White House warns shutdown could carry on after emergency declaration

[Kirkrapine]

So you won't be sorry that they'll suffer, too, right?

Yes, we're sorry that they'll suffer too. But Trump isn't.

 

[Kirkrapine]

wait what? hes petty Pelosi & her court jester chucky & numerous others dems. ALL voted for more border sec. Now that trump wants to ACTUALLY DO IT Hes petty give me a break their the petty ones.

They voted for border security in very different, and more effectual, forms.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They're better than you because public service means something to them. It obviously never meant anything to you.

If that were true then it shouldn't matter that their pay is being delayed...just like it didn't matter to me or the fact that my contract was extended almost a year without asking.

Why stop? He already owns the longest shutdown in history. He wants to set a record that can never be beat. Small dicked guys are like that

It would just be a loss.....

They say the same thing about guys with money, houses and cars.

Keep on hatin' haters!!

 

[Luk]

Please do the right thing for once and kill yourself.

No need for that. He's so useless and insignificant that his death would only bring honor to a moron.

 

[Oblimo]

Oh, wanted to give you dap for the logomachy label for homeslice a while back. I enjoy learning new or obscure words and that one hit it smack dab on the head there.

It's a glorious word, isn't it? I must confess, though, that I had learned of the word myself that very day from the Merriam Webster Dictionary's blog and rushed over to the General Board to find a way to use it.

 

[Oblimo]

Well, assuming that the approximate national average of D vs R voter (remember "H won the popular vote") is about 55% vs 45%, then approximately 45% of those gov employees on furlough right now should be making you "laugh with glee"

Get on with the chuckles sister; laugh at their plight for having voted for Trump.

So, you don't believe your glorious leader when he says that Federal emplyees are all (which we must translate to "almost all") Democrats?

 

[Oblimo]

What need?

Picking the most obvious out of a hat:

The Coast Guard.

You know, the guys and gals who fight to keep drugs, terrorists, and criminals pouring into our country.

 

[Luk]

Picking the most obvious out of a hat:

The Coast Guard.

You know, the guys and gals who fight to keep drugs, terrorists, and criminals pouring into our country.

Nonessential! ​

 

[Oblimo]

In 2021 when Climate Change and Gun Deaths are declared "emergencies" it will balance out.

Bingo.

My favorite former Republican Rick Wilson had a glorious rant about it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Picking the most obvious out of a hat:

The Coast Guard.

You know, the guys and gals who fight to keep drugs, terrorists, and criminals pouring into our country.

Yea national security is essential......if only (D)'s could get that message, not holding my breath though!!

But the military isn't cut off right now and that massively RW, pro- security group of people who still mostly support Trump and you lefties generally detest with a white hot searing hatred.....are not the non-essential government workers who KO is crying for and claiming we desperately NEED.

 

[Oblimo]

Nonessential! ​

And then there's these guys. There may not be a crisis at the US-Mexico border now, but if the Border Patrol goes without funding for some time, there sure as shit will be.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And then there's these guys. There may not be a crisis at the US-Mexico border now, but if the Border Patrol goes without funding for some time, there sure as shit will be.

Sounds like Pelosi and the House should fund them then hua??

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Says the guy who "never defends Trump."

If you agree that the only solution to "national security" is building a wall, then you're defending and agreeing with Trump.

Dems want "national security" of the 21st, not 10th, century

Yea national security is essential......if only (D)'s could get that message, not holding my breath though!!

But the military isn't cut off right now and that massively RW, pro- security group of people who still mostly support Trump and you lefties generally detest with a white hot searing hatred.....are not the non-essential government workers who KO is crying for and claiming we desperately NEED.

 

[Oblimo]

But the military isn't cut off right now and that massively RW, pro- security group of people who still mostly support Trump and you lefties generally detest with a white hot searing hatred.....are not the non-essential government workers who KO is crying for and claiming we desperately NEED.

You might want to research about how the Cost Guard is funded.

See, the military gets its funding from The Department of Defense.

The Coast Guard is part of Homeland Security. A large swath of the CG has been furloughed, the rest are working without pay.

Did you miss all the articles about CG families being told to hold garage/bake sales, and start side hacks?

 

[Oblimo]

Sounds like Pelosi and the House should fund them then hua??

They've passed bills to do so if you were paying attention.

McConnell won't bring them to a vote because he's afraid that Trump's inevitable veto would be overridden.

Your Trumpolitan bias is showing.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You might want to research about how the Cost Guard is funded.

See, the military gets its funding from The Department of Defense.

The Coast Guard is part of Homeland Security. A large swath of the CG has been furloughed, the rest are working without pay.

Did you miss all the articles about CG families being told to hold garage/bake sales, and start side hacks?

I always told them they weren't actually military LOL

So get the fucking Navy off their ass, or just shit can the guard and just make them USN...no biggie.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

They are. (?)

The only thing they're saying NO to is the Wall. Or are you repeating Trump's talking points, ie defending him?

Sounds like Pelosi and the House should fund them then hua??

 

[BotanyBoy]

They've passed bills to do so if you were paying attention.

Not any that the Senate or WH is interested in....so kinda just jerking their own dicks aren't they?

Let me rephrase.....

Sounds like Pelosi and the (D)'s better stop with the virtue signaling bullshit and work with either Mitch or Donnie.

McConnell won't bring them to a vote because he's afraid that Trump's inevitable veto would be overridden.

