/01/11/trump-will-win-shutdown/

 

[BotanyBoy]

Government shutdowns.

You have a bizarre definition of war.

 

[Maeven_quinn]

STFU, miles.

That's all that needs to be said about that trash article.

Pelosi et al are fighting the wall because it is waste, because it is immoral, and because it is undemocratic.

None of those things mean anything to the GOP. So instead they see these in terms of only who has something to gain or lose only. They're too nihilistic to understand the importance of at least pretending to have principles.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You have a bizarre definition of war.

The entire article is hyperbole so I responded in kind.

 

[toeskr]

Get rid of non essentials. Drain the swamp.

Efficiency. Will be interesting to see that the government can function without biologists studying moth breeding cycles or telling us that the earth warms. It also cools.

 

[Hal9000_]

the earth warms. It also cools.

True. Such as mass extinction events like supermassive volcano eruptions or meteor impacts.

It's all part of the natural cycle. Why should we worry about the survival of humanity?



https://i.pinimg.com/236x/fd/a8/07/fda8073c8bfc59368e75ea23471b9864.jpg

 

[phrodeau]

Get rid of non essentials. Drain the swamp.

Efficiency. Will be interesting to see that the government can function without biologists studying moth breeding cycles or telling us that the earth warms. It also cools.

So you already know how moth breeding cycles will be affected when a swamp gets drained?

 

[toeskr]

True. Such as mass extinction events like supermassive volcano eruptions or meteor impacts.

It's all part of the natural cycle. Why should we worry about the survival of humanity?



https://i.pinimg.com/236x/fd/a8/07/fda8073c8bfc59368e75ea23471b9864.jpg

Sounds like you worry about it more than I.

Progs such as yourself will cum all over themselves with the extinction of humans.

The earth will do what it does. Don't lose sleep over it.

 

[Hal9000_]

Sounds like you worry about it more than I.

Progs such as yourself will cum all over themselves with the extinction of humans.

The earth will do what it does. Don't lose sleep over it.

I don't see how searching for understanding of the Earth, Nature, and the Universe makes me a "prog", or makes me "lose sleep".

I guess using your logic we should close all government weather radars and satellites, warning systems, etc, and just "let earth do what it does".

 

[toeskr]

I don't see how searching for understanding of the Earth, Nature, and the Universe makes me a "prog", or makes me "lose sleep".

I guess using your logic we should close all government weather radars and satellites, warning systems, etc, and just "let earth do what it does".

But you don't search. You already have all the facts you need. Fed to you.

Understanding the earth means it heats, it cools, it kills off a great deal of parasites and spares a few.

In the mean time, people like you want to tell other people how to live and what to do. If that doesn't work, you want the government to do it.

We are only here as a little blip in time. Why would you want to play scared and be like the sheep that you are?

Grow a brain.

 

[Hal9000_]

Stop lights? Government control!

Fire departments? COWARDS WAY OUT!

Schools? Grow a brain!

NASA? Progressive gumbledegook!

 

[toeskr]

Stop lights? Government control!

Fire departments? COWARDS WAY OUT!

Schools? Grow a brain!

NASA? Progressive gumbledegook!

Go back to post #20. Sounds like you worry about it more than I. But by damn, if we could only get government to regulate us into everlasting life and self perpetuation. Damn those cosmic events and the earth doing what it does.

Did your mother have any children that lived?

 

[Hal9000_]

Go suck your toe.