Your Trumpolitan bias is showing.

It's not Trumpolitan bias....it's a matter of the situation, The House is not the GOD Chamber that dispenses commandments for the Senate/WH to back and execute.

The Senate and WH are putting the House in check....it has to go write up something everyone can work with, that's it's job.

 

[HisArpy]

Please do the right thing for once and kill yourself.

Please stop with the "suicide is your best option" crap. As a lawyer, you should KNOW the legal liability that comes with such cyber bullying. You should also be aware that you cannot tell if someone on the internet is unstable enough to eventually do what you told them to do.

You know what - fuck it, it's your life. If you want to run the risk of it going down the tubes because you can't control yourself on the internet, who am I to tell you otherwise.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Says the guy who "never defends Trump."

Where have I defended Trump?

Oh yea...you still can't quote it.

Just yesterday I said this was about the least graceful way to go about doing this and that he was a bull in a China cabinet.

Your TDS has you hallucinating.

If you agree that the only solution to "national security" is building a wall, then you're defending and agreeing with Trump.

Good thing I don't. My personal border security ideas don't require any walls...just a standard chain link yard fence about 3 or 4 foot tall.

Dems want "national security" of the 21st, not 10th, century

No the fuck they don't....LOL they want to abolish ICE, borders and have sanctuary cities that treat illegals better than their tax paying residence.

Diversity is their strength....unless you're a white guy not toeing the PC narrative, then you're a fucking Nazi who should be taken out!! LOL

They are. (?)

Yes....that's part of being a minority with only one chamber of congress, you have to work with the Senate and or WH, or you get NOTHING.

The only thing they're saying NO to is the Wall.

Which BP said they need and Trump and Mitch are making a point to provide.

Or are you repeating Trump's talking points, ie defending him?

It's not a Trump talking point it's the reality of the situation.

The (D)'s are playing an uphill game of chicken on 2 fronts.

They can either fund BP, or die on their beloved "No borders!! No Walls!! Sanctuary for all!!" hill.....

Though I think AntiFa was more honest when they said "No borders!! No Wall!! No USA at all!!' the (D)'s just aren't honest enough to officially own that one.

 

[HisArpy]

So, you don't believe your glorious leader when he says that Federal emplyees are all (which we must translate to "almost all") Democrats?

I just did a basic correlation between voter percentages and the general government employee population after assuming that the general voting population is no different than the government employee population when it comes to political voting patterns.

Whether I'm right or wrong is irrelevant since the point was to ask if CF was also laughing at the same time she was "weeping" over the plight of all those poor gov employees.

Thus, my statement has nothing to do with whether Trump says all Federal emplyees (sic) are Democrats or not.

 

[Oblimo]

Thus, my statement has nothing to do with whether Trump says all Federal emplyees (sic) are Democrats or not.

So noted.

So, what is your opinion on Trump saying that all Federal emplyees are Democrats? Did he actually say that in the first place? If so, what is your take on the truth-value of the statement?

 

[HisArpy]

So noted.

So, what is your opinion on Trump saying that all Federal emplyees are Democrats? Did he actually say that in the first place? If so, what is your take on the truth-value of the statement?

I have no opinion.
I don't know.
I don't care.

 

[Oblimo]

I have no opinion.
I don't know.
I don't care.

But, the emplyees! Won't someone PLEASE think of the emplyees!

 

[butters]

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How is this okay?

How is holding hundreds of thousands of families hostage with their pay okay? Delaying tax refunds? Parks continued unprotected, unserviced. Garbage not picked up. Payments for rent assistance, food assistance.

This is a petty petty man.

it's not

it's taking these people as hostages, in effect. he seems to be counting that the more liberal-minded will care more about the effects HIS shutdown are causing and so come to his table and give him what he wants so these families can get paid and working again. it 's just he doesn't give a shit about who's suffering, so long as it's not him.

McConnell shares a lot of the responsibility in this issue. An appropriations bill has already passed the house and only requires passage through the Senate. McConnell will not put it to a vote because he says the President will veto it.

So what? Congress is supposed to be a co-equal third of the US government yet this gutless man defers to the White House. Essentially he is asking for the President's permission before he will even send him a bill. In the recent past the Congress frequently expressed its own views it did not defer like a lap dog to the White house.

If McConnel put this to a vote in the Senate and it got through Trump would be on his own. If it did not get through then Trump and the GOP in the Senate would be clearly the Presidents yes men. However, by refusing to put the matter to a vote at all McConnell is clearly thwarting the intent of the Founding Fathers by making the legislature subject to the whims of the President.

this.

No. The senate voted for a comprehensive set of reforms in the 2013 bill. The Republicans in the house prevented a vote, because it would have passed and Obama would have signed it. The idiots in the FreeDum Caucus held Ryan hostage over it and he was too weak to bring the vote to the floor.

More proof that the Democrats are the only ones serious about border security and the Repubs want the issue not a solution.

Bring that bill back up, update it for 2019 technology and get it done. Why not? Because now that it will get through the House the GOP will block it in the senate. Despite the fact it had $46 billion for the border.

See how it is the Republicans and not the Democrats that are petty and disingenuous on this issue?

this

Q: how is one man, alone, allowed to hold the country to ransom?
A: with the permission of others

They voted for border security in very different, and more effectual, forms.

yes, yes they did. and just before xmas, if i recall rightly... a bill that passed but the president refused to sign it because it didn't allow him to build his wall